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  • Re: Does God hate Finland?

    Originally posted by Ollero View Post
    We Evangelic Lutheran Christians (majority of finnish Christians) do not believe in works but that through faith alone, we all will be saved. Here's some verses I found.

    Acts 16:27-31 does speak very little of works, the guard throws himself on floor. Is that enough? What else did he do?
    Originally posted by Ollero View Post


    Also, Ephesians 2:8-9 doesn't mention anything about the works, nor does Romans 10:9.


    Romans 3:22 claims everybody with faith in Jesus Christ are equal.


    John 6:28-29 tells you your works. It does not say: follow my teachings.

    This doesn't mean a Christian shouldn't obey Commandments of Jesus.

    Luke 18:17 proves that adults should be like a child during baptism: Show me the other requirements for baptism?

    Colossians 2:13 states that all baptised are forgiven their sins by Jesus.

    You are ignoring many important Verses of the Bible.

    The important point is that True Faith always result in good works, so if anyone fails to do these good works (good works = obeying the Bible), he is not a True Christian™. I will show you:

    Matthew 7:21:
    Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

    Not everyone who calls Jesus "Lord" is going to Heaven, but they that do His Will will go there.

    1 Corinthians 13:2:
    And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

    Charity clearly is more important than faith.

    1 Timothy 6:17-19:
    Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy; That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate; up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

    If you are rich, you should use your riches to do good works, according to the apostle Paul.

    Hebrews 6:10:
    For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.

    God will not forget our "work and labour of love." Again, an indication that God does care about good works.

    1 John 2:3-6:
    And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
    He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
    But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
    He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

    People that claim to know Jesus but do not keep His Commandments are not Christians. We ought to walk as Jesus did, which means doing good works, like He did.

    Revelation 20:13:
    And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

    Revelation 22:12:
    And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

    When Jesus returns, we will be judged according to our works.

    James 2:14:
    What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

    Faith can't save you if you don't have works.

    James 2:17:

    Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

    James 2:20:
    But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

    James 2:26:
    For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

    Even more, faith without works is "dead."

    Does that clear things up? This is why Lutheranism is considered a heretical, false doctrine among True Christians™. I'm afraid I have to inform you that you're going to Hell if you continue believing in this heresy.
    Sweet Lord Jesus,
    I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
    Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
    Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
    Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
    Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
    Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
    Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

    Amen.

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    • Re: Does God hate Finland?

      Originally posted by Andre-Bartholomew View Post
      Well see now you attacked me..
      And desrvedly so, François. You're behaving improperly towads your betters.

      Originally posted by Andre-Bartholomew View Post
      You sir, is the narrow minded goat. I believe mister Alban can talk with me, without your parenting advice...
      Insults? One step closer to Hell with every one pal. And you DO need my advice believe me.

      Originally posted by Andre-Bartholomew View Post
      but again, I do not want to fight, I just want to serve Jesus Christ.


      Well you can start proving that by NOT giving lip back to your betters.
      Earn our respect garlic breath. after all we are a tolerant bunch. As long as you don't act like a cretin.

      Go with God and heed my advice son. I mean it.

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      • Re: Does God hate Finland?

        Okay. I could not believe my eyes when I saw this forum. Well I did know that you Americans don't have proper geographic knowledge or information of other countries, but I never thought someone would actually say like "oh, that country Finland seems a bit disgusting to me. Well then, let's hate Finland and claim that we are better ourselves!"
        First of all, can't you simply see that you are making yourselves complete idiots by claiming things about Finland and then saying: "I don't know where it is, is it in Switzerland?" or "Do they even have schools there?", and after that say things like "But you do know that USA is the most developed country in the world". How can a developed country have such people like you that don't know one thing about other countries, or particularly a country that you have taken the questionable right to judge? Hirveetä paskaa.

