[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: *Facerolls keyboard with anger*

I'm sick of you faux Christians. Scripture or GTHO, friend.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: *Facerolls keyboard with anger*

I am a Catholic. I have been a Catholic for a majority of my life.

I do pray that you are now able to sit down without wincing. Your life must have been so horrible. However, on the bright side, you are probably due some damages.

The teachings of Jesus have guided me through my life,

I doubt it.

The God that I know has not ever told me that it's acceptable to beat my girlfriend because she doesn't obey me.

You, sir, are illiterate. Your "girlfriend" is her father's responsibility and you have absolutely nothing to do with her, nor may you command her in any way.

First you come to an agreement with her father, then he agrees you may marry her, then you will find that she will obey you - indeed, she must obey you.

In fact, I openly welcome her free thought.

Being as you're a Catlick, you could do with some free thought, but you will recall that listening to a woman was the cause of all the troubles on earth.

And yet you think it is a good idea?

[Chewer]

Re: *Facerolls keyboard with anger*

One last note: I will NOT abuse another in God's name. Ever. I will not demand something they are not comfortable with, I will not physically abuse them, and I will not ever expect submission from anyone. With that said, I have schoolwork to attend to.

This pointless theological squabble has been fun. I'll just kindly go back to Mass now.

How exactly do we physically abuse people? God DEMANDS that we beat our wives, and children to save them from the fiery pits of HELL!

Proverbs 23:14 "Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell."

Proverbs 13:24 "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

[Mother Of Seven]

Re: *Facerolls keyboard with anger*

... I am well aware of the passages supporting your statements. However, these statements were made in the context of a different kind of society, and they were made by -mortals-. Yes, mortals who were acting in the name of the Lord. But they are mortals nonetheless. This is why I cannot fairly expect my significant other to submit to me completely: I do not believe it is what God had in mind for her.

So here, you are saying that the Bible is not the word of God. But of men. If that be the case, how can you take their word for anything? How can you take their word for the fact that God and Jesus exist? If you dispute that it's the word of God, all religion collapses in a heap - it does not exist. God exists because He tell us in the Bible He exists. It is His word. If it's not His word, then you must think of the Bible as nothing more than a fairy tale, or the collected rumblings of a few deluded men.

I was given free will by God for a reason. I believe He would wish for us to find our way to Him of our own will.

But here you are saying that He exists. Contradiction?

Also, I am not being hateful. I am the one preaching for equal treatment of all people. If that is hateful in your eyes, I may as well leave the forum right now. I'm clearly not getting anywhere.

So this is your new religion, where you think you're God and are preaching something that the real God never said or intended. I call that Heresy.

Second off, I have never once spoken of knowing better than Christ. The fact of the matter is that He Himself has not spoken of the matter in the same way as Paul and others have, to my knowledge. Present to me a quote where He spoke of it rather than a human speaking in his name if you wish to accuse me of denying His word.

Once again, refer to my previous paragraph. Not once to my knowledge did Jesus Himself ever speak of the matter in the same light as Paul and others. I understand the concept of divine influence, but even with that included into the equation there are still sociological differences and personal opinions that factor into it..

Again, you're denying the word of God. Is Paul your god? No, your doubting Paul's word too.

I have never once claimed that "warm, fuzzy feelings" are enough to grant one passage into Heaven. What I believe will, however, is behaving in the way that Jesus taught us to. In an accepting, forgiving, and loving way. He taught us to come to him with our sins, openly admit them to Him, and ask Him humbly for forgiveness while encouraging those around us to do the same. This is how I try to live my life. However, as a mortal human, I sometimes fail. Hence why I must repent sins to Him and work as best as I can to achieving perfection.

Hang on. How did Jesus teach us to do anything? If was Paul was just making stuff up? Are you saying that you worship a God of Paul's making? I think you're worshipping a God of your own imagination.

I've utilized the talents that God gave to me in the best way I possibly can, and I work to do better each day.

Which God?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: *throws catlick temper tantrum*

Most points arising have already been covered.

Normally I'd stop reading after the words "I am a Catholic" because I know catholicism is just a re-badged form of Roman paganism. The idols are pretty much identical, allowing for local variations in robes and hats. So rather than highliting the bits where you presume God to be a liar I'll highlight the places where you need to quote Scripture (with context as appropriate).

