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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 08-27-2010, 04:54 AM

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I have no idea why this new "friend" was gossiping about her. Obviously she isn't a good friend.
Or maybe she is a good friend, warning her real friends that this girl is a whore. If I may quote from earlier in this thread:

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You people had better start reading the Bible a bit more often. It isn't the girl's choice. If the man liked it when he "went in unto her" and pays the father, she belongs to him. He has no obligation to marry her. If he didn't enjoy the experience, he can case her aside. The woman is then a whore and must be stoned for whoredom.
As Deuteronomy 22:23-29 pretty clearly state, the rapist dies in all situations unless he marries the virgin he raped, and pays her father off. The second guy dies no question. So unless the two lovebirds get married, it's another Biblical situation where everybody winsdies.


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Exclamation Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 08-27-2010, 04:11 PM

My friend wanted to know if its cool if he gets his ins with her in the meantime?

I mean, she's just going to waste until the courtcase doodz.

One serious issue...

HOW THE piffle, can you seriously talk about people like that?
You can't pay for people.
Maybe that's why you bible piffles are so messed up?
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 08-27-2010, 04:24 PM

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My friend wanted to know if its cool if he gets his ins with her in the meantime?

I mean, she's just going to waste until the courtcase doodz.

One serious issue...

HOW THE piffle, can you seriously talk about people like that?
You can't pay for people.
Maybe that's why you bible piffles are so messed up?
And you post here with the name "Fags Love God". You insult everyone and then demand they act reasonable. The word useless, self obsessed asshole not worthy of respect comes to mind.



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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 08-27-2010, 07:44 PM

I think he also wanted to tell God that he is in the possesion of Fagslove. Quick, we shall purge him with the Cross!
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 09-12-2010, 08:58 AM

Just a quick update to a post I noticed earlier in the thread
Spot silver NY closed week @ $19.48oz so 50 silver shekels should be $347·20

I gather that only a single rapee (i.e. neither engaged nor married) is obliged to marry and that subsequent divorce is impossible. verses 28 & 29 whereas an engaged rapee would just be killed outright? verses 23 & 24
Could one of the gentlemen confirm whether this is correct, please, as there seems to be come confusion throughout the thread.
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Lightbulb Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 09-23-2010, 09:42 PM

SMH, Where you getting your understanding from, Deuteronomy 22:28-29 is talking about 2 people that have MUTUALLY decided to sleep with each other!!??!!

The scriptures that refers to rape is Deuteronomy 22:25-27, But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.
26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:
27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.

She is NOT bound to that man, in such cases?!!??
Thats why not just anyone should speak on behalf of God, YOU don't know what the edomite you talking about. Stop your madness!!!!
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SMH, Where you getting your understanding from, Deuteronomy 22:28-29 is talking about 2 people that have MUTUALLY decided to sleep with each other!!??!!
Pray tell what does this have to do with consensual sex?
Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
We maybe a tad out of fashion here in Iowa but "lay hold" doesn't imply "she agrees to,..". That sounds like rape and historically it has been interpreted to refer to rape.



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Pray tell what does this have to do with consensual sex?
Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
We maybe a tad out of fashion here in Iowa but "lay hold" doesn't imply "she agrees to,..". That sounds like rape and historically it has been interpreted to refer to rape.
Not to mention:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (King James Version)

If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

He hath humbled her. She's damaged goods now. She didn't humble herself, it was done to her. By him. That's why he is now responsible for her for the rest of her life.

I swear, Bobby-Joe, these trolls don't even have high school reading comprehension, do they?

He also failed to note that Deuteronomy 22:28-29 refers to a virgin WHO IS NOT BETROTHED (that is, has not been pre-sold to a husband), while Deuteronomy 22:25-27 (and the preceding "in the city" verses) refers to a virgin who IS BETROTHED (that is, the property of a husband).

When the unsold virgin loses her virginity, only her father is harmed. Therefore, he must be compensated for his loss.

When the SOLD virgin loses her virginity to someone other than her husband, her husband is harmed, and he may demand his money back from her father. Thus, two men are harmed. Given the frequent use of arranged marriages to cement bonds between families in that time, more than a few coins could be at stake; peace between rivals, business relations, and more could be at risk!


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I swear, Bobby-Joe, these trolls don't even have high school reading comprehension, do they?
Or any knowledge of history. Historical anti-rape laws have hinged upon whether a woman called out for help or not while assaulted. It was assumed she wasn't capable of resiting a man since a woman is so physically weak, scattered brained and lust crazed.



