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  • #16
    Re: Pastor Ezekiel

    Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
    Nice job highlighting a quote. You're not receiving this from the unsaved, you're receiving this from the unfairly chastised. I had imagined coming here to ask my mature question was actually acceptable, however I was met with nothing more than hostility and insults for asking a question.
    Um...

    Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
    Being someone who's read the bible over and over again, and yet still is agnostic,
    In what sense have you been washed in His Blood? Its pretty clear to anyone who actually has received Salvation through Sanctification of the Spirit that you are a hellbound sinner, following after your own lusts and vile affections.

    It's not to late for you to come to Christ. He died for your sins. It's the least you could do. But instead, you come to persecute a community of His followers. It's disgraceful.

    Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
    Give me the version you want me to quote, and I'll go ahead and quote it for you. Currently, I quoted the NIV version, however the KJV version holds just the same validity(although the wording is different and it focuses on Jesus instead of God).
    I recommend downloading a copy from here, printing It out and binding it yourself. There are too many heathens in the secular publishing world, and satan uses them to distort God's Word. This is a trustworthy download, as the information on the top page will inform you.
    II Thessalonians 1:7-9
    And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
    In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
    Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



    The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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    • #17
      Re: Pastor Ezekiel

      Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
      God's word has not offended me, nor has god himself. Your insults and idiocy have, however. You. Nearly all of you have been offensive, profane, or vulgar in one way or another on one post or another(I spent quite a bit of time reading all of your posts and giving them consideration).

      Give me the version you want me to quote, and I'll go ahead and quote it for you. Currently, I quoted the NIV version, however the KJV version holds just the same validity(although the wording is different and it focuses on Jesus instead of God).
      So it doesn't offend you when JESUS says in Luke 19:27 that He intends to see all who oppose Him slaughtered and lying dead in the dirt?

      So why would it offend you if we, His humble servants, are busily going about our duty to save people from being slaughtered by an angry CHRIST?

      We care very much about the perverted homosexuals, the murderers, witches, liars, thieves and Sabbath breakers.

      All we want is to see them recant and throw themselves at the feet of JESUS, begging Him for mercy and forgiveness, that they may be spared from an outburst of GOD's righteous violence!

      We use the KJV only, by the way.
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      • #18
        Re: Pastor Ezekiel

        Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
        Because you haven't attempted to save my soul, you've only insulted me for asking simple questions. Had you maturely answered my questions without omitting vast portions of what I had said, it may have been completely possible to push me closer to accepting your views. However, all I was met with was hostility and insults. Why wouldn't I be just as insulting? (Luke 6:31)


        To your question about Jesus teaching tolerance(i don't know how much more clear this could honestly get):
        Mark 9:38-41

        38 “Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.”
        39 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40 for whoever is not against us is for us. 41 Truly I tell you, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah will certainly not lose their reward.
        Says nothing about tolerance. Says to encourage people who promote Jesus' teaching and who act in his name. That's why you pray in Jesus' name. John 14:13-14.

        I do not see in your passage where Jesus says "just forget about the fornicators and the sinners." To the contrary. We are supposed to preach to the sinners. Proverbs 24:11-12, as repeated by Jesus in Mark 16:15.
        "Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).

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        • #19
          Re: Pastor Ezekiel

          Originally posted by Noah Sole View Post
          More hypocrisy!! You complain about us and do the exact same thing yourself. In your arrogance you did not turn the other cheek!!!

          Matthew 5:39
          But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

          All the best
          Luke 6:31

          King James Version (KJV)

          31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.



          Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
          Such foul language, son. If you have read the Bible over and over, you would know the following.

          Colossians 3:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
          After meeting you people, I couldn't care less about the bible. Don't quote me irrelevant bullshit.

          Do you have any specifics or more yappity yap, yap, yappity? Are you going to bark all night or are you going to quote the Bible, Mr. Knows-it-all?



          How did I know?

          You are telling us how intolerant we are while you show up to our house in the middle of the night to burn things on the lawn. In other words, it's okay when you are intolerant. You know more about what God wants than a group of biblical experts.

          Again, quit telling us what the Bible says and show me where Jesus says anything about tolerance for other beliefs. I'll wait.



          You call our Pastor trash and then you whine about being labelled unsaved trash. Once again, as predicted.



          And now we complete this episode of hypocrisy theater. I have been your host Levi Jones.
          You're the epitome of idiotic.
          Perhaps I should review this slowly for you:

          I'm not the one being intolerant. I was the one asking a simple question that opposed your viewpoints, and I was chastised and mocked for it. That's the epitome of intolerance; when you don't even answer the question, just mock them for asking it. I've not claimed to know anything more than any of you.

          You have been my host, Idiot Jones.


          Originally posted by Bob4God View Post
          This is a false version of the Bible. We use the KJV here.

          Still, I don't see how these verses can be used to say JESUS taught tolerance, especially tolerance towards sin.

          He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth. - Luke 11:23

          But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. - Luke 19:27

          If ye love me, keep my commandments. - John 14:15
          The KJV version holds the same truth. To ignore this as the word of God goes against YOUR beliefs. To say that it holds no validity, or that it doesn't promote religious tolerance is heresy.

