[Brother Harold Porter]

Brothers,

He makes a lot of sense here. I might agree that "rape is awful" if a betrothed wife was raped, without her permission. But that's beside the point.

But if a rape produces a child for Jesus Christ, it is a wonderful thing. Could be the next Joel Osteen or Pat Robertson!

"Republican state lawmaker in West Virginia said on Thursday that while rape is horrible, it’s “beautiful” that a child could be produced in the attack.

According to Huffington Post, Charleston Gazette reporter David Gutman was on the scene when Delegate Brian Kurcaba ® said, “Obviously rape is awful,” but “What is beautiful is the child that could come from this.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/02/west...duces-a-child/

[Beatrice Little]

Mr Porter, I have to agree. I was raped and it was horrible, even though I'd deserved it by dressing like a slut. But my 14 month old Matty has to be the best gift from God that I could ever have.

[Brother Harold Porter]

Originally Posted by Beatrice Little

Mr Porter, I have to agree. I was raped and it was horrible, even though I'd deserved it by dressing like a slut. But my 14 month old Matty has to be the best gift from God that I could ever have.

You are on the right track, as Jesus tells us through His Apostle Paul.

1 Timothy 2:15 "Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety."

The importance of this verse is your salvation. Provocation and the slutty stuff aside. Bad choices, i know a lot about them.

From here on, will you focus on your faith and holiness? Your charity and sobriety?

In my prayers, young one.

In Christ

[Elmer G. White]

Dear Brother Harold,

I have no objections to your irrefutable logic regarding the fruits of forced fornication. However, I am a weak man (Jesus is my only strength) and for the past couple of decades of my marriage I have found the actual act of all fornication distasteful and I find it very hard to perceive the act of (un)forced entry beautiful, as the actual physiological act is most repulsive and painful for me... I have filled my duty with 5 offspring and 2 future incubators and I do still engage in marital duties now and then around the time of my wife's ovulation (I am expecting menopause any month now; that, or rapture, whichever comes first).

Acts 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

1 Corinthians 6:18
Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.

What should I do? Is it adequate to find the beauty in the fulfillment of God's command to multiply (Genesis 1:28) in either consensual of forced fornicatory acts or should I also try to find the aesthetics of the actual act of conjugal relations? Good is good and the method of procreation He ordered upon us after the Fall must also be good regardless of the (in)voluntary nature of it. I am convinced that all this will be crystal clear once in heaven but I am afraid that the monthly act of intercourse (that does feel like rape targeted at me) is draining me of my strength that could be better used spreading the gospel instead of the legs of my spouse.

I am comforted by the fact that Jesus is the great carpenter who formed us and He can do no wrong!


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Every cloud has its silver lining, but this is true of rape more than anything! If it had not been for rape, the Bible could not have been written, since the importance of rape in the establishment of Israel is an indispensable theme of its teaching. The Gospel would not have unfolded the way it did if not for many rape babies which populated Judah by that time. While rape itself is not always great, at least it produces children, which is more than I can say for gay sex. In fact, I really hate the way they lube up their genitals and shave their netherregions, just to achieve genital/prostate stimulation and blow their seed aimlessly all over each other's anuses. I hate that.

[James Hutchins]

Now, I am not a woman and cannot fathom the utter absurd empty headed thoughts they have so bear with me. From what I have seen, all women want to be wanted and desired (I have no answer for this). So it seems to me, the ultimate compliment you could give to a female is to rape her the very second the urge strikes. Show her how much her flaunting of her whorishness has affected you.
If Jesus cares about her, He will enable the female to have a baby in her womb. Again, proof that God wants her.
So the way I see it, you are giving a female the chance to be wanted by God. No where in the Bible does it tell me to block a females opportunity to have God care about her.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by Billy Bob Jenkins

If it had not been for rape, the Bible could not have been written, since the importance of rape in the establishment of Israel is an indispensable theme of its teaching.

What an insightful post, Brother. Why, from the very symbolic rape of Adam's rib cage begetting the Woman Eve, to the unsolicited advancements of the Holy Ghost onto a young, conveniently ovulating Mary begetting the Christ, surprise sex and unsolicited gifts of one Love Child after another has been a part of God's Plan all along!

Biblically speaking, there is no such thing as "marital rape". In the Scriptures, the only way rape occurs is if a man forces himself on a woman who is not his property (not his wife, or concubine). A man’s wives, his concubines (slave wives taken as captives of war or bought) could be made to have sex with him, no questions asked.

