[Ashton]

Re: Hello, My Fellow God Lovers

It's like this: we are here to praise the lord Jesus Christ for temporarily dying to save us from sin.

Why are you here? Read this before you make an even bigger fool of yourself by shoving your unsubstantiated unsaved opinions down our throats.

1.) I am here because i believe in Jesus and while i was browsing this site, I felt compelled to join.

2.) In whose eyes am i making a fool of myself? Some could argue your attacks on my beliefs as being embarrassing.

also: Matthew 7:1

3.) On that note, how can you deem me or anyone else for that matter as being "unsaved?" You are not St Peter, you can't turn me away at the pearly gates. No mortal can. Get off your high horse and come back to earth, because before you realize it, you shall be face to face with Lucifer himself.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Hello, My Fellow God Lovers

One must read more than one simple translation if he is to fully appreciate the word of god. A narrow mind is one that gets trapped in darkness.

A narrow mind is ALL ABOUT God and His Word: "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:" (Matt 7:13)

God's way is narrow--so narrow that most will fall out of it and will be lost in hell.

You have been rebuked in the name of the Lord. We expect an apology.

Pastor Ed

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello, My Fellow God Lovers

1.) I am here because i believe in Jesus and while i was browsing this site, I felt compelled to join.

2.) In whose eyes am i making a fool of myself? Some could argue your attacks on my beliefs as being embarrassing.

also: Matthew 7:1

3.) On that note, how can you deem me or anyone else for that matter as being "unsaved?" You are not St Peter, you can't turn me away at the pearly gates. No mortal can. Get off your high horse and come back to earth, because before you realize it, you shall be face to face with Lucifer himself.

You really didn't read it, did you.

How DARE you tell me I'm going to Hell!

Try again. We have addressed every single point you have ineptly tried to make before a hundred times a hundred times. Now if you have nothing more to say than to cherry pick and your own opinion I can't see us getting much further and I can't see the point in my vainly repeating a Pastor's words.

[Ashton]

Re: Hello, My Fellow God Lovers

A narrow mind is ALL ABOUT God and His Word: "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:" (Matt 7:13)

God's way is narrow--so narrow that most will fall out of it and will be lost in hell.

You have been rebuked in the name of the Lord. We expect an apology.

Pastor Ed

The word also says to "make sure of all things." (1 Thessalonians 5:21)
I believe that is a suitable argument against being narrow in mind.

I do believe in a narrow faith, just not in a narrow mind.

After all,
Anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps. (Proverbs 14:15)

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello, My Fellow God Lovers

The word also says to "make sure of all things." (1 Thessalonians 5:21)
I believe that is a suitable argument against being narrow in mind.

I do believe in a narrow faith, just not in a narrow mind.

After all,
Anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps. (Proverbs 14:15)

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

Try reading the whole Bible instead of picking bits off web sites that fit your narrow views.

1 Thessalonians 1:3 Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

2 Thessalonians 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:

Keep trying - read the whole Bible - even the bits that make you feel uneasy because they offend your preconceived and narrow notions of who God is.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Hello, My Fellow God Lovers

The word also says to "make sure of all things." (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

I believe that is a suitable argument against being narrow in mind.

Oh, little man thinks he can argue.

We prove all things by flipping open the Bible, reading its words, and immediately stopping thinking about it. We draw only the conclusions given to us of God in a book man wrote which was said to have come from God. End of story. We won't entertain any other answers.

I do believe in a narrow faith, just not in a narrow mind.

After all,
Anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps. (Proverbs 14:15)

The mind is useless. People use their brains to bypass God and embrace evolution and the sciences, which make God angry (I Timothy 6:20-21). It would be better if we never had brains.

True Christians™ don't use their brains. They use their souls to understand the Word and thus, have faith and salvation therefrom.

You types who follow "openness" and "experiences" are homosexuals. Your wishy-washy "evidences" will make you among the first to sit on the devil's spiked seat invasion chair.

Pastor Ed

[Ashton]

Re: Hello, My Fellow God Lovers

Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

Try reading the whole Bible instead of picking bits off web sites that fit your narrow views.

1 Thessalonians 1:3 Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;

2 Thessalonians 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:

Keep trying - read the whole Bible - even the bits that make you feel uneasy because they offend your preconceived and narrow notions of who God is.

I know my lord and savior. It is you I do not know, but as hard as it might be for you to believe, i am hearing you out. I'm not just searching the net for some clever way to undermine your view. You have your way of seeing the same words that I see. You also have your own way of picking and choosing what words have more meaning. I can respect your opinions. It is when you try to tell me that what i am saying is wrong, that I feel i have to defend myself. In reality, I shouldn't have to. It is there. Those words mean what they mean, as do the words you point out to me. I know that they are there. To you, it may just be a tool for winning an argument, but for me these words are the basis for the way every single person should live. As you pointed out, I was being narrow and stating my opinion. But so were you.