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Pray tell what does this have to do with consensual sex?
Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
We maybe a tad out of fashion here in Iowa but "lay hold" doesn't imply "she agrees to,..". That sounds like rape and historically it has been interpreted to refer to rape.
Most likely, this 'n00b' is trying to weasal out of some horrific act she commited. Typical slut.


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 09-24-2010, 06:14 PM

My husband and I have a two-month old daughter. If she was raped, are you saying that, that is my child's fault? That she seduced the man into loving her and taking her innocence? I'm sorry but is that what you are telling me? That is pure insanity,because nobody on God's earth should suffer such a thing, no man, woman or child.
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My husband and I have a two-month old daughter. If she was raped, are you saying that, that is my child's fault? That she seduced the man into loving her and taking her innocence? I'm sorry but is that what you are telling me? That is pure insanity,because nobody on God's earth should suffer such a thing, no man, woman or child.
If your two month old daughter were raped, I'd say unless it were by an unfortunately-endowed man, your daughter would probably be dead.

Now, if you mean if she's raped when she's old enough to survive the experience, then it may or may not be her fault. Perhaps she is dressing like a harlot and flirting with men and going out unescorted. This is one of the few things the Muslims have right; dressing like a whore ready to be used (showing off one's figure, wearing short skirts, etc.) arouses uncontrollable lusts in men, and women should avoid this at all costs.

More important than fault is the Biblical consequences:

If she is betrothed (that is, "engaged", or pre-sold by her father) to a man and raped in the city, and doesn't cry out, then she is to be put to death, along with the man.

If she is betrothed and raped in the country, since nobody can hear her, only the man is to be put to death.

If she is NOT betrothed and raped anywhere, then the man must compensate your husband for the loss of his daughter's virginity, and he must then marry her, and cannot divorce her but must take care of her for the rest of her life.


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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 09-24-2010, 06:43 PM

What if the woman is modest in her behavior and clothing and still is raped? She prays regularly,always attends church, bible study, even studies on her own, abides to the laws of God to the very best she can. Does she still deserve to be raped?
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 09-24-2010, 06:44 PM

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What if the woman is modest in her behavior and clothing and still is raped? She prays regularly,always attends church, bible study, even studies on her own, abides to the laws of God to the very best she can. Does she still deserve to be raped?
She still was, and the proper Biblical handling of the situation is outlined above.

This thread is about what to do if a daughter refuses to marry her rapist, not whose fault it was that she incited uncontrollable lust in a helpless man.


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If my daughter was ever of age and she was raped I'd kill the man. Plain and simple. Or any man for that fact that thinks just because they are bigger and stronger that they have the right to take what they want from a woman. And if men are suppose to be stronger than a woman why is it rapists are such weak willed men that give in to temptation? Should they not pray and ask God to stop them from committing such an immoral act?
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If my daughter was ever of age and she was raped I'd kill the man. Plain and simple. Or any man for that fact that thinks just because they are bigger and stronger that they have the right to take what they want from a woman. And if men are suppose to be stronger than a woman why is it rapists are such weak willed men that give in to temptation? Should they not pray and ask God to stop them from committing such an immoral act?
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If my daughter was ever of age and she was raped I'd kill the man. Plain and simple. Or any man for that fact that thinks just because they are bigger and stronger that they have the right to take what they want from a woman. And if men are suppose to be stronger than a woman why is it rapists are such weak willed men that give in to temptation? Should they not pray and ask God to stop them from committing such an immoral act?
Then you're not a Christian. That's not how God wants us to behave.

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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 10-16-2010, 06:29 PM

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Let me pose a few questions and then respond to them.
Q. Why does a girl dress like a slut?
A. Because she wants to be raped.

Q. Who's fault is it she was raped?
A. Hers. She was looking for it.

Q. If she wanted to get raped, is it really rape?
A. Yes, of the poor fellow.

Q. How could the fellow be the victim?
A. Because he was coerced into doing something he did not want to do.

What we end up with is a woman with child, a child who might not have a father. A woman who has been violated and my end up being a whore. Finally, we have the poor fellow who is attacked and traumatized for simply trying to add to God's Army.

So many of the FemNazi's in the world always say it is the mans fault, that the man is stronger and can over power the woman. Well, why do you think God made man stronger? It is the same reason he made man smarter. It is the natural order of things.
so let me get this straight.God made men stronger so they can rape women?right
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Default Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist? - 10-16-2010, 06:44 PM

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I'll ignore your hurtful, untrue insults, and focus on your bolded words. We do have to force the girl to marry her rapist, as that is, according to the Bible, the required punishment of said rapist.

Indeed, such punishment may seem cruel, but the LORD really does know best, dear.
i dnt think u will ever have to worry about getting raped sweetheart.unless your hanging with some of the good revrends here
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