[ScotchHatemonger]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

Yet i'm stuck in this perverted rebellious country, smh.

Jay, God loves you despite your race and where you are from. All you have to do is accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, and ask for grace and forgivness. Moving to Amerca will not make a difference and you are not held accountable for anybody elses sin in Scotland. I pray that you find joy in Scotland and in a Godly and Bible orientated church.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

What is that supposed to mean?

That you are whining about us being intolerant, then you turn right around and hope that we are shut down. Lay off the sauce and then these things will become more clear.

Malachi 1:2-3 declares, “’I have loved you,’” says the LORD. But you ask, 'How have you loved us?' ‘Was not Esau Jacob's brother?’ the LORD says. ‘Yet I have loved Jacob, but Esau I have hated, and I have turned his mountains into a wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals.’” Malachi 1:3 is quoted in Romans 9:10-13, “Not only that, but Rebekah's children had one and the same father, our father Isaac. Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God's purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, ‘The older will serve the younger.’ Just as it is written: ‘Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.’” Why did God love Jacob and hate Esau? If God is love (1 John 4:8), how could He hate anyone?

When studying the Bible, it is critically important to always study the context of a particular Bible verse or passage. In these instances, the prophet Malachi and the apostle Paul are using the name “Esau” to refer to the Edomites, who were the descendants of Esau. Isaac and Rebekah had two sons, Esau and Jacob. God chose Jacob (whom He later renamed “Israel”) to be the father of His chosen people, the Israelites. God rejected Esau (who was also called “Edom”) and did not choose him to be the father of His chosen people. Esau and his descendants, the Edomites, were in many ways blessed by God (Genesis 33:9; Genesis chapter 36).

So, considering the context, God loving Jacob and hating Esau has nothing to do with the human emotions of love and hate. It has everything to do with God choosing one man and his descendants and rejecting another man and his descendants. God chose Abraham out of all the men in the world. The Bible very well could say, “Abraham I loved, and every other man I hated.” God chose Abraham’s son Isaac instead of Abraham’s son Ishmael. The Bible very well could say, “Isaac I loved, and Ishmael I hated.” Romans chapter 9 makes it abundantly clear that loving Jacob and hating Esau was entirely related to which of them God chose. Hundreds of years after Jacob and Esau had died, the Israelites and Edomites became bitter enemies. The Edomites often aided Israel’s enemies in attacks on Israel. Esau’s descendants brought God’s curse upon themselves. Genesis 27:29 tells Israel, “May nations serve you and peoples bow down to you. Be lord over your brothers, and may the sons of your mother bow down to you. May those who curse you be cursed and those who bless you be blessed.”

Nice plagiarism from gotquestions.org.



(Exodus 20:15) "Thou shalt not steal."

YiC,

Zech

[ScotchHatemonger]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

I will be the first to admit I found this online, at least it is the truth. I am fed up of Christians taking a verse and blowing it out of context. The other verses around it actually help everything make sense.

One last thing before you probably ban me, Scottish folk don't marry their sisters, it's illegal

[ScotchHatemonger]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

And I am not English, however God loves them too.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

Malachi 1:2-3 declares, “’I have loved you,’” says the LORD. But you ask, 'How have you loved us?' ‘Was not Esau Jacob's brother?’ the LORD says. ‘Yet I have loved Jacob, but Esau I have hated, and I have turned his mountains into a wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals.’” Malachi 1:3 is quoted in Romans 9:10-13, “Not only that, but Rebekah's children had one and the same father, our father Isaac. Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God's purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, ‘The older will serve the younger.’ Just as it is written: ‘Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.’” Why did God love Jacob and hate Esau? If God is love (1 John 4:8), how could He hate anyone?

When studying the Bible, it is critically important to always study the context of a particular Bible verse or passage. In these instances, the prophet Malachi and the apostle Paul are using the name “Esau” to refer to the Edomites, who were the descendants of Esau. Isaac and Rebekah had two sons, Esau and Jacob. God chose Jacob (whom He later renamed “Israel”) to be the father of His chosen people, the Israelites. God rejected Esau (who was also called “Edom”) and did not choose him to be the father of His chosen people. Esau and his descendants, the Edomites, were in many ways blessed by God (Genesis 33:9; Genesis chapter 36).

