I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

[HollyBibel]

Instead, I see them attacking newbies, being racist to other countries, and many more arguments that show that you guys are not nice.

Please, prove to me why this God is real, and none of any other gods in other religions are. If you can prove that God is real without going off-topic or attacking me, i'll head to my nearest church and get baptised. Also if you write that 'this is not a discussion forum' argument that I've seen in so many other topics, it seems it is the only valid argument that can counter my questions.

Please do not use illogical and just plain stupid arguments like 'have faith' and 'the bible is real because god himself wrote it' because you have no evidence to back that up, and if you do have evidence make it not a verse from the bible.

All you have to do is answer my questions of why god is real.

1. Can you see any incredible feats mentioned in the bible (Jesus turning water into wine, etc) happening in our modern society?

2. If god is, what started god in the first place?

3. I remember reading somewhere in the bible that God planned everything to be and happen exactly it has happened so far. So that means god planned other religions, honest people (including christians) to die, and satan himself to exist?

4. Lets say you prayed to god, to have $1000 within the next hour, there are three possibilities:

1. you randomly find $1000 on the street
2. god rejects you and instead summons a robber to steal all of your money
3. your prayer doesnt get answered

Wouldn't the same thing happened if you prayed to anything, even a milk carton?

Can you also do one extra favour for me after you made decent, logical arguments and go to this site:

www.whywontgodhealamputees.com

And then after reading why god won't heal amputees, write to me another argument how god is real.

[tomasespensen]

Re: I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

1. Can you see any incredible feats mentioned in the bible (Jesus turning water into wine, etc) happening in our modern society?

Do you accept that a man fall 12000Ft and surwieve?

2. If god is, what started god in the first place?

God is eternal, therefore he alwayes excisted

3. I remember reading somewhere in the bible that God planned everything to be and happen exactly it has happened so far. So that means god planned other religions, honest people (including christians) to die, and satan himself to exist?

Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

I myself believe in Satan, and i put my money on him, however i believe in the Bible and accept that Satan was created by God.

4. Lets say you prayed to god, to have $1000 within the next hour, there are three possibilities:

1. you randomly find $1000 on the street
2. god rejects you and instead summons a robber to steal all of your money
3. your prayer doesnt get answered

Wouldn't the same thing happened if you prayed to anything, even a milk carton?

Here 1 is wrong, if you pray to find 1000 dollars, and find them then it is not random, if you pray to a milk carton, then it would be random.

2: God summons a Robber..... well that would prove for you that God excists and he punsih you for beeing a idoliser (praying to milk?)

3. Well you would never know, if this is to non excistant God or becourse you was doing bad?

Can you also do one extra favour for me after you made decent, logical arguments and go to this site:

www.whywontgodhealamputees.com

And then after reading why god won't heal amputees, write to me another argument how god is real.

[HollyBibel]

Re: I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

Nope, i do not accept that a man falls 12000Ft and survived with god's help anyway. He's a skydiver, so he obviously has experience in falling. He has the equipment to help him do so.

"God is eternal, therefore he always existed" is what I mean about a plain stupid argument. Where's your proof that god is eternal? And if he is, what did he do before 'he created Adam and Eve'? Did he just sit there doing nothing? And what did he do before that? And before that? It keeps on going.

So if you accept that satan was created by god, you accept the fact that god hates satan, so god hates something he created himself, and all the christians hate satan which means christians hate something that god created, which, for christians, would be an offense to god.

How is 1 wrong? I'm saying that the same results would happen if you prayed to a milk carton or god.

For 2, the same thing would happen if you prayed to a milk carton.

I can't even understand you on your argument on my third possibility.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

***look at me, i'm an attention whore, i'm an attention whore, wheeeeeee!!! ***

Looks like someone just started a philosophy course! Or did someone just fail a theology course?



At any rate: this is the Introduction Forum. From right above your OP, if you weren't too blinded by poutrage to read it:

Attention Unsaved Trash: This the ONLY subforum you can start threads in. Here is where you introduce yourself. Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

Good luck!

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[tomasespensen]

Re: I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

Nope, i do not accept that a man falls 12000Ft and survived with god's help anyway. He's a skydiver, so he obviously has experience in falling. He has the equipment to help him do so.

So you claim a person has lerned to fall 12000 feet?

"God is eternal, therefore he always existed" is what I mean about a plain stupid argument. Where's your proof that god is eternal? And if he is, what did he do before 'he created Adam and Eve'? Did he just sit there doing nothing? And what did he do before that? And before that? It keeps on going.

Proof hes not?

So if you accept that satan was created by god, you accept the fact that god hates satan, so god hates something he created himself, and all the christians hate satan which means christians hate something that god created, which, for christians, would be an offense to god.

Yes, God created Satan, and God hates Satan, however Satan is a tool of God to punish Sinners (so he have a pupose) I just belive that i wont be punished, becourse i like satan, and therefore he wont punish me.

How is 1 wrong? I'm saying that the same results would happen if you prayed to a milk carton or god.

You said RANDOMLY, if u pray to milk its random, if you pray to God, its NOT Random..... If i ask YOU for 100 dollars, then you can say yes or no, BUT here you do take position, and i will have greater chance of getting them, compared to go out on the streets and randomly find 100 dollars

For 2, the same thing would happen if you prayed to a milk carton.

No becourse a Milk carton canot summon a robber, God can

I can't even understand you on your argument on my third possibility.

that your prayers dont get answered dosent mean that they wasent heard, just that you might not deserve a answer

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

P.S. Do you know that "nice" is not mentioned at all in the Bible?

I do!

[HollyBibel]

Re: I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

Looks like someone just started a philosophy course! Or did someone just fail a theology course?



At any rate: this is the Introduction Forum. From right above your OP, if you weren't too blinded by poutrage to read it:



Good luck!

