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Default A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 06-12-2009, 08:59 PM

As a True Christian, I expect to be provided a wholesome alternative to everything that offends me so I can still enjoy it without offending CHRIST.

I have my own Christian movie collection (I just bought another copy of "Fireproof" as Mrs. Fore wore out the previous one!), I have my Christian music collection, and my Christian book collection. I also have a Christian board game collection that includes such titles as "Bibleopoly" and "Journey to Canaan." (Such fun!)

I was reading my Chick tracts the other day when I found an old copy of the one dear Mr. Chick wrote about the role-playing board game "Dungeons and Dragons." I became even more outraged than usual when I realized that we have no Christian alternative to this hellish game!

If the devil can use "Dungeons and Dragons" to lure people into the occult, couldn't GOD use "Saviors and Sinners" to lure people into glory?

In "Saviors and Sinners" you could create your own evangelist character that moves around the board saving as many souls as he can. He could have special skills like Hellfire Sermonizing to reach especially vile sinners, throwing skills to stone unrepentent homosexuals, and detect mix fabrics, to tell if anybody nearby is wearing mixed fabrics. (Deut. 22:11)

I think this kind of game would really appeal to the kids and get them excited for CHRIST! Who can we boycott/petition to get this game made?



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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 06-12-2009, 09:24 PM

Praise sweet Jesus for this divinely inspired idea, Brother Bob! I would be more than happy to develop this idea with you. If we implement it properly, it could make us filthy rich....

Uh, I mean filthy rich in the Kingdom of God after we die.

Here are some ideas...
We could have various attributes, such as Biblical Knowledge, Witnessing, Temptation Resistance, etc. You design your character around what kind of role-playing Christian you will be. Will you be a strong, silent, knowledgeable type that prays to God everyday? Or will you be a social, evangelizing preacher? Will you play a faithful and devoted housewife who listens to her husband, or will you play the loving and protective husband who has discipline her sometimes for her own good?

The possibilities are endless! Let's start brainstorming people! Brother Bob has got a million-dollar-idea, million-soul-saving-idea on his hand!



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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 06-12-2009, 09:35 PM

My only real concern is who would officiate over the game? I know that in "Dungeons and Dragons" there is a person obscenely called the 'dungeon master.' But how could we have an officiator over the game without committing blasphemy? We can't call the moderator GOD, because only GOD is GOD.

Maybe he could be called the 'Senior Pastor'?



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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 06-12-2009, 09:39 PM

Excellent idea! I volunteer to help. Perhaps "Guardian angel" for a title?


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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 06-12-2009, 09:48 PM

They use sinful dice in the game Dungeons and Dragons.

Instead of using those, would it be possible to use facsimiles of the Urim and Thummim?

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They use sinful dice in the game Dungeons and Dragons.

Instead of using those, would it be possible to use facsimiles of the Urim and Thummim?

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That's an important point. Using dice may lure unsuspecting young Christians to stop tithing and instead spend that money at those sordid "craps" tables. (They call that game that name for a reason!)

Gambling addiction is a horrible sin and is underreported in the media. During my heyday as a televangelist for PTL, I went to Caesar's Palace in Vegas with the misguided intention of taking my faithful flock's tithe money and doubling it at the craps tables. Needless to say, I was wiped clean. That and I had some money I owed to the Mafia just compounded the problem even worse.

Anyways, instead of using Dice, how about each player gets asked a series of 10 random Biblical questions. The amount they get right determines their roll. So, if they answer 7/10 it would be equal to rolling a 7, without these Christians being led astray into the seedy underworld of gambling addiction.



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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 06-12-2009, 10:07 PM

I would suggest using a spinner instead of dice, but that might encourage people to play Roulette. How about we have the players keep a Bible nearby, and when it's their turn, they flip to a random page in the Bible, and whatever the number of the book of the Bible they've turned to is, that's what their 'roll' is.



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I would suggest using a spinner instead of dice, but that might encourage people to play Roulette. How about we have the players keep a Bible nearby, and when it's their turn, they flip to a random page in the Bible, and whatever the number of the book of the Bible they've turned to is, that's what their 'roll' is.
I like the intention behind it Brother Bob, but that is treading into the dangerous waters of numerology and bibliomancy.