So, considering the context, God loving Jacob and hating Esau has nothing to do with the human emotions of love and hate. It has everything to do with God choosing one man and his descendants and rejecting another man and his descendants. God chose Abraham out of all the men in the world. The Bible very well could say, “Abraham I loved, and every other man I hated.” God chose Abraham’s son Isaac instead of Abraham’s son Ishmael. The Bible very well could say, “Isaac I loved, and Ishmael I hated.” Romans chapter 9 makes it abundantly clear that loving Jacob and hating Esau was entirely related to which of them God chose. Hundreds of years after Jacob and Esau had died, the Israelites and Edomites became bitter enemies. The Edomites often aided Israel’s enemies in attacks on Israel. Esau’s descendants brought God’s curse upon themselves. Genesis 27:29 tells Israel, “May nations serve you and peoples bow down to you. Be lord over your brothers, and may the sons of your mother bow down to you. May those who curse you be cursed and those who bless you be blessed.”

God could easily have put all that claptrap in the Bible if that's what He meant. You are the filthy, seed ridden whore of false prophecy. Enjoy Hell.

See Revelation 22:19 and Deuteronomy 4:2 for further details.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

Malachi 1:2-3 declares, “’I have loved you,’” says the LORD. But you ask, 'How have you loved us?' ‘Was not Esau Jacob's brother?’ the LORD says. ‘Yet I have loved Jacob, but Esau I have hated, and I have turned his mountains into a wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals.’” Malachi 1:3 is quoted in Romans 9:10-13, “Not only that, but Rebekah's children had one and the same father, our father Isaac. Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God's purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, ‘The older will serve the younger.’ Just as it is written: ‘Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.’” Why did God love Jacob and hate Esau? If God is love (1 John 4:8), how could He hate anyone?

When studying the Bible, it is critically important to always study the context of a particular Bible verse or passage. In these instances, the prophet Malachi and the apostle Paul are using the name “Esau” to refer to the Edomites, who were the descendants of Esau. Isaac and Rebekah had two sons, Esau and Jacob. God chose Jacob (whom He later renamed “Israel”) to be the father of His chosen people, the Israelites. God rejected Esau (who was also called “Edom”) and did not choose him to be the father of His chosen people. Esau and his descendants, the Edomites, were in many ways blessed by God (Genesis 33:9; Genesis chapter 36).

So, considering the context, God loving Jacob and hating Esau has nothing to do with the human emotions of love and hate. It has everything to do with God choosing one man and his descendants and rejecting another man and his descendants. God chose Abraham out of all the men in the world. The Bible very well could say, “Abraham I loved, and every other man I hated.” God chose Abraham’s son Isaac instead of Abraham’s son Ishmael. The Bible very well could say, “Isaac I loved, and Ishmael I hated.” Romans chapter 9 makes it abundantly clear that loving Jacob and hating Esau was entirely related to which of them God chose. Hundreds of years after Jacob and Esau had died, the Israelites and Edomites became bitter enemies. The Edomites often aided Israel’s enemies in attacks on Israel. Esau’s descendants brought God’s curse upon themselves. Genesis 27:29 tells Israel, “May nations serve you and peoples bow down to you. Be lord over your brothers, and may the sons of your mother bow down to you. May those who curse you be cursed and those who bless you be blessed.”

What you have just done here is interpreted Scripture. You twisted it with your exegetical gymnastics. We don't interpret Scripture on this forum; we just accept what it says at face value. If the Bible says God hated Esau, then God hated Esau. See? That was simple. No interpretation.

The problem is that if Scripture doesn't mean what it says in Rom 9:13, then how are we supposed to trust any other part of the Bible? How then can we trust Lev 20:13, which tells us fags are an abomination? Do you see your problem?

I will be the first to admit I found this online, at least it is the truth. I am fed up of Christians taking a verse and blowing it out of context. The other verses around it actually help everything make sense.

Really?

