[NotUsingBrain]

Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

What about the Grand Canyon?

This is believed by creationists which means that if someone could not explain why, how, when, then they would think it up themselves. Sadly, all the religions consist mostly of creationism.
When you actually read that article, then you can find one very idiotic sentence: "The evidence does, however, point to Noah’s Flood." After that sentence they couldn't and didn't show any proof.
Also, if I understand correctly, then the Bible says that the great flood reshaped the world. If that did happened then the rocks, mosses ... etc would be less than 10000 years old. However, all the scientific proofs show us that surface and below that is way more older than that.

Fossil dating methods are inaccurate. If you tally up the genealogies in the Bible, you will find that the earth can be no more than 6,000 years old.

Fossil dating methods are actually pretty accurate. It's enough make differences between a 10000 years old fossil and 100000 years old fossil. These fossils are scientifically tested and measured, they can give pretty close date. To your knowledge, 99,(9)% of fossils are older than 10000 years.

If you really believe you're just an animal, stop being a hypocrite and turn yourself in to wildlife services or animal protection or whatever the equivalent is in Finland. Not willing to do that? That's because deep down, you know you're not an animal.

I'm not sure but I think that evolution has not been scientifically proven yet. It's still a theory but let's face it, the evolution is a true story.
And what does Finland have to do in this context?

There are no religions older than ours. Our God created everything. Every other god is a cheap imitation, a counterfeit.

There have been many religions older than Christianity. Christianity, for example, grow out of Judaism. So Christianity is just a rip-off, just like islam and all the newer religions.

God's ways are mysterious. You just have to trust that He knows best.

Signs of creationism. These religious creations don't appear anymore because nowadays we don't have that strict religion than the mankind used to have. Most people couldn't even read books back then. Easy targets for popes and cardinals to brain-wash these people.

We don't pretend that God loves everyone. Suffering and pain came into the world because of Eve's sin. We are all born with a sinful nature and are worthy of God's wrath. What makes you think sinners deserve any good?

I think that your God didn't want torture, blackmail people in the Milddle Ages.

With one exception -- Mary. It wouldn't be miracle if virgins could give birth now, would it?

Indeed, nowadays we have technology for women to become pregnant without having sexual encounter. This technology was developed recently.

If God decided 2 + 2 = 5, you and I would have 5 eyes between us.

If we have decimal system (1, 2, 3, 4, 5....) then this equation is false. There are only 2 ways to make this (2 + 2 = 5) to be true. First one is that we don't have decimal system, we have some kind of other system. The second way is what you referred. If we have a number system like this 1, 2, 3, 5 ..., then this statement is true. However, we are thinking and speaking with the good old decimal system.

You've hit the nail on the head. God doesn't forgive everyone, only those who repent and believe.

See my answer to question 6. Babies are not innocent.

Babies are born dead, with diseases and disabilities because his/her mother had a bad habit (smoking, drinking, drugs, ...), genes malfunctioning (we can't do much to prevent that) or some accident happened to the mother (car crash, fell off the stairs, ...).

This is not the big whammy. Your question doesn't make sense. You're asking if God can do something that He cannot do.

If your God can do anything then tell me, how or why can't he do some things?- yes this sentence seems weird and illogical. But you are a creationist and you should find a "fact" that explains that.

To Rebecca. Of course the Bible is wrong. It was made up by creationists who wanted to manipulate people, torture them and make money out of them. In medieval era these religious guys even sold indulgences in order to let people go to heaven for money.
I'm still not sure if this site is a joke. These people act so seriously that you can't even say that this is a joke. But the facts they are facing makes this site look like a joke.



To Pim Pendergast. I'm not going to write a book about how wrong your statements. Instead of that, explain me, who is theophysicist? You call yourself as PhD theophysicist if you didn't know where I came up with this word...

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: A girl atheist from Estonia's capital, Tallinn

Welcome, Rebecca.

1. There is no Geological proof of the great flood.

What about the Grand Canyon?

2. Adam and Eve could not have existed because fossil records CLEARLY show that dinosaurs and earlier forms of life came 3 BILLION years before humans.

Fossil dating methods are inaccurate. If you tally up the genealogies in the Bible, you will find that the earth can be no more than 6,000 years old.

3. Evolution has shown that we developed from apes, we haven't just stayed the same.

If you really believe you're just an animal, stop being a hypocrite and turn yourself in to wildlife services or animal protection or whatever the equivalent is in Finland. Not willing to do that? That's because deep down, you know you're not an animal.

4. The fact that there are religions older than Christianity, why would Jesus come only recently, when humans have existed for roughly 2 Million years.

There are no religions older than ours. Our God created everything. Every other god is a cheap imitation, a counterfeit.

5. 'Angels' and messengers from God seem to only have appeared 2000 years ago, and very frequently, why don't they anymore?

God's ways are mysterious. You just have to trust that He knows best.

6. There are bad things in the world, why doesn't God stop them, if he loves us with all his heart? Letting someone suffer relentlessly, when you have the power to stop the pain easily, is not love.

