[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

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Thor's John? You named yourself after an imaginary Norse god's bathroom?

[Thorjohn]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

Maybe if you had ever actually read one of them, you would know the truth

The New Testament contains over 900 quotes and references from the Old Testament, in every single book. Jesus himself quotes the Old Testament almost 200 times. The New Testament would make absolutely no sense at all if you did not know about the Old, because it is constantly referring to the other one.

Likewise, the Old Testament is incomplete without the New one, and the New Testament fulfills the prophecies of the Old.



Yes, because it was a false Church. People who do not have the light of God fear the truth. If you were comfortable, there was no light in that building.


Jóhannesarguðspjall 3:19En þessi er dómurinn: Ljósið er komið í heiminn, en menn elskuðu myrkrið fremur en ljósið, því að verk þeirra voru vond. 20Hver sem illt gjörir hatar ljósið og kemur ekki til ljóssins, svo að verk hans verði ekki uppvís.



Me, afraid of you?



My faith doesn't need strengthening, thanks.



Which just goes to show what a horrible place Scandinavia is. God demands the death sentence.

http://www.gotquestions.org/death-penalty.html

In the times of the Bible, it was also common for people to commit adultery, worship statues, and offer their children as sacrifices. Yet God forbid this. God not only ALLOWS slavery, he institutes laws for how to regulate it, and demands slaves keep working for their masters.

Exodus 21:2 has the rules for buying a slave.

Exodus 21:7 has the rules for selling your daughter into slavery.

Exodus 21:20-21 says you are allowed to beat your slave as long as he does not die on the same day that you beat him on.

Exodus 22:3 says convicted thieves should be sold into slavery.

Leviticus 22:11 has the rules for a priest to buy a slave.

Leviticus 25:39 says you should buy poor people to be your slaves.

Leviticus 25:44-46 says that you have the right to take anyone from another country to be your slave, and you can own them forever, and pass them onto your children.

Ephesians 6: 5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.



Colossians 3: 22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.



1 Timothy 6: 1 All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God’s name and our teaching may not be slandered.

Titus 2: 9 Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them, 10 and not to steal from them, but to show that they can be fully trusted, so that in every way they will make the teaching about God our Savior attractive.

1 Peter 2: 18 Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.

There are more if you want them.



Actually, I couldn't agree with you more. We here at Landover want to replace democracy with a Godly theocracy. However, we are bound to obey the secular laws. Still, we would all prefer to have a King and the only law to be the Bible. God does not stand for democracy.

Luke 19:12-27 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.... But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.... But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
Numbers 16:1-35 Now Korah...and Dathan and Abiram...and On...rose up before Moses, with...250 princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown: And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?...And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment...And it came to pass...that the ground clave asunder that was under them: And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and ... they, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.
Jeremiah 10:23 O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.

Well, I´ve considered myself friendly towards Christianity, even though I would never be known for worshiping Mr. Jahve.

As I read more, I can only assume, that either you´re all a wonderful comedians, or you´re all very, very, VERY sick.

I think, that in 20-30 years, US of A will have been divided into 4-5 states, the two most powerful beiing United States of America, and Jesus States of America.

Many Europians hope that your agenda will win over the federal goverment (I´m not one of them, I want you all to know that). Beliving the Earth to be 6000 years old, not knowing that light travels etc, would eventually make Jesus States of America a country along with N-Korea, Iran, some African countries and so on. All your best scientists would flee over to Europe (like the ones who fled Hitler and went to the United States once). And you do have many of the best scientists in the world. At least for the moment...

[Levi Jones]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

Well Mr. Ezekiel, I am trying to read me trough this thread. And I wonder if this forum is a joke, or if you guys are serious. On one thread, someone is offering his 13 year old daughter for sale. At least that must be a joke. An Icelander wouldn´t even think of such a thing, not even after the countries bankruptcy (wonder why God robbed Iceland of all countries - even Sweden would have been better, more money you see... )

I didn't put her up for sale. I asked how much I could get for her. The Bible has clear rules for the selling of one's daughter.

Exodus 21:7-11 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.
And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters.
If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.
And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money.

It's right before the commandment against murder.

12He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.

[Thorjohn]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

So you think we should just ignore certain parts of the Bible, but follow other parts.