1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.
3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth; )
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.
27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved:
28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.
30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. — Rom 9

1 The burden of the word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi.
2 I have loved you, saith the Lord. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the Lord: yet I loved Jacob,
3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the Lord of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the Lord hath indignation for ever.
5 And your eyes shall see, and ye shall say, The Lord will be magnified from the border of Israel.
6 A son honoureth his father, and a servant his master: if then I be a father, where is mine honour? and if I be a master, where is my fear? saith the Lord of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. And ye say, Wherein have we despised thy name?
7 Ye offer polluted bread upon mine altar; and ye say, Wherein have we polluted thee? In that ye say, The table of the Lord is contemptible.
8 And if ye offer the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? and if ye offer the lame and sick, is it not evil? offer it now unto thy governor; will he be pleased with thee, or accept thy person? saith the Lord of hosts.
9 And now, I pray you, beseech God that he will be gracious unto us: this hath been by your means: will he regard your persons? saith the Lord of hosts.
10 Who is there even among you that would shut the doors for nought? neither do ye kindle fire on mine altar for nought. I have no pleasure in you, saith the Lord of hosts, neither will I accept an offering at your hand.
11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the Lord of hosts.
12 But ye have profaned it, in that ye say, The table of the Lord is polluted; and the fruit thereof, even his meat, is contemptible.
13 Ye said also, Behold, what a weariness is it! and ye have snuffed at it, saith the Lord of hosts; and ye brought that which was torn, and the lame, and the sick; thus ye brought an offering: should I accept this of your hand? saith the Lord.
14 But cursed be the deceiver, which hath in his flock a male, and voweth, and sacrificeth unto the Lord a corrupt thing: for I am a great King, saith the Lord of hosts, and my name is dreadful among the heathen. — Mal 1

Both passages in context.

[Levi Jones]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

God rejected Esau (who was also called “Edom”) and did not choose him to be the father of His chosen people. Esau and his descendants, the Edomites, were in many ways blessed by God (Genesis 33:9; Genesis chapter 36).

Not only did God not choose Esau, He hated him. Those are God's words.

And in Romans 9, Paul is using it out of context according to your misinterpretation of it.

9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth.
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

Romans 9 is all about God's effectual calling and His sovereign choice of who He will save. It does not change the fact that God hated him and his descendants.

So you would agree that there are people God hates.

[ScotchHatemonger]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

What you have just done here is interpreted Scripture. You twisted it with your exegetical gymnastics. We don't interpret Scripture on this forum; we just accept what it says at face value. If the Bible says God hated Esau, then God hated Esau. See? That was simple. No interpretation.

The problem is that if Scripture doesn't mean what it says in Rom 9:13, then how are we supposed to trust any other part of the Bible? How then can we trust Lev 20:13, which tells us fags are an abomination? Do you see your problem?

Well the Isiah 40:31 says:
They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.

Does this mean that God will give me wings? Does this mean I can run 500 miles and not get tired, does this mean that I can walk from Washington to New York are not be faint?

[Levi Jones]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

Well the Isiah 40:31 says:
They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.

Does this mean that God will give me wings? Does this mean I can run 500 miles and not get tired, does this mean that I can walk from Washington to New York are not be faint?

28 Have you not known?
Have you not heard?
The everlasting God, the Lord,
The Creator of the ends of the earth,
Neither faints nor is weary.
His understanding is unsearchable.
29 He gives power to the weak,
And to those who have no might He increases strength.
30 Even the youths shall faint and be weary,
And the young men shall utterly fall,
31 But those who wait on the Lord
Shall renew their strength;

I'm sure in your mind this means that God didn't really create the heavens and the earth. It means that you need to read it metaphorically. God didn't actually do anything, right? He doesn't really make people stronger, right? It's all metaphorical and open to interpretation after all.

And the entire virgin birth and resurrection? Let's throw that out as being metaphor while we're at it. It really means that Jesus was born of a young woman. He didn't even really exist as a person. I'm sure He was just an ideal or a spirit, right?

It's a slippery slope that leads right to atheism (hell), friend.

[Matthew Hopkins]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

Well the Isiah 40:31 says:
They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.