        The thing about your "best country in the world" is that you may think so, but you can't see the real things. By being rich doesn't make you the greatest. Aren't you familiar with what Jesus said about a rich man having the most difficult time getting to Heaven? You have your faith in money, not in God. You may also have many people who say Jesus and God all the day, but don't act like Christians. Do you seriously call them proper Christians, when us Finns are not worthy either in your opinion?

        You claim to be the men and women of Jesus, so how can you be the ones to judge? Isn't God the one? How can you ever think you are worthy to define other people being less precious than yourselves, although they have done nothing bad to you? That's being selfish, you know. One of your problem that I've seen too many times is that you are extremely eager to highlight yourselves; I'm the better than you in this, my country is better than others, my beliefs are more worthy than yours. Työ kyllä tiiätte mistä mie puhun, noi hanut on ihan täynnä itteään.

        I would say that God does hate America, not Finland, because you Americans are the opposite of what proper Christians should be. And that's not what I have defined, it's the word of God, and you know it if you are even a bit clever.

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        • Re: Does God hate Finland?

          Originally posted by maana- View Post
          tl;dr

          Get a life, Finny.
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          • Re: Does God hate Finland?

            Originally posted by maana- View Post
            Okay. I could not believe my eyes when I saw this forum. Well I did know that you Americans don't have proper geographic knowledge or information of other countries, but I never thought someone would actually say like "oh, that country Finland seems a bit disgusting to me. Well then, let's hate Finland and claim that we are better ourselves!"
            First of all, can't you simply see that you are making yourselves complete idiots by claiming things about Finland and then saying: "I don't know where it is, is it in Switzerland?" or "Do they even have schools there?", and after that say things like "But you do know that USA is the most developed country in the world". How can a developed country have such people like you that don't know one thing about other countries, or particularly a country that you have taken the questionable right to judge? Hirveetä paskaa.

            The thing about your "best country in the world" is that you may think so, but you can't see the real things. By being rich doesn't make you the greatest. Aren't you familiar with what Jesus said about a rich man having the most difficult time getting to Heaven? You have your faith in money, not in God. You may also have many people who say Jesus and God all the day, but don't act like Christians. Do you seriously call them proper Christians, when us Finns are not worthy either in your opinion?

            You claim to be the men and women of Jesus, so how can you be the ones to judge? Isn't God the one? How can you ever think you are worthy to define other people being less precious than yourselves, although they have done nothing bad to you? That's being selfish, you know. One of your problem that I've seen too many times is that you are extremely eager to highlight yourselves; I'm the better than you in this, my country is better than others, my beliefs are more worthy than yours. Työ kyllä tiiätte mistä mie puhun, noi hanut on ihan täynnä itteään.

            I would say that God does hate America, not Finland, because you Americans are the opposite of what proper Christians should be. And that's not what I have defined, it's the word of God, and you know it if you are even a bit clever.
            Hello. Welcome. On kaunis päivä hirvenmetsastykseen. If you're finished the hunting then come on in. Pull up a pew.

            Why not introduce yourself in our introduction forum friend?
            I sense much anger in you. It may be blinding you to more important things than just your feelings.

            Welcome, and my God be with you.

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            • Re: Does God hate Finland?

              Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
              It doesn't get more original than the Holy Bible which we follow for 100% here.
              I bet you havent readed the bible even in the original language you see it has been translated from Hebrew and Greek and the translator has translated it as he/she tought that it meant. So you are not following the word of god. you are following word of nobody.
              And to top that Bible wasn't even written by Jesus, God or the holy spirit.
              HATERS GONNA HATE!

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              • Re: Does God hate Finland?

                Originally posted by maana- View Post
                I would say that God does hate America, not Finland, because you Americans are the opposite of what proper Christians should be. And that's not what I have defined, it's the word of God, and you know it if you are even a bit clever.
                You know nothing about the Word of God. Everything we say and believe is based on a literal understanding of Scripture. Take a look at our Bible Study subforum if you don't believe me.
                Sweet Lord Jesus,
                I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
                Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
                Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
                Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
                Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
                Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
                Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

                Amen.