Surely we could not use a spinner either, as you said, it will lead others to play Roulette, another bad game. The depravity of that game is just immeasurable! I'm not stretching the truth when I say I once lost a whole Porsche 911 Turbo on a single spin.



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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 08-03-2009, 09:29 AM

Not to be nit-picky, but Dungeons and Dragons isn't a "board game" its a "table top" game, which uses mats, dice, markers, and erasers...
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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 08-03-2009, 05:46 PM

Instead of ungodly dice or spinners, why not use divine inspiration? Let God speak to players about how many spaces they should move. Glory!
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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 08-07-2009, 03:49 AM

I think it is possible to play a True Christian campaign in 4th edition Dungeons and Dragons if a few rules are set in place:

1. Players may not play Arcane or Primal classes, as these classes may too closely resemble Wiccans/Pagans for True Christians.

2. Divine characters are permissible, but only if they serve God.

3. All martial classes may be played, as they have no magical abilities.

4. Players may not choose evil alignments for their characters.

The campaign could focus on players slaying the forces of hell, rescuing a captured Christian from imprisonment by Satanists, locating ancient Christian writings, or whatever you can think of.
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Is there a D&D module made for Christians?


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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 08-07-2009, 04:17 AM

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I have heard nothing about Wizards of the Coast producing any Christian adventure modules, as their sourcebooks contain descriptions of real gods. However, there is no reason for a Christian game master to simply say that these gods do not exist and that player characters may serve only God.

I have not seen any third-party Christian modules for 4th edition, yet that may be simply due to the fact that 4th edition is relatively new. I would recommend 4th edition for a Christian D&D campaign, as the power sources of the classes are easier to understand and determine if God would choose certain classes as champions or not.
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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 08-07-2009, 04:20 AM

In response to my last post: I am unsure why the gods made up by Wizards of the Coast were edited to be written as real, as I have not heard of anyone in real life worshiping them. I doubt any level-headed person would claim to be a priest of Pelor or Erathis in real life.
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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 08-07-2009, 04:23 AM

Stormblade, the main problem with D&D is that it is the gateway to the occult. It primes young teenagers for a life of wicca and Satanism. They learn to do spells and worship demons. After a while they crave for a more real experience so they move on from the RPG and to joining actual witch covens and Satanic lodges. There's also the well-documented history of teenagers being led to horrific crimes after playing too much D&D.



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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 08-07-2009, 05:19 AM

While D&D may be considered a gateway to the occult, I think it is the nature of the individual that predisposes him or her to seeking out more occult-based knowledge. Sure, D&D contains descriptions of demons, but these are presented mainly as foes for the player characters to defeat. For spells, the instruction amounts to rolling a die and seeing the result if the die roll is a success or failure. I doubt that information can be used to cast a real spell.

In 4th edition, worship of the evil gods is not detailed in the Player's Handbook (the book players use to create their characters), as players are encouraged to worship nonevil gods, and worship of evil gods is generally only for villains who are to be defeated by the players. Furthermore, 3rd and 4th editions have encouraged players to avoid evil alignments entirely. This may have to do with D&D coming under fire due to some of the crimes committed by players who wanted to act out evil in real life.

D&D is just a roleplaying game. If a person roleplays an evil D&D character and decides to do something evil in real life, that person is likely to have had mental issues prior to starting D&D. I don't think the actions of a few socially maladjusted teens should prevent True Christian gamers from enjoying a D&D campaign, especially if they can do so without compromising their faith.
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What are you avoiding? Shouldn't you be trying to find a date or something?


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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 08-07-2009, 05:33 AM

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What are you avoiding? Shouldn't you be trying to find a date or something?
I'm not avoiding anything at the moment, just explaining how D&D could possibly be adapted to fit True Christian gaming styles. I hope my suggestions have been helpful.
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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 08-07-2009, 05:52 AM

Then how do you know so much about it if you're not spending all day playing a witchcraft simulator?


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Default Re: A Christian alternative to "Dungeons and Dragons"? - 08-07-2009, 06:03 AM

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Then how do you know so much about it if you're not spending all day playing a witchcraft simulator?
I've been playing on and off for four years. I don't play all day, usually a few hours per week, if at all. Also I play a lawful good human fighter, a physical combat specialist with no magical abilities.
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