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  • Sander Sittn
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    • Jun 2010
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    #436
    Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

    Originally posted by WinnerNotSinner View Post
    I hate how atheists are so arrogant in that they determine anything that goes against their beliefs is automatically wrong or must be some kind of joke. I don't consider Christianity to be funny in the slightest.
    It's actually kind of funny you say this..Because most of the people on this thread do exactly that what you hate.

    But besides that, people keep asking to read the King James Bible before they reply on this thread. But then most of the people who say that don't even know what they're talking about (in this case The Netherlands and their inhabits). And then they can't be bothered to do some research before they complain about a country.. Like using the wrong flag, saying we don't have a word for virgin, saying everybody in the Netherlands is too stoned to do anything..And that we allow to have sex with minors? Where did you come up with that, and don't come with the argument that we had a political party that wanted to lower the legal age to have sex.. There is a very good reason why that party doesn't exist anymore, and that is also mentioned in the source you used.

    About the soccer thing, you called it soccer because you (and i mean the American people, not especially the True Christian people) are so arrogant that you claim the orignal football isn't real football because you called the game you play (wich is just rugby for people who are scared to get hurt) Football.

    I'm not going to hassle about your religion in this, because i have never read, or even heard of the King James Bible. I read that someone said it was about 400 years old, does this mean somebody came up with a new type of Christianity? So there is yet another interpretation and translation of all the ancient scriptures found in the middle east (where modern day Israel is etc)? What makes you think this is the correct one, the way God or Jesus meant it to be?

    I for myself don't believe in the existence of God, i do believe there was a man named Jesus who probably was a very amazing person but none the less a human. Nothing divine about him, maybe a very wise or enlightened man. But so was Buddha, and even Gandhi. We are the ones that made them divine, because we can't understand that some people are this wise.

    I do not believe there is a Heaven or Hell, wich is the reason why i'd rather do what i want to do, and what i feel is right in the time that i am alive. In stead of living my life by a book of wich i don't know is true. I'd rather die and go to hell, but still had the time of my life. Than do nothing and then find out there is nothing after death. It's a choice i have made, and if your bible is somewhat like the mainly used bible God gave me the possibility to make that choice.

    I always thought that God was the only one who had the right to judge a person. So i find it very interesting that you (the moderators and creators of this forum) label people that they will be sent for eternal damnation, just because the express their opinion. Who are you to tell what people can and can not do, you only interpret what you read that doesn't mean you interpret it the right way. And no one will know what the right way is. Especially if you go by a religion wich originally began thousands of years ago in a time when nobody was even able to write. The first writings about god are much younger than 'beginning of mankind' and the first things that were written in the mainly used bible. And then the stories were translated hundreds of times, from a language that does not have a word for every word in english, and the same other way around. Wich means the monks who used to translate these writings had be creative in their translations.

    And no i am not an atheist, i do not claim that there isn't a possibility in any way that there are deities. I just don't belief there is a God as stated in any religion, as a supernatural immortal person/being who created the entire universe and all that is in it. And that he wants me to live the live he supposedly gave me, by a list of strict rules and that if i don't do that he will send me to hell. But if i do that what is evil, under the supposed influence of the devil, or just because i want to. What makes you think i might not like it in hell.

    And dykes is just a word you came up with because you didn't have a word to translate 'dijken'. It has no relation with lesbian women. Yet another assumption of something you know nothing about. I find it you are a disgrace for the American people, a country with so much possibilities held down by an abnormal sense of nationalism and religious extremists. Religion is something you do for yourself. And respect the people who choose not to believe, they have their reasons too.

    The type of extremism displayed in this thread is very disturbing, this is the same kind of extremism that caused the 11-9 attacks. And also all of the other suicide attacks around the world. And part of the reason why there is a war in Afghanistan as we speak. If you want to live your life by rules stated in a book, wich speaks about a supernatural being who created everything but gave everyone the possibility to do and think what they want. And than still don't let people do or think what they want, and than stating that people who do aren't worthy..It's just like disagreeing with Gods choice to give us that possibility.

    And if Jesus died for our sins, than why are we still all born in sin?

    Well, i hope you all feel good about how you live your respectful lives. And i hope you don't get too disappointed in the end.

    Regards.

    P.S. I read someone telling this site is for showing your love to Jesus...In what way is this topic related to showing how much you love Jesus?