God thinks you're a demon.





How is it "militant" to obey God's every utterance? There are obviously few True Christians™ over in Godless Europistan.



If you want to know why God hates Iceland, go back to the beginning of this thread and read it all the way through.

If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.

Well Mr. Ezekiel, I am trying to read me trough this thread. And I wonder if this forum is a joke, or if you guys are serious. On one thread, someone is offering his 13 year old daughter for sale. At least that must be a joke. An Icelander wouldn´t even think of such a thing, not even after the countries bankruptcy (wonder why God robbed Iceland of all countries - even Sweden would have been better, more money you see... )

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

That would include, that instead of "tooth for a tooth and an eye for an eye" policy, we should embrace things like forgiveness and give the other cheek, when someone attacks us, right?

So you think we should just ignore certain parts of the Bible, but follow other parts.

God thinks you're a demon.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

I´m not a Christian, but what I feel is, that the American Christians are different from their European brothers and sisters. The American Christians having more "militant" approach to their faith than the latter. Personally I don´t think it has so much to do with the Bible, rather your nationality.

How is it "militant" to obey God's every utterance? There are obviously few True Christians(tm) over in Godless Europistan.

At the same time I´ve been writing on this board, I´ve been trying to read theese 245 pages of God hating Iceland. I don´t know if you all belong to the same parish or not, but reinstitute slavery??? Are those guys joking? And if not, why on earth would God hate Iceland? Whiter and more blue eyed people is hard to find on the planet, myself included. But to go hating blacks, is a long shot. At least for me...

If you want to know why God hates Iceland, go back to the beginning of this thread and read it all the way through.

If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.

[Thorjohn]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

I spend every day of my life spreading the Word to people I meet in real life and all over the world via the internet. I've never met another church whose members spent as much time talking about Jesus to every single person they can meet.

Why not read this wonderful little thread here? Why do we Have an "Unsaved Not Welcome" Policy?

"
The future of Christianity rests in the protection of a people to practice their religion in a safe environment. When unsaved folks are about, the environment becomes "unsafe." Why would an unsaved person want to go to church anyway? To do bodily harm to the people of God? To cause dissension within the body of Christ? To steal something? Church is not a place for unsaved people. It is a place for Christians to gather and be edified in Bible teaching. It is a place for Christian worship and fellowship. An unsaved person wouldn't feel comfortable in Church. They shouldn't - for does the Devil feel free to bask in the sweet light of God's glory? Nay! If you want to get someone saved, do it outside of the church. It's called 'evangelism.' We are tired of being criticized for our Godly policies! We evangelize over 50,000 souls a month outside our church! There is absolutely no reason for an unsaved person to be in church (the only exception would be janitorial, funeral, or matrimonial attendance). "

Jesus asks us to spread the word, He does not tell us to continually congregate with sinners.


Matteusarguðspjall 10:14Og taki einhver ekki við yður né hlýði á orð yðar, farið þá úr því húsi eða þeirri borg og hristið dustið af fótum yðar. 15Sannlega segi ég yður: Bærilegra mun landi Sódómu og Gómorru á dómsdegi en þeirri borg.


Jesus tells us to depart from the unsaved and not look back. We only invite people into our church who have heard the word and received it. And also:



íðari Kroníkubók 19:2Þá gekk Jehú sjáandi Hananíson fyrir hann og mælti til Jósafats konungs: "Hjálpar þú hinum óguðlegu og elskar þú þá, er hata Drottin? Sakir þessa liggur á þér reiði Drottins.


Síðara bréf Páls til Kori 6:14Gangið ekki undir ósamkynja ok með vantrúuðum. Hvað er sameiginlegt með réttlæti og ranglæti? Hvaða samfélag hefur ljós við myrkur? 15Hver er samhljóðan Krists við Belíar? Hver hlutdeild er trúuðum með vantrúuðum?
16Hvernig má sætta musteri Guðs við skurðgoð? Vér erum musteri lifanda Guðs, eins og Guð hefur sagt: Ég mun búa hjá þeim og ganga um meðal þeirra, og ég mun vera Guð þeirra, og þeir munu vera lýður minn.
17Þess vegna segir Drottinn: Farið burt frá þeim, og skiljið yður frá þeim. Snertið ekki neitt óhreint, og ég mun taka yður að mér



Fyrsta bréf Jóhannesar 2:15Elskið ekki heiminn, ekki heldur þá hluti, sem í heiminum eru. Sá sem elskar heiminn, á ekki í sér kærleika til föðurins.


