[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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I don't understand any of this. Are you from Connecticut? (did I spell that right?) Anyway, my son Skeeter has pledged to keep his fiance's virginity intact until Jesus tells him that the time is right to bring a new little Christian warrior into the world. Skeeter says the best place to find a chaste woman is at the Roller Derby.

There are usually some virgins at the bowling alley too.

[John the frog]

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You need to follow God's rules on the matter, as laid out in His Holy Word.

What church do you attend?

I attend Calvary Baptist Church in Winston-Salem, North Carolina.

I appreciate the patience of those on these boards. I'm only 19 and as a result often find myself not knowing the answer to some of the questions I find myself asking!

[Bob4God]

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I appreciate the patience of those on these boards. I'm only 19 and as a result often find myself not knowing the answer to some of the questions I find myself asking!

You won't find a more Christian forum on the internet!

As you become a True Christian, you will find that you have more and more answers because GOD is speaking to you. If there are things you still don't understand, you will have the faith to just let GOD handle things. He's so good at that too!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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I'm only 19 and as a result often find myself not knowing the answer to some of the questions I find myself asking!

Well, friend, that's usually the point of asking questions . . . to learn the answers.

What did you think of the Scripture Pastor Ezekiel pointed you toward?

[SUV]

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Everybody's doin' it, doin' it, doin' it
Picking their nose and chewin' it, chewin' it....

Wait - is that what people do on their honeymoons? Must be some sort of un$avED kind of thing

[Domina]

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I'm disappointed. I was lead to believe there was matrimonial night instructions to be found in this post.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I'm disappointed. I was lead to believe there was matrimonial night instructions to be found in this post.

That's what "Pre-Marital Pastoral Counseling" is for.

Let me know if you have any questions. I am always available via the link in my signature.

[New Directions]

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My wife and I copulated on our honeymoon, but that was only because we couldn't wait to produce a faithful Christian soldier. Many liberal therapists say that expressions of sexuality between married couples is healthy and good, but they couldn't be more wrong. I find the act of sexual intercourse to be very messy, and it leaves me feeling dirty.

[Bob4God]

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My wife and I copulated on our honeymoon, but that was only because we couldn't wait to produce a faithful Christian soldier. Many liberal therapists say that expressions of sexuality between married couples is healthy and good, but they couldn't be more wrong. I find the act of sexual intercourse to be very messy, and it leaves me feeling dirty.

Worse yet, secular "therapists" even endorse sexual activity between unmarried couples, and even same-sex couples!!!

As a REAL therapist, what do you think is the best way to prevent recreational sex and unmarried and homosexual sex?

[New Directions]

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Worse yet, secular "therapists" even endorse sexual activity between unmarried couples, and even same-sex couples!!!

As a REAL therapist, what do you think is the best way to prevent recreational sex and unmarried and homosexual sex?

Yes, secular therapists are the biggest proponents of those types of sex, and are therefore responsible for the spread of AIDS and the birth of autistic and other retarded children.

As a trained Christian therapist, I feel that the best way to prevent sexual perversion is to turn our children into adults with a moral backbone and some discipline. I'm a big fan of the "Spare the rod, spoil the child" mentality, so beatings are a must in the child's formative years if he or she is exhibiting "odd" tendencies.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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Godly, sir, simply Godly!

Tell me, I understand that, according to Sharia law, a mudslime has an absolute right to the services of his wife every 4 days whether she’s “up for it” or not (unless it is that time of the month.)

A friend of mine is lucky if his wife acquiesces once a week.

Is there a frequency of which you might approve / recommend for me for a True Christian™?

PS how much do you charge to write to wives?

[Nobar King]

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Here are some good examples of people who chose purity over their animal instincts. They didn't even KISS until their wedding day.

Couples save first kiss for wedding day

By Claudia Pinto
May 3, 2009
THE TENNESSEAN
December 13th was Katy Kruger's wedding day. It was also the day she had her first kiss.
The 22-year-old woman, who was married at Harpeth Hills Church of Christ in Brentwood, admits to being nervous and a bit self-conscious about having her first kiss in front of 200 people. "I wasn't sure what to do," said Kruger, who is model-beautiful. "I thought I would mess up." But after that initial smooch — which was met with spirited applause and cheers — Kruger quickly recovered. "It was so natural that I went back for another," she said.

In a culture where casual sex is the norm, some Tennesseans have taken the purity pledge to a whole new level, through a practice that some teens refer to as the "Virgin Lips Movement." Religious leaders say these examples of super-abstinence deserve admiration, not derision. Especially in a time when the only social taboo seems to be violating the "third-date rule." (For those unfamiliar with it, that means waiting until the third date to have sex).