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    Originally Posted by sanderman112
    God must love marihuana because he is the one who made it We should all smoke marihuana

    What scripture backs this up?


    What do you think about the one that says God created everything and everyone in this universe in 6 days.. and on the 7th he rested.. I guess the marijuana plant is considered part of 'everything'

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    • Sander Sittn
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      • Jun 2010
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      #437
      Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

      Originally posted by carrotbird86 View Post
      Okay:
      I am Wilhelmus van Nassouwe
      I have German blood in my veins
      I pay loyalty to my home country
      Till death do us part!
      I think the Orange princes are really brave
      And I honer the king of Spain
      Forever!
      FYI : This is the first verse of the Dutch national anthem

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      • Sander Sittn
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        #438
        Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

        Originally posted by Dirk View Post
        Learn to spell
        i would like to see you type a piece of text like that in Dutch without any mistakes. And i do mean you, and not one of you acquaintances you met while you were in Rotterdam.

        I find it bit childish to say such a thing, rather give a comment about what he says and not how he wrote it.

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        • Sander Sittn
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          #439
          Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

          Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
          No you did not. Maybe you browsed a bit or read a few pages but there is no way you actually read the entire Holy Bible.

          Thank you for confirming for everyone to see that the Dutch are indeed arrogant "know it all"s.

          Unlike you, I based all my statements on facts and supplied reliable sources. All you are doing is stating something vague without any arguments to back it up.
          WE are arrogant?
          arrogant [ˈærəgənt]
          adj
          having or showing an exaggerated opinion of one's own importance, merit, ability, etc.; conceited; overbearingly proud an arrogant teacher an arrogant assumption.

          If we are arrogant, what does it make you? Downright ignorant, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, everything you claim to know about Holland is false..

          And according to your logic all of you True Christians should be in jail.. wrongly accused or not, you should be in there because one of you is.. And because the Judge thought he was a criminal automatically means you are all criminals. Think about that


          Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
          No, they are all 100% accurate.
          This is getting a bit old Cranky Old Man. Most of the statements you make about Holland are partially or completely false..

          If you turn our flag around the pattern changes wich makes it another flag. Your flag is red white and blue because ours is... We basically started your whole nation.. And your now probably gonna say that all i say is false because my sources are all corrupt and your holy (re-re-re-re-re-written) bible is completely true. And probably all the wikipedia sites i visit are also corrupt, and the ones you visit aren't. And why, because you believe you have Jesus on your side..And the fact is that if you believe, you don't know for sure.. Because believe is a doubt...

          There is a word for vrigin..once again it is maagd.

          For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than to Google it for themselves.


          So what if we haven't won a world championship..we did get to the finals lots of times..so we did win something..

          And the people who told the Nazis about the whereabouts of Anne Frank were probably scared. And what do you care anyway, Anne Frank was a Jew.

          German is not exactly like Dutch, and prince Bernhard knew how to speak Dutch as well as how to speak German.. (so do most Dutch people though, as well as that most of us know how to speak English).

          Originally posted by Dirk View Post
          Your people love to come to America so it's the other way around. Don't try to cover up your desire to be in Godly America. We all know you want to, because your hearts tell you to.
          Most people want to go to america because of all the thing you hate.. The big cities and famous restaurants..(Capitalism). They want to see what is left of the Dutch history of america.. And basically because it was a lot cheaper to buy clothes and gadgets in the america because the dollar was nearly worthless.. So we could buy a lot of dollars for only a few Euro's. And i do know that it is different the last few weeks, but that's because of the economical crisis wich the whole world suffers from.

          I really wonder if you ever took the time to look around while you were in Holland..

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          • Cranky Old Man
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            • Jan 2010
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            #440
            Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

            Originally posted by Sander Sittn View Post
            This is getting a bit old Cranky Old Man. Most of the statements you make about Holland are partially or completely false.
            You are mistaken, all my statements are 100% accurate.
            5 Reasons why GOD HATES WOMEN!
            To most "Christians" The Bible is like a license agreement. They just scroll to the bottom and click "I agree". All those "Christians" will burn in Hell!
            James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

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            • Robbie1980
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              • Jun 2010
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              #441
              Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

              Hello everybody,

              As I'm Dutch I just felt the need to offer myself to the people posting in this topic for all questions you have about the Netherlands or Holland, whatever suits you best. It seems there are a lot of false ideas about my beloved country which I would really like to straighten out. Fear not, unlike some other Dutch people in this topic I respect every persons opinion especially if it comes to religion. I have to say, I do not believe in GOD. But I do understand and respect people who are religious. I also respect that people have their own religion. I'm not here to attack your religion. I think by creating this forum it shows you are open to the world and that deserves a compliment. I do hope it is acceptable for you that I registered here only for this discussion. I also hope you will give me the opportunity to proof (using objective sources) that not all of your statements are correct.