There's more I can post, if you are interested.




The New Testament refers to Jesus dying on the cross to forgive the sins of Christians all over the world, whereas the Old Testament was only for the Israelites. That is the only difference.

Luke 22: 20Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.


Hebrews 9: 15And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.


Jesus in fact said that the Old Testament was binding forever, except for the ceremonial laws, which were fulfilled through his death (see the Book of Hebrews for more info on this).

Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.


Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.


John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;


Romans 15:4 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.


James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.


Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.


Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.


There are more quotes I can post if you are interested.


As for the eye for an eye stuff. In the Old Testament, that is talking about being punished in a court of law after a trial. In the New Testament, Jesus is talking about how to act to people on a personal basis. As individuals, we should not seek revenge. We should use the legal system.





Yes, and that's why Europe is becoming an increasingly secular society. That's why Europe has the highest percent of atheists in the world. That's why church attendance is so low in Europe. That's why sin is so acceptable in Europe. Europeans are not practicing Christianity like they should, and now most of your people don't even have any religion.



What's so bad about slavery? God allows slavery in the Bible. If it was a sin, why did God never say so?



So you are saying Icelanders are good people because they are white?! We do not allow racism like that on here!

I tend to see the old testament as the jewish Bible, the Tora (or what ever they call it), and the new testament referring to Christianity. It is really hard to combine those two.

I´ve never felt bad going to church. And I´ve been to a baptist mass, even if it was in France (one of the most secular societies in the world). There were many Americans there anyway, and I didn´t see them complain. To a non Christian like me, to be in this true house of God, felt the same as to stay in any other houses.

And my purpose here is not to steal or weaken your faith. If your faith is built on a strong fountain, why would you be afraid of me, beiing an unsaved trash (as I´m listed on this forum)? I would rejoice an oppertunity like having a discussion with an unsaved, if I was Christian. I would see it as an oppertunity to strengthen my faith.

Yeas, at least we can agree on, that Europe is more secular than USA. But still we have less poverty because of a better welfare system (that´s different between countries though), at least in the Scandinavian countries. We have much less crimerate, but still no Europian country have death sentence, and in Scandinavia, a life in imprisonment means that you will never spend more than 16 years in prison.

I would then argue, that Scandinavinan countries were practicing the words of Jesus, that is to take care of the least of his children, and beiing forgiving.

Regarding slavery: Jesus was walking, talking and preaching his words in a society where slavery was a fact. That´s why you have to look at it in a historic context. If you take every word in the Bible litterarly, the office of your presidency would have to be abolished - the Bible only mention kings. Would you like to make Mr. Barack Hussein Obama your king? Or anyone of the Bush-dynasty?

[Thorjohn]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

Well, we can agree on that God created the Universe. But if it was Jahve/Jesus/Holy Spirit, or if it was some kind of a different creator, is another question.

What do you mean by "open church policy?" I thought all churces were "open." By that I mean open to new members. Isn´t it one of the cornerstones in Christianity to make all nations Jesus disciples? Wasn´t that one of Christs last commands, before he left for the Heavens?

And another question: What I have learned of Christianity (mostly from my wife) is, that the word "testament" means a "deal." A deal between God and men. Then the new deal (not to be confused with one made by FDR ) would be the "legal deal" between God and men.

That would include, that instead of "tooth for a tooth and an eye for an eye" policy, we should embrace things like forgiveness and give the other cheek, when someone attacks us, right?

I´m not a Christian, but what I feel is, that the American Christians are different from their European brothers and sisters. The American Christians having more "militant" approach to their faith than the latter. Personally I don´t think it has so much to do with the Bible, rather your nationality.

At the same time I´ve been writing on this board, I´ve been trying to read theese 245 pages of God hating Iceland. I don´t know if you all belong to the same parish or not, but reinstitute slavery??? Are those guys joking? And if not, why on earth would God hate Iceland? Whiter and more blue eyed people is hard to find on the planet, myself included. But to go hating blacks, is a long shot. At least for me...