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Considering a standard way to obtain a wife in Bible Times was through surprise sex (Numbers 31:7-16; Deuteronomy 20:10-14; 21:10-14; 22:28-29; Judges 5:30; 21:10-24), and purchased sex (Exodus 21:7-11), and even God Almighty Himself Personally took wives this way (Numbers 31:17-18), it is clear that God has ordained this process to be as celebrated and enjoyed as bridal showers and bachelor parties!

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[Cranky Old Man]

I think the word "rape" should be removed from the English language. The word is not even in the Bible so clearly it couldn't be less relevant.




I think "rape" was invented by sluts as a horrible way to blame innocent men for being seduced by sluts. While it is true that slut seduction may result in a baby for Jesus, the poor man will be scarred for life and be forced to marry the slut (Deuteronomy 22:28-29).

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Those are some good points, Cranky. I personally think rape sounds like an awful lot of hassle to achieve something that used to come quite naturally for men of God: total domination of women. It seems likely that a man would lose his erection or that some semen would be lost during a rape, making it difficult to produce little Christian soldiers. But I suppose the occasional pregnancy through rape makes it all worthwhile. That is, if pregnancy is even possible via legitimate rape.

[Nobar King]

There is a good and bad side to everything, it just depends on your perspective.

[Witch Hammer]

The only "ugly" kind of rape is the kind that produces an uppity mulatto brat!

Imagine the horror of having to sell your daughter to the coon that raped her! Does anyone know if there is a "Food Stamps to Shekels" currency converter for such a scenario?

[IMightHasAIDS]

This is disgusting. Forcing a woman to sleep with you is terrible and if you rape you will be sent to hell. A woman in America has the right to dress as she wants. In no instance is it the victims fault. I agree that life itself is beautiful and children are an amazing gift to the world but it is cruel to make a woman carry a child without her concent

[Alvin Moss]

Originally Posted by ThisWebsiteHasAIDS

This is disgusting. Forcing a woman to sleep with you is terrible and if you rape you will be sent to hell. A woman in America has the right to dress as she wants. In no instance is it the victims fault. I agree that life itself is beautiful and children are an amazing gift to the world but it is cruel to make a woman carry a child without her concent

You are very rude and aggressive. If you are here to seek congress with Jesus and His people, then welcome and please introduce yourself. If you are here to join in attacks on Christians, then do your worst. We will be rewarded in Heaven for putting up with your abuse.

[Pim Pendergast]

Originally Posted by ThisWebsiteHasAIDS

In no instance is it the victims fault.

That's not what the Bible says. It would be the victim's fault if she was raped in a city an no one rescued her.

Deut 22:23-24 If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.

I agree that life itself is beautiful and children are an amazing gift to the world but it is cruel to make a woman carry a child without her concent.

One Godly Texan lawmaker is trying to pass a law requiring women to carry dead fetuses to term. Glory!

Now how about head over to the introduction forum and tell us why you haven't accepted Jesus as your personal Savior.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Pim Pendergast

That's not what the Bible says. It would be the victim's fault if she was raped in a city an no one rescued her.

Deut 22:23-24 If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.



One Godly Texan lawmaker is trying to pass a law requiring women to carry dead fetuses to term. Glory!

Now how about head over to the introduction forum and tell us why you haven't accepted Jesus as your personal Savior.

Can you imagine if the ancient Hebrews treated rape the way modern people do? There would be nothing stopping women from getting raped just for kicks. And that's what it has become. Women wearing short skirts and forcing men to rape them. Since we no longer force women to marry their rapists either, it is like sex with no strings attached.

[Cranky Old Man]

Originally Posted by ThisWebsiteHasAIDS

if you rape you will be sent to hell

No. God's punishment for rape is that the rapist has to marry his "victim". (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)

A woman in America has the right to dress as she wants.

That's not the point. The point is that if you dress like a slut, you will get "raped" and it will all be your own fault. That's the problem with our youth nowadays, they refuse to take responsibility for their own actions.

it is cruel to make a woman carry a child without her concent

And killing an unborn child is not cruel!? You are a horrible person and you make me sick!

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Nobar King

There is a good and bad side to everything, it just depends on your perspective.

It is important that we as Christians remain open minded.

[Titus Templeton]

I bet atheists and liberals would even call the pregnancy of Mary "rape" because she didn't know what was going on.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Titus Templeton

I bet atheists and liberals would even call the pregnancy of Mary "rape" because she didn't know what was going on.

Excellent point, brother. Can you imagine if God had stopped to ask Mary for her consent before impregnating her? Satan could have won!

[Jim Farmer]

That's right! These atheists and lieberals would have put God in prison for years and years! What would have happened without Him around?