              So thank you in advance for giving me the opportunity to mix in the discussion and hopefully I can give you some new insights in as I think a beautiful country.

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              • WinnerNotSinner
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                • Jun 2010
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                #442
                Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

                Originally posted by Robbie1980 View Post
                Hello everybody,

                As I'm Dutch I just felt the need to offer myself to the people posting in this topic for all questions you have about the Netherlands or Holland, whatever suits you best. It seems there are a lot of false ideas about my beloved country which I would really like to straighten out. Fear not, unlike some other Dutch people in this topic I respect every persons opinion especially if it comes to religion. I have to say, I do not believe in GOD. But I do understand and respect people who are religious. I also respect that people have their own religion. I'm not here to attack your religion. I think by creating this forum it shows you are open to the world and that deserves a compliment. I do hope it is acceptable for you that I registered here only for this discussion. I also hope you will give me the opportunity to proof (using objective sources) that not all of your statements are correct.

                So thank you in advance for giving me the opportunity to mix in the discussion and hopefully I can give you some new insights in as I think a beautiful country.
                That's a very agreeable statement, some of your fellow countrymen would do well to follow your calm and humble approach when addressing True Christians™. I feel obliged to tell you though that this is NOT a debate forum, we are just a few friends with the sole objective of praising Jesus.

                What do you feel is wrong about the opening post? Cranky has never made a mistake before. Do you have some scripture we should see?
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                A woman came up to me the other day, 12/6/2016 and said:
                "But Mr. Winner, if GOD loves everyone then why is there so much suffering in the world?"

                Because GOD doesn't love everyone. Too many people have this absurd idea in their heads that GOD is all loving.
                If he was all loving, then murderers, thieves and homosexuals would be waiting for you in Heaven.

                GOD doesn't open his gate to just anyone. Being a True Christian™ is like a Queue Jump ticket at Disney, we are guaranteed a ride with JESUS.

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                • Robbie1980
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                  • Jun 2010
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                  #443
                  Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

                  First let's discuss the usage of Drugs in the Netherlands:

                  I don't know if someone has posted this link yet, but here goes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_po...he_Netherlands

                  As you can see in this article in the Netherlands it is "officially" illegal to posses, produce and off course use any type of drug. However, because drug abuse seems to be an unsolvable issue in the Netherlands and basically it's unsolvable around the world, they came up with a "tolerance policy". This means it is legal to use a small category of "soft" drugs, but only in a selling shop (which are just a few specific coffee shops per region and not in an ordinary store) or at home. All other types of drugs which are not placed in the category of soft drugs are illegal. And you also have to be an adult (in the Netherlands this means at least 18 years of age)

                  I think it was Old Cranky . . . who quoted an article about XTC which stated that Brussels assigned a team of experts who should inspect XTC. First of all Brussels is the capital of Belgium and also the head quarters of the European government. So it's not in the Netherlands and indirectly has something to do with the Netherlands. But the Netherlands is one of the top exporting countries in the world for XTC. I have to say I am ashamed of that. But still it's illegal and it all happens "underground". The production of XTC is one of the top priorities of the Dutch police forces.
                  So in a way Old Cranky . . (sorry I did not yet mesmerize your exact name) has a point looking at XTC. It's something we shouldn't be proud of in the Netherlands. It is illegal but still we are the main producers of it. On the other hand the Netherlands is not tolerant looking at those types of drugs. It is a top priority to ban all types of hard drugs from the Netherlands. But as in any other country in the world, this is a tough battle.

                  I hope you accept my source and my explanation and I do hope you are willing to believe the source and explanation of someone who actually resides in the country you are talking about.

                  If you have any questions or remarks, please post them as I am very willing to answer them.