We don't pretend that God loves everyone. Suffering and pain came into the world because of Eve's sin. We are all born with a sinful nature and are worthy of God's wrath. What makes you think sinners deserve any good?

7. A woman cannot have a baby and still be a virgin, simple as that.

With one exception -- Mary. It wouldn't be miracle if virgins could give birth now, would it?

8. There are things that ARE impossible, even to God, such as: you cannot add 2 and 2 to equal 198, you cannot take 6 away from 2 without equalling a negative number.

If God decided 2 + 2 = 5, you and I would have 5 eyes between us.

9. If god is so forgiving, why did he create a hell?

You've hit the nail on the head. God doesn't forgive everyone, only those who repent and believe.

10. Why are children born dead, and with diseases and disabilities, they didn't do anything wrong did they?

See my answer to question 6. Babies are not innocent.

Gen 8:21 And the Lord smelled a sweet savour; and the Lord said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

Ps 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Ps 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

Sometimes God hates babies before they're even born.

Rom 9:11-13
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Sometimes God punishes babies for the sins of their parents, such as when David murdered Uriah the Hittite and stole his wife.

2 Sam 12:9 Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the Lord, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife . . .
2 Sam 12:13 And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the Lord. And Nathan said unto David, The Lord also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die.
2 Sam 12:14 Howbeit, because by this deed thou hast given great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme, the child also that is born unto thee shall surely die.
2 Sam 12:15 And Nathan departed unto his house. And the Lord struck the child that Uriah's wife bare unto David, and it was very sick.
[. . .]
2 Sam 12:18a And it came to pass on the seventh day, that the child died.

11. IF GOD CAN DO ANYTHING, CAN HE BUILD A ROCK SO HEAVY, THAT EVEN HE CAN'T CARRY?
To do such a thing is impossible if he can do anything, because if he can't lift the rock, he can't do everything, therefore the Bible is wrong, therefore God is not real.

This is not the big whammy. Your question doesn't make sense. You're asking if God can do something that He cannot do.

[RebeccaReid]

A girl atheist from Estonia's capital, Tallinn

I'm a girl atheist from Estonia's capital Tallinn where our apparently homo-sexual president lives (didn't even know that, since he has an ex-wife, a wife at this point and a few children). I'm an atheist, because I think it's impossible for any god to exist in a heavenly kingdom above the clouds or anything (since I've been above the clouds - didn't see any gods over there). Oh and if anyone could help me the *** expletive *** out here with a list of people/nations/creatures you hate (or you believe "God" hates)?
Oh and I read a post that said that girl atheists have been raped or posessed by satan (?) So if I believe in the scientifical explanation of world's creation, then what? Should I be burned? Like a witch or something?
Oh, and if that wasn't enough, then here:
1. There is no Geological proof of the great flood.

2. Adam and Eve could not have existed because fossil records CLEARLY show that dinosaurs and earlier forms of life came 3 BILLION years before humans.

3. Evolution has shown that we developed from apes, we haven't just stayed the same.

4. The fact that there are religions older than Christianity, why would Jesus come only recently, when humans have existed for roughly 2 Million years.

5. 'Angels' and messengers from God seem to only have appeared 2000 years ago, and very frequently, why don't they anymore?

6. There are bad things in the world, why doesn't God stop them, if he loves us with all his heart? Letting someone suffer relentlessly, when you have the power to stop the pain easily, is not love.

7. A woman cannot have a baby and still be a virgin, simple as that.

8. There are things that ARE impossible, even to God, such as: you cannot add 2 and 2 to equal 198, you cannot take 6 away from 2 without equalling a negative number.

9. If god is so forgiving, why did he create a hell?

10. Why are children born dead, and with diseases and disabilities, they didn't do anything wrong did they?

And if you still are not convinced, here is the big whammy:

11. IF GOD CAN DO ANYTHING, CAN HE BUILD A ROCK SO HEAVY, THAT EVEN HE CAN'T CARRY?
To do such a thing is impossible if he can do anything, because if he can't lift the rock, he can't do everything, therefore the Bible is wrong, therefore God is not real.


Yours doubtfully,
Rebecca

[Alvin Moss]

Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

I registered a user just to say how stupid the people on this site are. What the actual f***? I am offended as an estonian, but I think that you religious fools should be offended even more.

Really? You guys are the biggest bunch of children I have seen. You rely only on what your mama has told you, in your case the bible. You are as prejudice as you can be, putting a mark on a whole country. I can guarantee that the people here(in Estonia, a lot of you didn't understand, im sure) are waaaaay cooler than you. Not because we don't believe in god, but because our vision is not shadowed by some piffleed up and twisted religious views like yours obviously is. What the hell, god loves everyone, still hates Estonia? Your religion tells you to love, instead you preach hate? If I was a moderator or admin or someone I would have this topic deleted the second it was posted because it is a big piffleing anticampaign to your church and religion as a whole. I would never ever join you, because, again, it seems like you have gone mad with this religion, twisted the piffle out of it, and now go crazy over this. If I was to call myself a homo sapiens, a piffleing thinking human, I couldn't be one of you. Of course we are pagans if you christian guys pull (POTTY TALK REMOVED FOR THE SAKE OF DECENCY) like this. If I was to join you guys, I would burn in hell with a bigger chance than if I was serving satan.