I am a Catholic. I have been a Catholic for a majority of my life. The teachings of Jesus have guided me through my life, and not once have they ever spoken to me as hateful.
you need to address God's list of people, cities, ideas and whole nations He hates and to explain instant and spontaneous hatreds incorporated into God's Just Law together with those we are commanded to hate

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I hope -- no, I pray -- that everyone who has an account here is being sarcastic. I can't stand to read this forum.

Alright, listen up. You're probably already aware by the tone of this post that I'm aiming to get banned, but I'd like to say something to anyone here who actually takes this website seriously: What God are you worshiping? The God that I know has not ever told me that it's acceptable to beat my girlfriend because she doesn't obey me. In fact, I openly welcome her free thought. It goes so far as to say that I like it when she acts dominant on occasion. I'm pretty sure God's okay with that, seeing as I haven't been fried with any lightning bolts yet. Functional, Godly relationships are not created through the submission of one party to the other,
you need to demonstrate your claims by showing how God does not command submission
you need to show how God's descriptions of submission are in error
Scriptural support for your ideas about correction needs to be posted here

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at the risk of punishment by the other. That's BDSM culture. I really, really hope that all of you are being entirely satirical. And I'm not posting this to argue or to troll or anything of the like. I'm legitimately concerned for the state of Christianity based on what I've seen here, and since I've seen things similar stated in complete sincerity by other sects of the Baptist church, I don't doubt for a moment that at least one of you didn't get the memo and is taking all this completely seriously. God does not want us to hate others.
you need to address God's list of people, cities, ideas and whole nations He hates and to explain instant and spontaneous hatreds incorporated into God's Just Law together with those we are commanded to hate

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He does not want us to treat women as inferiors.
OK, so the Scripture explaining God's position on this has been posted. If you disagree you need to show where Scripture contextualises this in some way

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He created us all equal, yes?
it's no good going "yes?" - you need to post Scripture stating that it is so; Genesis 2 would be a start, then get onto actual behaviours in chapter 3
now I am aware of the Romish Sola scriptura criticism but even if there were other sources for what God thinks or instructs they would surely not disagree with what He had previously thought or instructed and yet papists prefer instruction from self appointed priests and cardinals over direct Revelation from God Himself? think about this carefully

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Should we not then treat all people equally?

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It seems as though that would be the Godly thing to do. If this is true, it would mean that racism (treating other races as inferior in some way or another), sexism (inequality of the sexes), and all the other bigoted views I have seen supported here would all be ungodly. He would consider them to be sinful.
several opportunities here for you to post Scripture and remember that for the masses of India temple prostitution "seems the right thing to do" just as for cannibalists eating people seems the right thing to do which is why you need to quote Scripture here

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I suggest any of you who truly take the words on this forum seriously should take a while alone to pray, without your King James Bible. Just pray and talk to God for a while. You need it badly.
I'll step outside your preconceptions here for a moment and even provide a link

what were you saying about BDSM obsessions earlier? Christ is risen! yet popery remembers only His pain your dying God risen no more

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Additionally, while there are a lot of questions on this specific post that angered me, there were a couple in particular that pissed me off. "Christians cannot sin"?

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Excuse me? We are all sinners.
Scripture goes here - pay attention to tenses

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Each and every single one of us..
WERE sinners - sin is what we have been delivered from (except catholics and other non-Christians)

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Just because we have accepted Jesus Christ as our lord and savoir does not save us from being sinners.
Scriptural support for your position goes here

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This is why we must repent.
we have

Every one of us does
DID..

wrong in our lives, some more so than others. God will forgive
HAS FORGIVEN..

us if we just ask Him.
WE HAVE..

Ask an ye shall receive, no?
OK, so going "no?" doesn't mean anything; we already know that God answers prayer and so here is where you post Scripture showing that after God has answered prayers for forgiveness that Christians continue sinning merrily away:

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"Women should shut up" I have a problem with in the first place.
Scriptural support goes here:

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I have met many a woman who vastly surpasses the intelligence of the majority of men I have met. My girlfriend is among them. She is an absolutely brilliant mind, with more things to say and more valid points than many a theologian in this world. And she's younger than I am. I treat her as my equal. She is not better than me, she is not inferior to me.
Scriptural support goes here:

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In fact, I actually believe her to be a better person than I most of the time. But when you've saved a handful of people from suicide like I have, you're allowed a little pride in your achievements.