          Originally posted by Faith_Machine View Post
          Dear Horrible Person,

          I am not ashamed to admit I wept when I read the hurtful, untrue things you've posted about Pastor Ezekiel.

          Why would you say such cruel things?

          I'm adding you to my prayer list!
          I posted nothing about Pastor Ezekiel other than the truth. He's fearful of having anyone contact him. Why, I still beg the question of. I say such cruel things because your entire community, including Pastor Ezekiel specifically are offensive, rude, and simply vulgar to those with any outside though; be it benign or malignant.

          Originally posted by Jedediah View Post
          For starters, you could be more clear by using Scripture that actually supports the point you are trying to make; i.e., Jesus preaching tolerance. Citing a verse where Jesus is basically exhorting His disciples to be more accepting of those who would share in their Christian fellowship only supports your assertion in a very narrow sense. That is to say, of course we should welcome those who would join us in praising His name.

          This does not, however, support your claim that Jesus preached tolerance and acceptance of everyone, including the unsaved. Indeed, Jesus tells us we are to shun them.
          You're an idiot; stop speaking. Learn to interpret the Bible you so dearly hold close.
          Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

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          • #20
            Re: Pastor Ezekiel

            Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
            The KJV version holds the same truth. To ignore this as the word of God goes against YOUR beliefs. To say that it holds no validity, or that it doesn't promote religious tolerance is heresy.
            Let's put aside the discussion about the various versions of the Bible and discuss the relevant verses here.

            How do you feel about JESUS' promise to butcher His opposition? (That is, the people who do not obey Him.)

            Does that sound like a tolerant JESUS?

            You seem like somebody who wants to come to the foot of the Cross, but it seems you are having difficulties excepting some of the more rigid parts of Christianity, such as the part where you have to let go of what you think is right and wrong, and simply let the Bible tell you what is right and wrong.
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            • #21
              Re: Pastor Ezekiel

              Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
              You're an idiot; stop speaking. Learn to interpret the Bible you so dearly hold close.
              What is it about the Word of God that bothers you so? We don't interpret the Bible. We simply follow It, exactly as written.

              II Peter 1:20-21
              Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
              For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

              You don't have to go to hell, you know. Christ will save you, but you have to let Him enter you. Don't you want to join us in Heaven?

              II Thessalonians 1:7-9
              And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
              In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
              Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



              The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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              • #22
                Re: Pastor Ezekiel

                Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
                Luke 6:31

                31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
                I cannot believe you quote the golden rule as a license by Jesus to persecute us.

                Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
                After meeting you people, I couldn't care less about the bible.
                How else will you learn what God wants? 2 Timothy 3:16 tells us that it the words of God that he breathed himself for purposes of correcting sinners.

                Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
                You're an idiot; stop speaking. Learn to interpret the Bible you so dearly hold close.
                We are supposed to read the Bible, not re-invent it through private interpretation. 2 Peter 1:20 tells us that the Bible is not subject to private interpretation.
                "Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).

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                • #23
                  Re: Pastor Ezekiel

                  Originally posted by Jedediah View Post

                  In what sense have you been washed in His Blood? Its pretty clear to anyone who actually has received Salvation through Sanctification of the Spirit that you are a hellbound sinner, following after your own lusts and vile affections.

                  It's not to late for you to come to Christ. He died for your sins. It's the least you could do. But instead, you come to persecute a community of His followers. It's disgraceful.
                  I came here to ask a simple question on the explanation your community offers on various aspects of the Bible. To which, I was hastily chastised and not even answered. I can keep repeating this, but your feeble brain won't ever process it(since it somehow hasn't already).

                  I recommend downloading a copy from here, printing It out and binding it yourself. There are too many heathens in the secular publishing world, and satan uses them to distort God's Word. This is a trustworthy download, as the information on the top page will inform you.
                  The version is irrelevant as the verses I've cited still hold the same significance.


                  Originally posted by Bob4God View Post
                  So it doesn't offend you when JESUS says in Luke 19:27 that He intends to see all who oppose Him slaughtered and lying dead in the dirt?
                  Considering I don't oppose Jesus, no, it doesn't offend me. Being chastised for attempting to understand the thought process, however, does.
                  So why would it offend you if we, His humble servants, are busily going about our duty to save people from being slaughtered by an angry CHRIST?
                  Your humble duty isn't to call every unsaved individual trash simply because they're unsaved. Your humble duty isn't to chastise those with simple questions. Your humble duty does not include referring to everyone who doesn't believe EXACTLY what you do queers, perverts, homosexuals, and useless/worthless.


                  We use the KJV only, by the way.
                  Read the same passage in your version. It has the same meaning. As I already stated(I have to say this phrase a lot; can you people learn to read something through all the way?), the meaning holds the same significance.



                  Originally posted by ExGay Alex View Post
                  Says nothing about tolerance. Says to encourage people who promote Jesus' teaching and who act in his name. That's why you pray in Jesus' name. John 14:13-14.