[James Hutchins]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

According to the Bible, God created us in His image, and with a free will. Actually, if the Christian God created us at all, free will would proof that He was a loving Creator, wouldn´t it?

So, with my free will, I can choose to follow Him or not. And than I would be in the full right to question everything about him, his Bible, his followers and all that.

Absolutely. God wants you decide on your own. To decide, you have to question.

And the story of Job. I have BIIIG trouble beliving that such a Creator as God would be in any need to test our loyalty all the time. And use such a cruel method to do it. Sounds like an insecure husband to me, sorry...

I do not consider it a test, rather a proof of commitment. Just like getting married. You can love your wife and you can go the extra step and prove that love by getting married. It should not nor does it change your love for her, it only provides additional proof, proof your wife can carry with her. My wife is Mrs. J. E. Hutchins. Before I married her she was Miss Elma G. Raye.

[James Hutchins]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

Well, mabye I have another perspective on this than you guys. I mean - to me, looking for the "right" church of God, is like standing in a fishmarket. Every salesman wants me to by their fish, because their fish is of course the best one in the place.

But how am I to know? To me all the dead fish looks the same, smell similarly and probably taste the same. And there are too many salesmen for me to taste all the fish at the market.

If you were one of the salesmen in this place, you would of course be convinced that your fish was the only true product, all the other fishes would only cause me a bad stomach.

I will continue sending my boys with their aunt to the Pentagostal church on Sundays. And if God truly exist, he will, when the time comes, judge whether your church or any other is right.

If he will judge the Icelandic Pentagostal church wrong, well - there isn´t too far for its members to the Gate, is there?

Good question. Lets step back for a second and think about it.

The goal is to find the one religion that is honest and true. I think we can all agree that God made the Heavens and the Earth. He is our Father. So what kind of a person is a Father. For starters:
He is stern
He is opinionated
He is responsible
He is direct, to the point
He is guiding/teaches
He is inclusive/does not skip the tough questions.

Now, you can compare Bibles, compare teachings of various 'Churches'. This can take years. You can look to the newspapers. Does the local.'Church' have an 'open door policy'? If so, it is a false 'Church'. Does it follow the entire Bible, even the not so fun parts? If not, it is ignoring the Word of God and therefore is a false 'Church'. Can you see where I am going? You need to figure out what is the Word of God and who follows it, without deviation or interpretation.
I will tell you, it is near universally accepted that the KJV Bible is accepted as an accurate word of Jesus Christ and his Disciples. I will also tell you that the Baptists follow the Bible exactly as God had it written. I have never in my 53 years, found another group that lays it all on the line like the Baptists do.
Some Churches had behind smoke and mirrors (joos and catlicks for example).Others by making outlandish promises like mooslimes and their rivers of honey and 72 virgins. How absurd, do you know how many nine year old girls would have to die to supply every male with that? Total genocide! And I can assure you, there are no bees in Heaven.
So think. You are obviously an intelligent man, capable of analyzing things. Being you have been exposed to the absurd teachings of the petacostals, read the KJV, find out what God is really trying to tell you. It is a real eye opener.
Please, do not risk your Salvation(c) on a chance. Find out and know before it is too late. I beg of you.

YIC
JH

[Thorjohn]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

Look, you have NO right to question God! He is always right because He is more powerful than you. Just look at the story of Job. God let Satan take away all of his money and material possessions, destroy his house, give him a horrible disease that disfigured him, and killed all of his children, and yet Job still praised God. Because, you have NO choice but to love him. Otherwise, you are going to hell.

According to the Bible, God created us in His image, and with a free will. Actually, if the Christian God created us at all, free will would proof that He was a loving Creator, wouldn´t it?

So, with my free will, I can choose to follow Him or not. And than I would be in the full right to question everything about him, his Bible, his followers and all that.

And the story of Job. I have BIIIG trouble beliving that such a Creator as God would be in any need to test our loyalty all the time. And use such a cruel method to do it. Sounds like an insecure husband to me, sorry...

[Thorjohn]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

So according to you both religion and science are wrong? Are you an i-dont-know-anything-ist?

Sounds to me you won't enjoy the unlimited sinning of an Atheist and you will also burn in Hell for all eternity. Your picture must be next to "ignorant" in the encyclopedia.

