[Russell Holbeck]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SOCCER!

Not to mention, it quite frankly doesn't matter to anyone here but God what church I go to, how I came to salvation etc. I'm sorry that I can't sit here and patronize you. As a Christian, I will think for myself, and take the bible, the WHOLE bible. I won't cherry pick out certain parts that sound good, and leave out parts that sound "harsh". I have my opinion on things, much like you. When I came on here I wasn't rude, I simply presented my point of view. I'm not the one acting rude on here.

Hello I'mforgivin.

You have not supported anything you have posted with Scripture.

Thank you.

Rusty

[I'mforgivin]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SOCCER!

Read 1 John 4: 9-11. Just as Christ loved us, so must we love others. That's what I'm trying to get at here... We MUST love others, even sinners. Jesus changed people through LOVE, not hate.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SOCCER!

Read 1 John 4: 9-11. Just as Christ loved us, so must we love others. That's what I'm trying to get at here... We MUST love others, even sinners.

1 Jn 4:11 Beloved, if God so loved us [Christians], we [Christians] ought also to love one another [fellow Christians].

We only need to love our brothers and sisters in Christ. See this sermon: Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love? It is well-supported by Scripture, unlike your claim.

Jesus changed people through LOVE, not hate.

Jesus, who is God, has plenty of hate.

Lev 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

Lev 26:30 And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.

Deut 32:19 And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.

Ps 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Ps 5:6 Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man.

Ps 10:3 For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth.

Ps 11:5 The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Ps 53:5 There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee: thou hast put them to shame, because God hath despised them.

Ps 73:20 As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image.

Ps 78:59 When God heard this, he was wroth, and greatly abhorred Israel:

Ps 106:40 Therefore was the wrath of the LORD kindled against his people, insomuch that he abhorred his own inheritance.

Prov 6:16-19 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Prov 22:14 The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.

Lam 2:6 And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.

Hos 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

Am 5:21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.

Zec 11:8 Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.

Mal 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

Rom 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

Rev 2:6; 15 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.

[Russell Holbeck]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SOCCER!

Read 1 John 4: 9-11. Just as Christ loved us, so must we love others. That's what I'm trying to get at here... We MUST love others, even sinners. Jesus changed people through LOVE, not hate.

Hello I'mforgivin.

That is not what 1 John 4:9-11 says it really says:

In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

People who do not love Jesus like Muslims and Jews and Hindus and Catholics and Presbyterians and Wiccans and people who participate in homosexual acts and people who believe in astrology and all of this is covered in John 3:16-18 but people just don't read it.

Thank you.

Rusty

[I'mforgivin]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SOCCER!

I don't share your point of view . Nowhere in the bible does it say " LOVE ONLY CHRISTIANS AND HATE ALL SINNERS". Show me even ONE piece of scripture that says this and I will take back everything I've said, because I am certain that the bible is being read out of context. Now that I think about it, it makes zero sense that God loves only Christians, and that we're only supposed to love other Christians. If all you can come up with is scripture on hate hate hate, and leave out absolutely everything else in the scripture, that is the finest example of cherry picking I've ever seen

[Didymus Much]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SOCCER!

And how dare you call gay people trash...

That's what the Bible considers them. Jesus called people "vipers" and "dogs" when they didn't agree with what He said.

Jesus is impolite. Deal with it.

...And while god finds homosexuality detestable, he still made those people. He didn't make them gay, but he made those people in his own image...

Proverbs 16:4 "The Lord hath made all things for himself: Yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."

So if, as you claim, "the wicked" are in the image of God, then you're claiming that God is wicked.

...So you're just calling Gods' creation trash...

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

God says (in the Bible) that He makes evil, and He calls it evil. You, on the other hand, call what God has said is evil "good".

...And we're all sinners, no matter what...

You and I may be, but the True Christians™ aren't. As a matter of fact,

True Christians are Perfect!

...We are supposed to be the lords shining light in this dark world...

You? The Lord's shining light?

You can't even stop sinning yourself. What kind of example are you supposed to be?

...Lets go into the world and Gods word of salvation

Derr, wuh?

[I'mforgivin]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SOCCER!

You still haven't shown me any piece of scripture that says " God love ONLY Christians , and we must also love ONLY Christians, and we must hate everyone else

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SOCCER!

I don't share your point of view . Nowhere in the bible does it say " LOVE ONLY CHRISTIANS AND HATE ALL SINNERS". Show me even ONE piece of scripture that says this and I will take back everything I've said

Please read Pastor's sermon here to answer your question:

Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

[I'mforgivin]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SOCCER!

Um Mary why don't you read John 3:16? " for God so loved the WORLD that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life".

Nowhere here does the verse say " for God so loved only Christians ...

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SOCCER!

Um Mary why don't you read John 3:16? " for God so loved the WORLD that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life".

Nowhere here does the verse say " for God so loved only Christians ...

If you believe He is the Saviour(tm) of mankind and the Son of God you are a Christian.

If you don't you get to roast in the Lake of Fire.

What part of "whoever believes in Him" do you take to include people who don't believe in Him (i.e. heathen, unSaved(r) scum)?

YIC

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SOCCER!

Um Mary why don't you read John 3:16? " for God so loved the WORLD that he gave his one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life".

Nowhere here does the verse say " for God so loved only Christians ...

A) In the next breath, John 3:18, the Bible tells us anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus is condemned (keep in mind, believing that Jesus exists doesn't qualify one for His unconditional love: John 14:23). He can love them all He wants as He drop kicks them straight to Hell, then laughs and laughs and laughs (Psalm 2:4)! Praise God!

2). Read your Bible, dear. You'll see just how many people God specifically mentions He hates. Here's a few examples:

"And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you:
for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them."
Leviticus 20:23

"And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images,
and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols,
and my soul shall abhor you."
Leviticus 26:30

"And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them,
because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters."
Deuteronomy 32:19

"The foolish shall not stand in thy sight:
thou hatest all workers of iniquity."
Psalm 5:5

"Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing:
the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man."
Psalm 5:6

"For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous,
whom the LORD abhorreth."
Psalm 10:3

"The LORD trieth the righteous:
but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth."
Psalm 11:5

[I'mforgivin]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SOCCER!

Matthew 5 : 43 " you have heard that it was said, ' love your neighbor and hate your enemy .' But I tell you : love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect."

Jesus

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Matthew 5 : 43 " you have heard that it was said, ' love your neighbor and hate your enemy .' But I tell you : love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect."

Jesus

Let's use the real Bible, shall we?

Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Matthew 5:43-48

You're not my enemy, dear. You're Jesus' enemy (Luke 11:23).

[I'mforgivin]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SOCCER!

I never said I was your enemy, but nice trying to twist my words there. And if you think you can intimidate me by giving me 40 infraction points , you're mistaken.

[Didymus Much]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES SOCCER!

...And if you think you can intimidate me by giving me 40 infraction points , you're mistaken.

She's trying to show you how you are misreading the Scripture (and endangering your eternal soul by doing so), and you snipe back at her?

Proverbs 8:13 "The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: Pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, And the froward mouth, do I hate."