[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Don't Invite Some Poor Person to Christmas Dinner

The reason people help the poor is that they had rougher lives.

There's probably a reason for that - probably their parents sinned, or they did.

They aren't as well off as you and this could be for many reasons.

No, it's always because they haven't got enough money.

Poor childhood, parents weren't well off too, no family members, and many other reasons. etc.,etc.

Poverty is an intractable problem. In fact, some theologians say that even God cannot cure poverty. Some support is given to this by Jesus;
Matt:26:11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.

I think it was Nathan Bergdorf who, as early as 1796, said, "It is as if God has ordained that there be poor people to remind us of our wealth and happiness."

Combating poverty is re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. It is almost as if the kind benefactor were trying to defeat God's Plan.

[Johny Joe Hold]

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How DARE you say this. Your ignorance makes me sick. The reason people help the poor is that they had rougher life's. They aren't as well off as you and this could be for many reasons. Poor childhood, parents weren't well off too, no family members, and many other reasons. Most of the time it isn't their fault! This is why we help them. Look in the new testament with Jesus. He helps the poor, the weak, the sick, anyone. You are just greedy pigs.

As a Mayor, my job is to make our city better. And while I'm at it, make the entire country better. I do this by trying to make poor people see the error of their ways.

My prayer for you is that you, too, can begin to improve. Start tomorrow by giving some poor person a motivational message. Tell that person he/she can climb out of poverty if they have the will.

[Johny Joe Hold]

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The malls have their beautiful Christmas decorations up and Christmas music is everywhere. When we see these malls putting their best foot forward I'm reminded that we at Landover Baptist must do the same. We need to remember the purpose of Christmas and plan this season with the best Christmas traditions in mind.

We need to remind the world this is when baby Jesus was born. Then, we need to remember his message to the world. He wanted His people to be prosperous and to look great. For a perfect example, remember the pictures of the beautiful Trump family.

Rest assured, the Trump family will not be inviting dirty poor people into their homes this Christmas. We should not either. The spirit of Christmas is a celebration of prosperity and good looking family members.

Merry Christmas.

Johny Joe Hold, Mayor

[Isabella White]

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Rest assured, the Trump family will not be inviting dirty poor people into their homes this Christmas. We should not either. The spirit of Christmas is a celebration of prosperity and good looking family members. Merry Christmas.
Johny Joe Hold, Mayor

Oh, you are absolutely correct here, dear Brother Mayor Hold! Why should any of us be inviting those impoverished ingrates into our lovely homes? I mean, can you imagine how our beautiful Christmas celebrations would be ruined if we allowed those brats to leave their cages dormitories at the border, to visit with us? Why, it would be unthinkable. Goodness, I can just see them knocking over my antiques epergnes now.

But, one thing we must also remember is it is because of our -sent President Trump that we can once again say, "Merry Christmas" so freely, any time we want, any place we desire. Gone are the dreaded "Seasonal Greetings" days.

A blessed day to you, Dear Mayor,
Sincerely, Isabella W.

[Johny Joe Hold]

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What really annoys me is so called Christian groups who preach it is in our faith to invite poor and dirty people into our homes at Christmas. Our mission is to make the world a better place. How can rewarding the slovenly help with that?

My advice is, stay with our Christian values. Reach out to those who are worthy but not to those are lazy and will make the season less festive:

https://www.dayspring.com/articles/inviting-a-stranger-to-dinner

[Brother Gonzalez]

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What really annoys me is so called Christian groups who preach it is in our faith to invite poor and dirty people into our homes at Christmas. Our mission is to make the world a better place. How can rewarding the slovenly help with that?

My advice is, stay with our Christian values. Reach out to those who are worthy but not to those are lazy and will make the season less festive:

https://www.dayspring.com/articles/i...nger-to-dinner

If you invite a poor to your house, his house still will be ugly, dirty and smelling. And now your house will be dirty and smelling.
So, you have made the world worst just by inviting poor people to your house.


Don't.

[Isabella White]

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What really annoys me is so called Christian groups who preach it is in our faith to invite poor and dirty people into our homes at Christmas.

Amen, dear Brother Mayor Hold and again I say, Amen!! People need to realize that there is no practical merit to inviting those filthy slobs into our gracious homes. Why, are there not homeless shelters where those degenerates could enjoy a sandwich somewhere? Besides, that stunt of having slovenly people in a nice house has been tried, and look at where it got us!

A blessed day to you, dear Mayor,
Sincerely, Isabella W.

[Johny Joe Hold]

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Again this year I'm seeing unkept freeloaders standing on street intersections outside of Freehold with little signs, "I'm a Veteran," "Homeless," "Need $ to get Home," and other nonsense. When the light is red and cars are stopped, people open their windows and hand the freeloaders money.

Here is what I do and recommend to others. When the light is red I open my window and make eye contact. The beggar's eyes light up thinking some money is coming. Then I launch into a lecture about the opportunities in God's economic system, capitalism. If I have a copy of the "Help Wanted" advertisements I hand this to him.