I love God, and He loves each and every one of us. So I guess I have to say I'm sorry for any frustration I caused you, but I do not take back a single word that I have typed out.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello, My Fellow God Lovers

I know my lord and savior. It is you I do not know, but as hard as it might be for you to believe, i am hearing you out. I'm not just searching the net for some clever way to undermine your view. You have your way of seeing the same words that I see. You also have your own way of picking and choosing what words have more meaning. I can respect your opinions. It is when you try to tell me that what i am saying is wrong, that I feel i have to defend myself. In reality, I shouldn't have to. It is there. Those words mean what they mean, as do the words you point out to me. I know that they are there. To you, it may just be a tool for winning an argument, but for me these words are the basis for the way every single person should live. As you pointed out, I was being narrow and stating my opinion. But so were you.

I love God, and He loves each and every one of us. So I guess I have to say I'm sorry for any frustration I caused you, but I do not take back a single word that I have typed out.

Oh dear! Another one who has made God up inside his own head. How can you expect us to agree with this fake God of your thoughts? How can we possibly know this God of your head? It is your thoughts and you are projecting your desires and calling them God.

Proverbs 18:2 A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself.

Why would God warn you against doing precisely what you are doing?

We, however, do not make God up, we follow the real God of the Bible who doesn't always agree with us and tells us to do things that are often against our frail thoughts full of sinful urges. How do you even know God is real without the Bible as evidence of His deeds and will?

[Ashton]

Re: Hello, My Fellow God Lovers

Oh, little man thinks he can argue.

Oh hello, Pastor. I'm glad that someone of your stature thinks of me so highly as to consider me a man. Thank you, I appreciate that. For some reason I was under the impression that you thought yourself better than me. I'm glad that I was wrong.

True Christians™ don't use their brains. They use their souls to understand the Word and thus, have faith and salvation therefrom.

God gave us a gift. He gave Man the intelligence to make possible the luscious lifestyle that you probably take for granted. Without this intelligence, America would have never came to be. Do you hate America? The brain was something that God gave us. I'm not going to question it.

You types who follow "openness" and "experiences" are homosexuals. Your wishy-washy "evidences" will make you among the first to sit on the devil's spiked seat invasion chair.

My dear Pastor, I don't know if you've heard, but following ones experiences and having an open mind is not the equivalent of someone enjoying the sexual company of someone who shares his gender. In case that was too wordy; listening to other people's opinions doesn't make you gay.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello, My Fellow God Lovers

Oh hello, Pastor. I'm glad that someone of your stature thinks of me so highly as to consider me a man. Thank you, I appreciate that. For some reason I was under the impression that you thought yourself better than me. I'm glad that I was wrong.





God gave us a gift. He gave Man the intelligence to make possible the luscious lifestyle that you probably take for granted. Without this intelligence, America would have never came to be. Do you hate America? The brain was something that God gave us. I'm not going to question it.




My dear Pastor, I don't know if you've heard, but following ones experiences and having an open mind is not the equivalent of someone enjoying the sexual company of someone who shares his gender. In case that was too wordy; listening to other people's opinions doesn't make you gay.

All this opinion. you are clearly a man of great thinking but little listening.

God tells us how to think but you do not listen.

Matthew 7:21-23
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

[Ashton]

Re: Hello, My Fellow God Lovers

All this opinion. you are clearly a man of great thinking but little listening.

God tells us how to think but you do not listen.
Matthew 7:21-23
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Please explain how this passage tells me how to think.

[Redeemed Papist]

Please explain how this passage tells me how to think.

Are you following God's commandments?

Not the thoughts and opinions in your head, His actual commandments? Where would you find those commandments?

If you had the whole scripture burning like a flame within you you would understand the rebuke.
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[Ashton]

Re: Hello, My Fellow God Lovers

Are you following God's commandments?

Not the thoughts and opinions in your head, His actual commandments? Where would you find those commandments?

If you had the whole scripture burning like a flame within you you would understand the rebuke.
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Let's find out:


Thou shalt have no other gods before ME.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments

Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Ex 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Ex 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Ex 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee

Thou shalt not kill.

Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Thou shalt not steal.

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's


In bold are commandments that I have never broken

In italics are those that I have.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello, My Fellow God Lovers

Let's find out:


Thou shalt have no other gods before ME.

In bold are commandments that I have never broken

And yet here you are telling us that God in the Bible is a narrow God and you know better. You're not actually following God but a fake God of your own imagining.

I love God, and He loves each and every one of us. So I guess I have to say I'm sorry for any frustration I caused you, but I do not take back a single word that I have typed out.

Revelation 20:11-15
11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Seems to me you just follow His word when it suits you and make your own rules up when it doesn't.

Reconcile those two opposing views. Once of them is your unsubstantiated opinion - the other is the Word of our Lord.

I wonder which we should respect.

[Ashton]

Re: Hello, My Fellow God Lovers

And yet here you are telling us that God in the Bible is a narrow God and you know better. You're not actually following God but a fake God of your own imagining.

I never called God narrow, I was speaking out against narrow mindedness. Do not try to pick apart my faith.

Revelation 20:11-15
11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Seems to me you just follow His word when it suits you and make your own rules up when it doesn't.

Reconcile those two opposing views. Once of them is your unsubstantiated opinion - the other is the Word of our Lord.

I wonder which we should respect.

A passage from revelation?
That's your ammunition?

You're resorting to the end of the world to prove to me that God does not love all of His children. It seems to me that you only acknowledge the righteous, condemning, fearsome side of our Lord. He gave His only son for us. What more of an expression of love do you need?