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

Well, more of these replys that don't answer my questions and just attack me. Simply to put it: You can't answer these questions logically without contradicting or ignoring your beliefs.

[tomasespensen]

Re: I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

Well, more of these replys that don't answer my questions and just attack me. Simply to put it: You can't answer these questions logically without contradicting or ignoring your beliefs.

Can you? Why will people have prove that what the Bible say is true? Can you prove that 1 single word in the Bible is not true?

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

Well, more of these replys that don't answer my questions and just attack me. Simply to put it: You can't answer these questions logically without contradicting or ignoring your beliefs.

I haven't attacked you. I don't even KNOW you.

And that gets back to the crux of the problem: you haven't properly INTRODUCED yourself. I guarantee that things will go much more smoothly once we get to know a little more about you.

You can't simply storm into here like a petulant child and start demanding answers, particularly when the answers have been given hundreds (thousands?) of times already.

Act like an adult and you will be treated like one. Act like a child, and the red boxes over to the right of your name will continue to multiply.

(1 Corinthians 13:11) "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[HollyBibel]

Re: I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

By the way; I did read it. I'm just not a person who will lie just to get into different parts of the forum where I can debate, and then to be banned for my 'satanic comments and lies', which is just an excuse to not answer my questions.

That also brings me to this, tomasespensen:
So Satan is a tool of God to punish sinners. After reading alot of topics where there are reasonable arguments like mine, alot of people come up with something like this:

'This person is coming to us with Satan's lies and deceit! Go back to hell you foolish one, and praise the almighty Jesus Christ!'

So they're thinking that the person is a minion of Satan, and based on what you said, you're saying that, that person is used by Satan, as a tool of God, to punish a 'True Christian™'?



So, so many contradictions and excuses.

[HollyBibel]

Re: I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

I haven't attacked you. I don't even KNOW you.

And that gets back to the crux of the problem: you haven't properly INTRODUCED yourself. I guarantee that things will go much more smoothly once we get to know a little more about you.

You can't simply storm into here like a petulant child and start demanding answers, particularly when the answers have been given hundreds (thousands?) of times already.

Act like an adult and you will be treated like one. Act like a child, and the red boxes over to the right of your name will continue to multiply.

(1 Corinthians 13:11) "When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things."



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

I don't plan to introduce myself unless my questions are answered, because other people who actually have introduced themselves just to debate here sooner or later get them banned.

So let's have a deal: I'll introduce myself if you can answer my questions logically and reasonably, recommended that you provide evidence not from the bible to back you up. No delays please.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

By the way; I did read it. I'm just not a person who will lie just to get into different parts of the forum where I can debate, and then to be banned for my 'satanic comments and lies', which is just an excuse to not answer my questions.

That also brings me to this, tomasespensen:
So Satan is a tool of God to punish sinners. After reading alot of topics where there are reasonable arguments like mine, alot of people come up with something like this:

'This person is coming to us with Satan's lies and deceit! Go back to hell you foolish one, and praise the almighty Jesus Christ!'

So they're thinking that the person is a minion of Satan, and based on what you said, you're saying that, that person is used by Satan, as a tool of God, to punish a 'True Christian™'?



So, so many contradictions and excuses.

Where did anyone ask you to lie?

Where did anyone encourage debate?



Please understand that not all of the posts on here are by True Christians(tm). We do everything in our power to make sure that all sides of an issue are presented, but there are rules of decorum that Jesus-haters and negros and gametards and liberals find impossible to conform to.

If you feel that you cannot politely discuss the absolute glory and brilliance of Our Lord Jesus Christ in a respectful and adoring manner, perhaps this is not the correct website for you.

(Amos 3:3) "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[HollyBibel]

Re: I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

Where did anyone ask you to lie?

Where did anyone encourage debate?



Please understand that not all of the posts on here are by True Christians™. We do everything in our power to make sure that all sides of an issue are presented, but there are rules of decorum that Jesus-haters and negros and gametards and liberals find impossible to conform to.

If you feel that you cannot politely discuss the absolute glory and brilliance of Our Lord Jesus Christ in a respectful and adoring manner, perhaps this is not the correct website for you.

(Amos 3:3) "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

Since when have I not been polite? I havn't cussed, or anything closed to cussing. I had just asked nicely if you could answer my questions besides delaying and avoiding them.

By 'all sides of an issue', you mean the people who gives proper reason why Jesus and God isn't real. By 'do everything in our power', you mean giving them red bars, disrespectful tags (unsaved trash, etc) and bans for what they're doing.

After reading alot of the threads in this forum, I can see that the community (the True Christian community) are a bunch of biased people who refuse to look on the other side.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

Since when have I not been polite? I havn't cussed, or anything closed to cussing. I had just asked nicely if you could answer my questions besides delaying and avoiding them.

By 'all sides of an issue', you mean the people who gives proper reason why Jesus and God isn't real. By 'do everything in our power', you mean giving them red bars, disrespectful tags (unsaved trash, etc) and bans for what they're doing.

After reading alot of the threads in this forum, I can see that the community (the True Christian community) are a bunch of biased people who refuse to look on the other side.

One last try: will you please introduce yourself properly so that we can greet you properly? Please think about your next reply.

Sincerely,

Zech

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: I thought Christians were ment to be nice?

Well, more of these replys that don't answer my questions and just attack me. Simply to put it: You can't answer these questions logically without contradicting or ignoring your beliefs.

Are you so self absorbed that you can't see that people attacking your silly assertions because they are, well, silly, isn't a personal attack?

There is no contradiction in the Bible, it is the perfect, inerrant word of God.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

How can this be true if the Bible were a mish mash of contradictory nonsense as you blindly assert without truly having read it.