Strong language is never welcome.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

I would never ever join you

Yet you just did exactly that.

[Didymus Much]

Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

...god loves everyone...

Says who? They should read the Bible.

...Your religion tells you to love...

And they do. They love people enough to take the time from their busy days to show people why the Bible says they're going to go to Hell. Even Estonians.

...If I was a moderator or admin or someone I would have this topic deleted the second it was posted because it is a big piffleing anticampaign to your church and religion as a whole...

That's because you don't understand True Christianity™. Read the Bible, it will help.

...Of course we are pagans if you christian guys pull shit like this...

So their ignorance and superstition is wrong because your ignorance and superstition is right? How's that work?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

Well that's nice! Welcome to our friendly forums! If you’d be so kind as to introduce yourself, we’d love to greet you properly. Make an Introduction for yourself here. Tell us what church you go to, what your favorite Bible verse is, and how you came to find Jesus in this wicked, dark world. For your convenience, you can read this primer for noobs. If you'd like to share your opinion, kindly provide the Scripture in which the LORD says it first. Please be courteous and mind your manners. If you find something offends you, refer to this helpful essay for advice. Professor Enobarbus explains Landover Baptist's universal declaration of rights on our forum.

[eSAToiAN]

Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

I registered a user just to say how stupid the people on this site are. What the actual f***? I am offended as an estonian, but I think that you religious fools should be offended even more.
Really? You guys are the biggest bunch of children I have seen. You rely only on what your mama has told you, in your case the bible. You are as prejudice as you can be, putting a mark on a whole country. I can guarantee that the people here(in Estonia, a lot of you didn't understand, im sure) are waaaaay cooler than you. Not because we don't believe in god, but because our vision is not shadowed by some fucked up and twisted religious views like yours obviously is. What the hell, god loves everyone, still hates Estonia? Your religion tells you to love, instead you preach hate? If I was a moderator or admin or someone I would have this topic deleted the second it was posted because it is a big fucking anticampaign to your church and religion as a whole. I would never ever join you, because, again, it seems like you have gone mad with this religion, twisted the fuck out of it, and now go crazy over this. If I was to call myself a homo sapiens, a fucking thinking human, I couldn't be one of you. Of course we are pagans if you christian guys pull shit like this. If I was to join you guys, I would burn in hell with a bigger chance than if I was serving satan.

[Basilissa]

Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

What?

Apparently, he saw the Light®, something you could do, too!

I'll pray for you - it seems that my prayers for that other guy worked! Praise !

[NotUsingBrain]

Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

Okay. I repent. Suddenly God touched me and made me cross-reference this glorious web-site with a certain word that made all things clear.

I shall begin the Purification of Estonia immediately. God has also bestowed upon me the title the Reborn High Overlord of the Crusade for Truth. I shall bear this title proudly and start proving my worth right away, my brothers and sisters.

Glory. Faith. Power. Ruthless unmercifulness against the infidels. Amen.

What?

[JustPassingBy]

Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

Okay. I repent. Suddenly God touched me and made me cross-reference this glorious web-site with a certain word that made all things clear.

I shall begin the Purification of Estonia immediately. God has also bestowed upon me the title the Reborn High Overlord of the Crusade for Truth. I shall bear this title proudly and start proving my worth right away, my brothers and sisters.

Glory. Faith. Power. Ruthless unmercifulness against the infidels. Amen.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

I'm using my brain, I don't need some "rules" that are written by people

Yet you agreed to those rules. That does not sound you are using your brain too much. Luckily for you this is most friendly and Godliest forum in internet.

Consider this as a good lesson. There are people out there who are not as nice and good as us. It's easy to scam and fool someone as stupid as you. Remember to read also the small print in future before you agree to something, friend

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

I'm not going to waste my life.

Too late.

[NotUsingBrain]

Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

$5 says HE still hasn't read them.

Son, you have problems with functional reading and logical thinking. What makes you think that I am female lol?

Are you seriously that stupid, that you did not read the Terms of Service before you agreed to them voluntarily?

I'm using my brain, I don't need some "rules" that are written by people who aren't normal. There's nothing to do with my identity or my personal life so I have no point of doing that.
And I'm pretty sure, most of you don't do it aswell because, there are no scriptures, so I can take it as text which has no meaning .

It doesn't matter how often you repeat this to yourself or to others. It will never be true.

It doesn't matter how often you repeat that the Earth is flat to yourself or to others. It isn't and never will be true.




But weird thing is that now I am a "facsist" here. I would understand if Russians called me as fascist, but Americans ... just .... lol. Do you even know what or who fascist is? Is Obama fascist?

[Didymus Much]

Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

It is very unethical to change user's data without asking his permission...

Are you seriously that stupid, that you did not read the Terms of Service before you agreed to them voluntarily?

$5 says she still hasn't read them.