"Even among Christians this is rare. All of those success stories need to be known," said Alec Cort, Tulip Grove Baptist Church's minister to students. "They should be shouted from the mountaintops. It's an extremely difficult thing to do, and it should be celebrated." While stories about Bristol Palin getting pregnant or a young woman calling herself "Natalie Dylan" trying to auction off her virginity on the Internet are almost impossible to miss, the tales of people like Kruger and Larry Harold largely go unheard.

Harold, 35, of Spring Hill, decided to save his first kiss for his wedding day when he was just in the eighth grade, after a youth pastor mentioned the idea. He hopes his story will inspire other young people who want to do the same. "It can happen," he said. And Harold and Kruger both say they're glad it did. "It was so important to me because I felt a kiss was something very intimate, and something I wanted to give only to one man, to my husband," said Kruger, who is currently living in South Africa with her husband, Ernie. "He thought it was so special, and he was so proud to be able to be the only man I will ever kiss." Harold said saving his first kiss on his wedding day guaranteed that his marriage wasn't based on "the physical." "I wanted to make sure it was based in the spiritual and emotional," he said. "I had faith that the rest would come later."

Unrealistic expectation?
There are no Gallup polls on how many people are trying to save their first kiss for their wedding day, so concrete statistics are difficult to come by. Cort believes it's rare, but maybe not as rare as the general public thinks. In the 15-plus years he's been working with teens, roughly 20 have approached him about wanting to save their first kiss for their wedding day. "I have always encouraged those people," Cort said. "It sets the ultimate bar."

Jessica Valenti, author of The Purity Myth: How America's Obsession with Virginity is Hurting Young Women, notes that 95 percent of Americans have premarital sex, and trying to save your first kiss for marriage may be an unrealistic expectation. If teens don't succeed: "It's a huge letdown," she said. "They feel like failures." Valenti said teens should be judged on values such as intellect, courage and integrity, not their sexuality. "The idea that's communicated is that if you have sex you're used goods," she said. But some teens who want to save their first kiss say they feel more pressure to have sex than to abstain.

"I've been made fun of for this decision, but I remind myself what's important," said Jolene Kasten, 17, of Scottsville, Ky. "Being a Christian I believe that's what God wants me to do. Wait." Kasten, who is home-schooled, said she first considered the idea at age 15, after her mother brought up the issue. But she stresses that the decision was hers alone. "The way I see it, if you kiss before you're married, you could be kissing someone else's husband or wife," she said.

'I felt very loved'
Megan Bryant, 17, said her friends are also "weirded out" by her plan. The Goodlettsville teen said they pepper her with questions about chemistry: How will she know whether she wants to marry someone unless she has sex with them or at least kisses them? Her answer, "I'm not going to marry someone because they are a good kisser." Bryant said she decided to save her first kiss after reading a book called I Kissed Dating Goodbye by Joshua Harris. The book — which came out in 1997 — is kind of the Virgin Lips Movement bible. "I read the book and I was like, 'Wow. Somebody has done this,' " Bryant said. "What's a better gift than your first kiss? I don't want to waste something that special."

Farrah Clark, 15, said she also decided to save her kisses after reading the book. She said in an effort to avoid temptation she has decided not to date until she goes to college. "It's a whole lot easier not to date," said Clark, of Linden, Tenn. "Then you don't have to worry about doing anything."

If it's any consolation to aspiring teens, Harold, a fifth-grade teacher, said it wasn't as hard as it sounds. "It took the guesswork out of it," he said. "It wasn't like when or where because I knew I wasn't going to." And he said the women he dated thought it was pretty cool. "I felt very cherished and loved that my husband cared enough to wait," said Harold's wife, Elaine, who had one kiss, "a peck" really, before she was married. "Especially because men are wired differently." And how was that long- awaited first kiss? "My wife said it was pretty slobbery, but what do you do," Harold said. "I definitely needed practice." While the first kiss may have been slobbery, Elaine Harold said the couple was a quick study and she wouldn't change a thing. "It was very special to know that was something we saved and no one can take that away from us," said Elaine Harold. "It gives a whole new meaning to 'You may now kiss the bride,' " her husband said.

[bluefire]

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"Sex is awesome! People should relax about sex. It's amazing! If you dont have sex then youll be more inclined to fall into lust which is FAR worse. Abstaining causes more trouble than it's worth. Marriage is nice but its over-rated nowadays and therefore means people feel let down by it." said this random girl I once saw. I have no idea who she was...

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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"Sex is awesome! People should relax about sex. It's amazing! If you dont have sex then youll be more inclined to fall into lust which is FAR worse. Abstaining causes more trouble than it's worth. Marriage is nice but its over-rated nowadays and therefore means people feel let down by it." said this random girl I once saw. I have no idea who she was...

Wrong! Sex is for fags.

You should be ashamed of yourself, talking like this. Are you a harlot of some kind? You should be flayed!

[SUV]

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I never do