                  I do not see in your passage where Jesus says "just forget about the fornicators and the sinners." To the contrary. We are supposed to preach to the sinners. Proverbs 24:11-12, as repeated by Jesus in Mark 16:15-16.
                  Are you seriously this enveloped in your blind hostility to the real world that you cannot even interpret one of the most clearly stated scriptures?


                  For those who fail to recognize that:
                  1 Corinthians 10:31-32:
                  31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
                  32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
                  Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Pastor Ezekiel

                    Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post

                    Are you seriously this enveloped in your blind hostility to the real world that you cannot even interpret one of the most clearly stated scriptures?


                    For those who fail to recognize that:
                    1 Corinthians 10:31-32:

                    32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
                    And you're doing it again - picking out the little bits of the Bible you like and disregarding the rest.

                    Job 2:10
                    But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.
                    Genesis 7:5
                    And Noah did according unto all that the LORD commanded him.


                    John 8:32
                    And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.


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                    • #25
                      Re: Pastor Ezekiel

                      Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
                      Are you seriously this enveloped in your blind hostility to the real world that you cannot even interpret one of the most clearly stated scriptures?
                      The passage clearly states to encourage people who are doing Christ's work. It says absolutely nothing about tolerating sinners. In the passage, the disciples tell Jesus that there is a preacher preaching the power of Jesus, and they do not like that because this preacher is not a disciple. But Jesus says, don't worry about it. He cannot be a bad guy if he is using me as inspiration. But don't take my word for it. Just read it again. I don't see where it says "yeah, that guy's a homer; just let him go and God will take care of him in due course." The guy in question was doing GOOD things.

                      Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
                      1 Corinthians 10:31-32:
                      31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
                      32 Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:
                      You left out the very next verse, the rest of the sentence. 1 Corinthians 10:33: even as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

                      Jesus is telling them to be nice to people in order to save their soul, which is all we tried to do with you, foul sinner. He doesn't say to ignore them nor to just tolerate them. In any case, how did your initial post comply with this, Christ's commandment?
                      "Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).

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                      • #26
                        Re: Pastor Ezekiel

                        Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
                        And before any jackass wants to link me to the post about flaming, piss off.

                        I'd like to see where the "100,000,000" people are that believe the same thing as you people.
                        For all of these people to qualify as "like you" they must:
                        -Believe the world is flat(lol'd so hard to realize people still believe this)
                        -Believe in unicorns(lol again)
                        -racist
                        -sexist
                        -have a horrible attitude against anyone with even the slightest opposing viewpoint
                        -call them trash upon signing up
                        -have a plethora of "ex-gay" faggots.
                        Seeing as how any Christians claim to believe in God because there is direct evidence for God in the Bible which is the word of God and that's pretty much it as far as a basis for faith goes that's every single Christian on the Earth that believes in unicorns and that women are to be subservient to men or they don't really believe in the same God as each other.

                        We are True Christians(TM) who actually believe in what others only claim to believe in before they then make up a fake god inside their heads that's really, when you get right down to it, the person's own mind. Adding a wholly constructed god to it that feels good then claiming that god is real and it justifies your cherry picked prejudices isn't exactly honest, is it?
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                        • #27
                          Re: Pastor Ezekiel

                          Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
                          Luke 6:31

                          King James Version (KJV)

                          31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

                          You were supposed to find a verse in which Jesus taught tolerance. I wouldn't want anybody to tolerate my sin, if I was a sinner on the road to damnation. I would want them to rebuke me sharply, as we do to unsaved trash such as yourself. The reason we are this way is BECAUSE of the Golden Rule, not despite it. Employ logic, son.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Pastor Ezekiel

                            Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
                            Luke 6:31

                            King James Version (KJV)

                            31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
                            If I was doing something that would send me to eternal torment at the hands of the Living God I'd like to be warned.
                            Hebrews 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

                            Luke 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

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                            Isaiah 34:6 The sword of the LORD is filled with blood, it is made fat with fatness, and with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams: for the LORD hath a sacrifice in Bozrah, and a great slaughter in the land of Idumea.

                            John 5:46,47 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

                            Join me in scoffing at backwards Muslims clinging to their beliefs in the face of the evidence!
                            The truth about volcanos
                            Sex and debauchery in public schools
                            Faith wins over science (explained for even the very stupid)
                            God Cures AIDS - GLORY!
                            Desert whale bones prove Great Flood once and for all.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Pastor Ezekiel

                              Originally posted by LightSoWhite View Post
                              Luke 6:31

                              King James Version (KJV)

                              31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
                              Have you followed that in your long winded whining rant?
                              I'm not the one being intolerant. I was the one asking a simple question that opposed your viewpoints, and I was chastised and mocked for it. That's the epitome of intolerance;
                              Ah, so coming here and calling people idiots and trash is not intolerant when you do it. You're such a special little snowflake that God wants you to curse and call people names. When you do it, you're merely asking questions.

                              In your many readings of the Bible over and over, have you ever run across Matthew 7?

                              5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
                              Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.


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