There is nothing wrong with not knowing something. If you don´t know you just don´t. Rather simple, right?

And I would, if I had a concentradet will to do so, live in all the unlimited sin in the world. But I choose not to live like that. I´m sure you disagree with me on this, but according to my belives, God has no patent on ethics. I do not steal, kill, or rape, and I´ve never needed no higher power to tell me that.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

On daily bases I do not fear Hell. Nor do I belive my sons will spend eternity there. I´m sure you will disagree with me on that one Mr. Basher, but so be it. And being an Icelander, and with your God hating my country, and having stolen all our money, what could I possibly do? And WHY would I have any reason to follow Him or embrace Him? Would you do that with someone that you knew hated you and had stolen all your money?

Look, you have NO right to question God! He is always right because He is more powerful than you. Just look at the story of Job. God let Satan take away all of his money and material possessions, destroy his house, give him a horrible disease that disfigured him, and killed all of his children, and yet Job still praised God. Because, you have NO choice but to love him. Otherwise, you are going to hell.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

In that context, both Jahve, Jesus, Allah, Mohammed, Buddha and all the others, seem so irrelevant in this huge scale of things. But to think that the Universe came to existence all by itself for no reason, like many scientists belive, is stupid.

So according to you both religion and science are wrong? Are you an i-dont-know-anything-ist?

Sounds to me you won't enjoy the unlimited sinning of an Atheist and you will also burn in Hell for all eternity. Your picture must be next to "ignorant" in the encyclopedia.

[Thorjohn]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

It's very simple. Just read the Bible. We adhere to it. They don't.

Just check out the truth of the Pentecostal (false) church.

Pentecostal MADNESS!


United Pentecostal Churches EXPOSED!


CHARISMATIC CHAOS!

Assemblies of God Heresies


The Charismatic Movement is Dangerous!

Speaking in Tongues EXPOSED!


False Religions EXPOSED!

BEWARE of The Foursquare Church!


Pentecostalism is of the Devil

The Charismatic Movement

-1st Corinthians 14:23); Pentecostalism is of the Devil · Ten Problems with the Present-Day ... Pentecostal Movement History and Roots (chronological chart) ...



People like you should have your children taken away from them, and you should be put in prison. What kind of parent does not care that his children are going to hell? You sound like a very sick, sad person

Neither am I sick or sad Mr. Basher. And I would be the first man to thank the Christian God for that, if I truly truly belived that He existed. Having said that, I do not consider myself an atheist. I do belive in some kind of a Creator. When I look up into the baautiful night sky, I tend to think, that if any God exists at all, He must be much much bigger than all religions and faiths here on this tiny little planet, in the middle of nowhere.

In that context, both Jahve, Jesus, Allah, Mohammed, Buddha and all the others, seem so irrelevant in this huge scale of things. But to think that the Universe came to existence all by itself for no reason, like many scientists belive, is stupid.

What you call Hell, I call the Earths core. Like billions of other rocky planets in the Universe, our planet has this hot core. Otherwise we wouldn´t be able to walk on the surface like we do.

On daily bases I do not fear Hell. Nor do I belive my sons will spend eternity there. I´m sure you will disagree with me on that one Mr. Basher, but so be it. And being an Icelander, and with your God hating my country, and having stolen all our money, what could I possibly do? And WHY would I have any reason to follow Him or embrace Him? Would you do that with someone that you knew hated you and had stolen all your money?

[Thorjohn]

Re: God Hates Iceland!

Well, mabye I have another perspective on this than you guys. I mean - to me, looking for the "right" church of God, is like standing in a fishmarket. Every salesman wants me to by their fish, because their fish is of course the best one in the place.

But how am I to know? To me all the dead fish looks the same, smell similarly and probably taste the same. And there are too many salesmen for me to taste all the fish at the market.

If you were one of the salesmen in this place, you would of course be convinced that your fish was the only true product, all the other fishes would only cause me a bad stomach.

I will continue sending my boys with their aunt to the Pentagostal church on Sundays. And if God truly exist, he will, when the time comes, judge whether your church or any other is right.

If he will judge the Icelandic Pentagostal church wrong, well - there isn´t too far for its members to the Gate, is there?