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                • Re: Does God hate Finland?

                  hahahahhaaaaaahahaaaaahahahahaaaaa!
                  you "true believers" are funny. this made my day

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                  • Re: Does God hate Finland?

                    What does it matter what a stupid yankee pastor says about Finland anyway? This thread only proves that there are stupid americans and fucking stupid americans. So geniuses, translate this to your own language:

                    Onko teillä parempaa tekemistä kun vaan kehua omaa itteenne? Ainoo asia mitä te vitun käsinojaa nuuskivat läskit osaatte tehdä on tuijottaa omaa napaa, mut sekin on niin perkeleen hankalaa kun ne miestissit tulee eteen, niin sen navankin tuijottaminen onnistuu vaan kahen peilin kautta. Mitään Jeesusta ei oo olemassa ja se on yhtä fiktiivinen satuhahmo kun joku pääsiäispupu. Raamattu on lapsille tarkotettu satukirja.

                    God bless America!

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                    • Re: Does God hate Finland?

                      And to complete my visit. dont you "True Christians. TRADE MARK" understand what does this: ? (guestion mark) mean it means somebody has asked a guestion and you people either go around it or answer it with another guestion... accept your loss

                      and yeah PEDIABEAR DOES NOT EXIST IT IS PEDOBEAR...

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                      • Re: Does God hate Finland?

                        Originally posted by pohjolansonni View Post
                        What does it matter what a stupid yankee pastor says about Finland anyway? This thread only proves that there are stupid americans and piffleing stupid americans. So geniuses, translate this to your own language:

                        Deleted filth!
                        God bless America!
                        Why are you so angry?

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                        • Re: Does God hate Finland?

                          Originally posted by Lost Sheep McUinnean View Post
                          And desrvedly so, François. You're behaving improperly towads your betters.



                          Insults? One step closer to Hell with every one pal. And you DO need my advice believe me.



                          Well you can start proving that by NOT giving lip back to your betters.
                          Earn our respect garlic breath. after all we are a tolerant bunch. As long as you don't act like a cretin.

                          Go with God and heed my advice son. I mean it.
                          I'm a christian, even a baptist, so why should you be better than me??

                          but yes I will be less tempered from now on

                          please forgive me my good man, I will be more polite, whe talking to forum members.

                          I will do what I can to earn the forum's respect.

                          God's blessings.

                          Andre
                          I'm Alpha and Omega. The begining and the end.

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                          • Re: Does God hate Finland?

                            If money is production of Satan, why does american bank note say "In god we trust"?

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                            • Re: Does God hate Finland?

                              Originally posted by Andre-Bartholomew View Post
                              please forgive me my good man, I will be more polite, whe talking to forum members.

                              I will do what I can to earn the forum's respect.

                              God's blessings.

                              Andre
                              I'm glad to hear that, friend. Rebellious behavior against experienced True Christians(tm) only closes your heart to God's Word, which flows so abundantly from their mouths. Treat them respectfully, and learn from them what you can, and maybe you will be Saved(tm) one day too!
                              Sweet Lord Jesus,
                              I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
                              Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
                              Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
                              Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
                              Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
                              Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
                              Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

                              Amen.

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                              • Re: Does God hate Finland?

                                Originally posted by pohjolansonni View Post
                                If money is production of Satan, why does american bank note say "In god we trust"?
                                Who says that money is produced by Satan?
                                Sweet Lord Jesus,
                                I want to pray for those who persecute me, my Lord.
                                Please, treat their children as you treated those of Egypt, when they upset you! (Psalm 135:8-9)
                                Dash their little children against the stones for their fathers iniquity! (Psalm 137:8-9)
                                Hit them on the cheek, and smash out their teeth! (Psalm 3:7)
                                Make their death and descent into Hell swift and terrible! (Psalm 55:15)
                                Scatter their broken bodies over the streets of their evil cities, like Benghazi, Amsterdam, Tokyo and Mecca! (Psalm 110:6)
                                Praised be Your Glorious Name™.

                                Amen.

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