[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

I'm saying that humans are capable of making independent choices.

And exactly who granted us those capabilities? God Almighty, that's who!

Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace

We are "predestinated" to be redeemed through His blood, because it was "the pleasure of His will". You are a deluded demon, because your father is satan.

[Brother Samuel]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

They want your money, the more of it the better.

They try to convince you that anyone who disagrees with their pov is your enemy.

They withdraw from society at large, sometimes going as far as building gated compounds to contain their members.

You must realize that God rewards those that obey his Word and are diligent.


Hebrews 11:6 "But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him."

You see? You could have the exact same earthly and monetary rewards if you become a True Christian. I warn you though, do not persist in your sinful ways, debating if Christianity is "right for me". Jesus is returning to Earth soon to reclaim those few True Christians who are left and if you're not one of them, he's going to drop kick your unsaved butt right into the flaming pits of hell.

Psalm 9:17 "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God."

I suggest you talk to one of the Pastors quick about purchasing the plan of salvation. Maybe in your sorry condition they'll consider giving you a small discount.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

I'm saying that humans are capable of making independent choices.

Certainly.

You may independently choose to love and follow and obey Jesus, or independently choose to spend eternity shrieking in undescribable torment.

[OpiatedEnnui]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

And exactly who granted us those capabilities? God Almighty, that's who!

It doesn't matter who or why we are capable of making our own choices, it only matters THAT we can, because of that no god has direct control over what a human choses to do. In your case that means that a war that is not fought by 'True Christians' is not the will of god, outside nations taking advantage over that, is not the will of god, and the suffering caused by those choices is also not the will of god. Now, helping others apparently also is not the will of god but, if I recall correctly, neither is building a church.

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

It doesn't matter who or why we are capable of making our own choices, it only matters THAT we can, because of that no god has direct control over what a human choses to do. In your case that means that a war that is not fought by 'True Christians' is not the will of god, outside nations taking advantage over that, is not the will of god, and the suffering caused by those choices is also not the will of god. Now, helping others apparently also is not the will of god but, if I recall correctly, neither is building a church.

Actually, everything that happens is the will of God. Either He causes it, or He allows it.

Why is that so hard to grasp?

[OpiatedEnnui]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

Actually, everything that happens is the will of God. Either He causes it, or He allows it.

Why is that so hard to grasp?

You just agreed that humans are capable of independent choice.

Certainly.

You may independently choose to love and follow and obey Jesus, or independently choose to spend eternity shrieking in undescribable torment.

[PsychopathicRyda]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

Landover Baptist Church is not a cult. It is a fraud. The paypal button is there so they can steal your money. They should be jailed.

[Sista Lateefah]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

Landover Baptist Church is not a cult. It is a fraud. The paypal button is there so they can steal your money. They should be jailed.

Take yo hate speech elsewhere. If someone freely give something to you (like a love gift), that do not in any way be stealing. And the LORD command folk to tithe in His Word. If they wantsa tithe to a True Christian™ Church, what be wrong with that?

[OnYourKnees]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

Landover Baptist Church is not a cult. It is a fraud. The paypal button is there so they can steal your money. They should be jailed.

How dare you say such things! Landover Baptist Church's Godly Forum is every bit as real as the Love of Jesus and the Fires of Hell!

We speak only the Truth about God and Jesus, telling people like YOU what the Bible really says (instead of Pastor Feelgood's lies), and this is the thanks we get?

I defy you to find any instance where we have been dishonest about God's Word! (You won't.)

Perhaps you need to do a little Bible study before you start making accusations! You can find out just how far off you really are from knowing God's Word by taking a few Bible quizzes at www.landoverbaptist.org/quizlist.html.

[Alley_Cat777 (On Moderation)]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

Freehold must die! Allah commands it! You must tell me were is Freehold so I can kill many Christian babies for Allah!

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

Freehold must die! Allah commands it! You must tell me were is Freehold so I can kill many Christian babies for Allah!.

Wonder all you want Mr Terrorist. We know all about you plot to blow up our church Mr Bin Ladin.