Christmas is the time of Baby Jesus. As we know, Jesus came to us with a message about sin. A wealthy person has no need to steal. He avoids sin by not violating the Commandment, "Thou Shalt not Steal."

This Christmas, let's not reward those who don't work and earn. Let's tell others about opportunities for self improvement.

[Once was lost]

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This Christian is irritated when he sees people ringing Bells sitting on their Butts by a kettle asking for donations. I usually stop and lecture but even after restraining orders I still lecture them in the errors of their ways.

[WWJDnow]

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Again this year I'm seeing unkept freeloaders standing on street intersections outside of Freehold with little signs, "I'm a Veteran," "Homeless," "Need $ to get Home," and other nonsense.

Veterans are suckers and losers.

This Christmas, let's not reward those who don't work and earn. Let's tell others about opportunities for self improvement.

Amen. When I see homeless persons, I like to pray with them. They need that a lot more than they need food and shelter.

This Christian is irritated when he sees people ringing Bells sitting on their Butts by a kettle asking for donations.

The Salvation Army has been toning down its anti-LGBTQ rhetoric over the last few decades. I can't go along with that. Plus, they promote the Devil-inspired Santa Claus myth. Christmas is about worshipping Jesus, not about charity toward the lazy.

[James Hutchins]

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People are homeless because they are too lazy to buy a house.


Whenever some grubby guy stumbles up to me they always have a old cup full of money! What poor person can walk around with so much money they have to stick it in old coffee cups! So I'll lighten the burden and take the cup, spending it in a nice restaurant on a Porterhouse, leaving exactly 20% as a tip, assuming the wait staff is White. Any left over is given to The Church.


People seem to forget that Christmas is about Christ and not about others. We celebrate His birth and that means not giving what is His to the ungrateful.

[Isabella White]

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Oh, "poor person", my aching feet! Does such a thing even truly exist? Oh, I know what some will be saying, about people sitting on the sidewalk, with a coffee cup held out to receive change, and how people should feel sorry for them. And, I will admit that I passed one of those slobs the other day when I was returning from the Piggly Wiggly. But, it was obvious to the world that he was as phony as a three-dollar bill! He was chatting up a storm on his cell phone gadget, and his pet German shepherd was by his side. If he has money for the latest electronic toy, and if he can keep an expensive dog, then he proves he is not poor. Yes, he did have a sign saying he is a veteran and that he suffers from PTSD, but we all know that anybody can make up any sign that they want and then put on an act. So, all he got from me is an official look of disapproval!

And, besides that, Christmas dinner is a time for having family members and friends in for the day -- a time of great merriment. With gift exchanges and much planning for the dinner, unfortunate people would feel out of place. They wouldn't be able to appreciate the work that goes into preparing for these celebrations. And, most importantly, feeding them would be an exercise in futility, because they will never take it upon themselves to improve their personal situation. The warned us about such unscrupulous persons!

Matthew 26:11 "For ye have the poor always with you"

[handmaiden]

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Sister Isabella, you bring up such an important point. All this "War on Poverty" nonsense--Jesus did say that we would always have poor people. So trying to eradicate poverty is just an atheist scheme to go against Jesus.

Honestly! They will stop at nothing to try and refute God's Word and Authority.


The Bible tells us clearly that if you do not work, you do not eat. Begging on the streets isn't work--it's laying about in a state of sloth.


That is a sin right up there with gluttony. And that's another sin those people would be committing if everyone supplied them with food.

[Isabella White]

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Sister Isabella, you bring up such an important point. All this "War on Poverty" nonsense--Jesus did say that we would always have poor people. So trying to eradicate poverty is just an atheist scheme to go against Jesus. That is a sin right up there with gluttony. And that's another sin those people would be committing if everyone supplied them with food.

Oh, my, yes, I should say so, dear Sister Handmaiden. And the good knows that some people refuse to take on any responsibility in helping themselves. What's that old saying? helps those who help themselves! And inviting those poor slobs to mas dinner helps no one, because it does not get to the root of the problem. Why, it would be like trying to empty the Atlantic Ocean by scooping out the water with a sieve!

What those poor people really need is to stop moaning about their situation, clean themselves up, buy some decent clothing (and get a haircut, for goodness sake!) and then get down to the local job centre and apply for suitable employment somewhere. Other people have gone through tougher times, and they have survived, by looking for work and not expecting a welfare state to come to their rescue. Where would the woman in the video clip be if she had forsaken her pride by not acting on a common-sense duty to search for employment?

[Johny Joe Hold]

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I'm sure all True Christians™ join me in disgust at Christians-in-name-only. There is a group up the road from Landover Baptist that qualifies. It's called Hope Lutheran Church.

Hope Lutheran is offering a free Christmas meal to anyone who asks. That church doesn't seem to understand the harm it does to moral character by persuading people they can get something for nothing. How many people will quite their jobs and think they can live off of the rest of us because of Hope Lutheran?

We at Landover Baptist turn away anyone who asks for free handouts. We want people to grow in their lives and understand Jesus wants them off their duffs and going to work.

Hope Ministries accepting reservations for free Christmas Day meal deliveries in Des Moines (msn.com)