Does this mean that God will give me wings? Does this mean I can run 500 miles and not get tired, does this mean that I can walk from Washington to New York are not be faint?

It reminds me of a joke I once heard by some big nosed joo:

"What's better than both Proclaimers dying in a car crash?

Only one Proclaimer dying in a car crash."

By the way, why are you, an Englander, trying to pass yourself off as a Scotchman?

The best 'Scotchitude' test I know is as follows:

Why is it a lie to say that all Scotch eat fried Mars Bars, and why do the Scotch all hate Donald Trump?

Answer that, "Scotchman"!

YBIC

[ScotchHatemonger]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

28 Have you not known?
Have you not heard?
The everlasting God, the Lord,
The Creator of the ends of the earth,
Neither faints nor is weary.
His understanding is unsearchable.
29 He gives power to the weak,
And to those who have no might He increases strength.
30 Even the youths shall faint and be weary,
And the young men shall utterly fall,
31 But those who wait on the Lord
Shall renew their strength;

I'm sure in your mind this means that God didn't really create the heavens and the earth. It means that you need to read it metaphorically. God didn't actually do anything, right? He doesn't really make people stronger, right? It's all metaphorical and open to interpretation after all.

And the entire virgin birth and resurrection? Let's throw that out as being metaphor while we're at it. It really means that Jesus was born of a young woman. He didn't even really exist as a person. I'm sure He was just an ideal or a spirit, right?

It's a slippery slope that leads right to atheism (hell), friend.

I am confused with your strange reply?

I am a born again Christian who at a young age accepted Jesus. I believe he is the creator of all things, and I believe he created heaven. How dare you determine whether I am going to hell or not. Only God knows my heart, not some American 1000 miles overseas who has never met me.

This forum is sick, deluded and messes with your head. It upsets me to see this forum exists and tolerates hatred.

I can only pray that the Lord deals with this website, I pray that you will be convicted and you will seek his forgiveness, so he can be glorified and not hated by any non-believers who come across this forum.

[Matthew Hopkins]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

I am confused with your strange reply?

I am a born again Heathen who at a young age accepted Satan as my master. I believe he is the creator of all things, and I believe he created hell, which I am looking forward to. How dare you determine whether I am going to heaven or not. Only Beelzebub knows my heart, not some American 1000 miles overseas who has never met me or my limp handshake.

This forum scares me, I am deluded and I want to mess with your head. It upsets me to see this forum exists and I cannot tolerate how you can see through my transparent veneer.

I can only pray that the Evil One deals with this website, I pray that you will be converted to Satan and you will kneel to him, so he can be glorified and not hated by any non-believers in donkey piffling who come across this forum.

Fixed that for you, friend.

YBIC

[Levi Jones]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

I am confused with your strange reply?

I'm not surprised you are confused, friend.

I am a born again Christian who at a young age accepted Jesus. I believe he is the creator of all things, and I believe he created heaven.

Then, why are you attempting to tell us how to "interpret" God's Word? Why are you claiming that God's hate does not extend to people?

How dare you determine whether I am going to hell or not. Only God knows my heart, not some American 1000 miles overseas who has never met me.

Friend, we are merely attempting to deliver you Scotch a warning from God. Have you never read the story of Jonah and how he was instructed to deliver a message to the people of Nineveh? It's no different here.

This forum is sick, deluded and messes with your head. It upsets me to see this forum exists and tolerates hatred.

We don't hate anyone. If anything we love too much by trying to warn people of their impending demise at our God's angry and jealous hand that is stretched forth still.

I can only pray that the Lord deals with this website,

I tell you what, Angus. You keep praying that God "deals" with us and I'll pray that we get to keep preaching His message. Let's see which of our prayers He answers. If He answers mine, you'll know I'm right and vice versa if He kills us all or sees fit to strike our servers with lightening, we'll know you were right.

Let us begin praying, okay?

[Didymus Much]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

...This forum is a disgrace to the Christian faith and should not be tollerated. I can't wait until it goes down!

Forget about waiting, you can help!

All you have to do is Prove that gingers have souls!

[Bjorn Jensen]

Re: GOD HATES SCOTLAND !

These cross-dressers can't even speak proper English