Scriptural support goes here:

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(this is getting to sound a bit like one of those goth threads)

I would never tell her to shut up.
Scriptural support goes here:

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I would never be angry with her for disobeying me.
Scriptural support goes here:

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I don't expect her to obey me at all. I'm not her lord.
Scriptural support goes here:

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That's Jesus Christ, just the same as it is for me. THIS IS WHAT GOD WANTS OF US.
SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT GOES HERE

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DO NOT ABUSE WOMEN. DO NOT TREAT THEM, OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF PEOPLE, AS INFERIOR TO YOU.
SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT GOES HERE

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DO NOT ACT AS THOUGH YOU CANNOT SIN.
SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT GOES HERE

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IF YOU BELIEVE YOURSELF TO BE TRULY PERFECT
SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT GOES HERE

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AND RIGHTEOUS IN EVERY WAY, THAT MIGHT JUST BE YOUR UNDOING AND YOUR TICKET TO HELL. Although I sincerely believe that few, if any at all, make it into Hell.
Scriptural support goes here

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I think I've said enough now. Feel free to nail me to the cross over this. You'd simply be acting as the Romans did before toward Jesus Christ, your supposed "Lord".

tl;dr I really hope that you're not as bigoted as you seem.

inb4 persecution for my beliefs. If you're going to reply to me at all, let's actually have a rational discussion rather than everyone on this God-forsaken forum condemning me to Hell.
explanation of why your beliefs trump Scripture goes here

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Rational discussion requires agreement on certain immutable facts. You have yet to so agree. Hence no discussion. If you'd like to chuck a few popes onto the bonfire please do so, but be aware that we have read The Bible and you haven't and that although popes may have read it they prosper by disregarding it, disregarding God.

Come to Jesus today.

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: *throws catlick temper tantrum*

These faux Christians don't seem to realise that the burden of proof is firmly on them if they want to assert that the Bible doesn't mean what it says.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: *throws catlick temper tantrum*

These faux Christians don't seem to realise that the burden of proof is firmly on them if they want to assert that the Bible doesn't mean what it says.

I've tried to make it simple for him, he could just print out my reply and fill it in gradually, I even provided a link to the Douay-Rheims to show how, even by their own standard, their mumbojumbo contradicts itself. But an example of how deep this runs is indicated here:

..nymphomaniacs ..sexual addiction ..fetishes ..BDSM ..I don't entirely accept the teachings presented by the Roman Catholic church, I would be more than happy to accept those of the Anglican

Yes, he'll find all those and more within the Church of England where variety does seem to be the spice of life if newspaper headlines are anything to go by. Unlike headlines from their Romish bedfellows. And now the pope has declared the vatican a poor church for poor people. Who does he think he's fooling? The real estate alone must be worth trillions and if they ever do hook up with the Anglicans there will be palaces laid on and mansions across 3 continents, all stuffed with solid gold everything, encrusted with gems I doubt you could sell it off in a century. No wonder the people are poor. But at least thery're not suing for nymphomania.


_http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/20/george-pell-has-held-views-on-suing-catholic-church-for-some-time

[Holy Henry]

Re: *throws catlick temper tantrum*

This weak catlick man is obviously being controlled by his harlot wife. Little does he know by allowing this behaviour he Is sending her to hell.

I hope after reading these inspirational passages he can learn to discipline his overbearing wife and regain control of his relationship.

[Calvinist]

Re: *throws catlick temper tantrum*

I am a Catholic. I have been a Catholic for a majority of my life. The teachings of Jesus have guided me through my life, and not once have they ever spoken to me as hateful. I hope -- no, I pray -- that everyone who has an account here is being sarcastic. I can't stand to read this forum.

You mean the Church tradition is the ultimate authority over sola scriptura, and therefore has told you what to think? And I suppose next you'll say that nobody has ever met the hateful persecutions of the Catholic Church in dealing with anathemas?

This is what true Sarcasm looks like from the Catholic Church:



Personally, I don't understand how Francis can say that atheist will go to heaven and that he has no right to judge homosexuals and yet deny protestants? Maybe you can shed some light upon these apparent contradictions?

I'll be praying for you!

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: *throws catlick temper tantrum*

These faux Christians don't seem to realise that the burden of proof is firmly on them if they want to assert that the Bible doesn't mean what it says.

Indeed, Brother. One of the surest signs of a liberal false Christian is denying that he could ever have the burden of proof on anything.