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                  • Robbie1980
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                    • Jun 2010
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                    #444
                    Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

                    Originally posted by WinnerNotSinner View Post
                    That's a very agreeable statement, some of your fellow countrymen would do well to follow your calm and humble approach when addressing True Christians™. I feel obliged to tell you though that this is NOT a debate forum, we are just a few friends with the sole objective of praising Jesus.

                    What do you feel is wrong about the opening post? Cranky has never made a mistake before. Do you have some scripture we should see?
                    In that case, it is accepted if I just post my knowledge on the subject using objective sources? It is up to you then to keep hold on or change your opinion about the Netherlands. I will try to avoid any form of discussion. Is this acceptable to you?

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                    • Nobar King
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                      • Sep 2007
                      • 23748

                      #445
                      Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

                      How about we talk about the things that True Christians can do to bring the True Word of the Lord and Salvation to the Netherlands?
                      May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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                      • Robbie1980
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                        • Jun 2010
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                        #446
                        Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

                        Originally posted by Nobar King View Post
                        How about we talk about the things that True Christians can do to bring the True Word of the Lord and Salvation to the Netherlands?
                        I think you have to be willing to accept GOD in your life and I'm sorry for you to say that I've put my faith in science and science only. So your words about the Lord would mean nothing to me. But as the Netherlands are a free country and as they are very tolerant towards religion (they really are, but I don't have a source to prove that) I'm pretty sure you should be able to find a lot of souls that are open to the Word you are spreading. But I have to say it's also true that the majority in the Netherlands is in fact an Atheist. (not as large a group Cranky mentioned, but I think it's somewhere around 60%).

                        May I pose a question? How many True Christians are there in America and around the world?

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                        • Nobar King
                          Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
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                          • Sep 2007
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                          #447
                          Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

                          It looks like we have our work cut out for us and lots of opportunities to spread the Word!
                          May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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                          • Robbie1980
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                            • Jun 2010
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                            #448
                            Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

                            Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post
                            9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!


                            Holland is an insignificant country between Turkey and Poland filled with arrogant, bad smelling, cheese gobbling, blunt barbarians who spend all their time whining and complaining. Let’s make this crystal clear: Holland is the filthiest country in the world, bar none. The Dutch will all go to Hell twice.

                            Psalm 63:9 "But those that seek my soul, to destroy it, shall go into the lower parts of the earth."
                            1. The Dutch language is the only language in the world that doesn't have a word for virgin. In a country where drugs, postnatal abortion, gay marriage, prostitution and sex with children are all completely legal, the concept is simply completely unknown. They even have a political party "Christen Unie" which actively promotes sex with children! Psalm 9:17 "... into hell ... all the nations that forget God."
                            Hello Cranky. It seems you did a lot of research, but I do have to address an incorrect link in statement 1. You are referring to the disgusting PVN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_f..._and_Diversity) which is indeed the party who supports sex with children, because they say (please don't laugh) children at a certain age (I think it's twelve) can make their own decisions. I'm happy to say nearly 100% of the Dutch inhabitants disagrees. And nowadays this party does not exist anymore. In the Netherlands there is a constitutional statement, "liberty of speech" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom...he_Netherlands), which is being discussed a lot nowadays. The discussion is about where the freedom of speech ends. At the time this party was founded it was agreed on that it is not illegal to say sex with children is allowed. However (off course) actually having sex with children is illegal. Looking at this a Dutch judge ruled that a political party stating that sex with children should be legal can't be forbidden due to the constitution. (freedom of speech). So sex with children is indeed illegal in the Netherlands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of...pe#Netherlands).

                            But the actual party you are referring to is the PVN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_f..._and_Diversity) and not Christenunie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChristenUnie). And I think you might be interested in this party, SGP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformed_Political_Party), which is more Rerformed than the Christenunie.

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                            • Robbie1980
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                              • Jun 2010
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                              #449
                              Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

                              One small addition. Owning images or videos of children having sex is also illegal as well as watching these images or videos.

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                              • Robbie1980
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                                • Jun 2010
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                                #450
                                Re: 9 Reasons why GOD HATES HOLLAND!

                                One thing I have to agree on is that the Netherlands indeed are an insignificant country thinking they are significant. Although the Netherlands take an important place in history in some periods. But nowadays we are just a small economic partner for countries like America, China, Japan, France, Germany, UK, Russia etcetera.

                                And I found an image for you to check some of the the country flags, may'be it can help you: http://www.mrtyrrell.com/flags_europ..._countries.gif

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