[Sailor Chaos (On Moderation)]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

I'm afraid to answer the question...

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

I'm afraid to answer the question...

What's so scary about just saying "NO"?

[Sailor Chaos (On Moderation)]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

Hehehe. Ok...

[meshif]

Re: Is Landover Baptist Church a CULT?

Let's start by saying I'm a proud atheist. Now That out of the way...as soon as I saw this thread I had to read it. Yea...you're not a cult :S. Anyways...some stuff YOU said got me thinking and here's my thoughts:

1.

Originally Posted by OnYourKnees
As can be plainly seen by a review of this eight-point "warning list" for destructive cults, Landover Baptist Church fits NO definition of a cult whatsoever!

OK so you're not a destructive cult but...

The Merriam-Webster online dictionary lists five different meanings of the word "cult":
1. Formal religious veneration
2. A system of religious beliefs and ritual; also: its body of adherents;
3. A religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also: its body of adherents;
4. A system for the cure of disease based on dogma set forth by its promulgator;
5. Great devotion to a person, idea, object, movement, or work (as a film or book).

Number 1,2,3 and especially 5 sure do sound like you.
And in the same post:

stop complaining that your aged parents gave Landover "your" inheritance. (Did YOU earn it? No, I didn't think so. GOD did.)

god earned my parents money? I don't think so...they did. And wt* does "god" need money for anyways? I thought he has "the whole world in his hand"

2.

Originally Posted by OpaitedEnnui

Originally Posted by OnYourKnees
It's a church.

Actually, THE church, unless you've run across another which follows all of God's Word.

Good point ... the one down the street said they follow the word of God, hmm but the one across town said the same.

Same story here. They ALL follow the word of god I think. Isn't that what they do?

3.

Originally Posted by Phoenix Risen

Originally Posted by OnYourKnees
Kindly back up your statement with a characteristic of a cult that you see demonstrated at Landover, along with a reference to the cult characteristics list where you find that trait.

They want your money, the more of it the better.

They try to convince you that anyone who disagrees with their pov is your enemy.

They withdraw from society at large, sometimes going as far as building gated compounds to contain their members.

Amen brother

4.

Originally Posted by Bobby-Joe

Originally Posted by Phoenix Risen
They want your money, the more of it the better.

I don’t want you money, Jesus does.

jesus? The superficial being in the heavens? wt* does he want my money for???

5.

Originally Posted by SalvationSeeker
Also, do keep in mind that sister Lateefah is a woman and thus more confused and less intelligent than most men

sexism?

6.

Originally Posted by OpaitedEnnui
Do you have any idea what it meas to say that everything is the will of god?

In your eyes then Hitler wasn't a crazed psychopath, the people involved with 9/11 weren't terrorists, that p***k that shot up Virginia Tech wasn't a complete loon? You consider them saints ...

Originally Posted by OnYourKnees
Are you calling God impotent?

lmao i don't see that or any reference to it. Where do you get that? Or is it more sexism...the harder the d**k the more power you have?

7.

Originally Posted by PsycopathicRyda
Landover Baptist Church is not a cult. It is a fraud. The paypal button is there so they can steal your money. They should be jailed.

Again...amen brother

8.

Originally Posted by OnYourKnees
Perhaps you need to do a little Bible study before you start making accusations! You can find out just how far off you really are from knowing God's Word by taking a few Bible quizzes at www.landoverbaptist.org/quizlist.html

Yea I checked them out...you seem to be a little off from reality

9.
Also at the bottom of your forum pages:

To assure that you get full credit for your donation in Heaven, giving to the Landover Baptist Church or forum thereof is not tax-deductible on earth and will secure you no worldly (ascertainable, material) gain. As Godly Christians, we intend to take over this country and do not constitute a charity. You agree that we make no representations to induce you to donate a love offering!

As godly christians you're gonna take over the world? Doesn't god teach peace and acceptance of others despite their physical and spiritual differences?
You guys are right ****ed up if you ask me. And I know you didn't and wouldn't so don't point that out. Like I said...I saw this site and it "spoke to me"

LMFAO peace out

-meshif