[snottyduck]

Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ?

So, Mr. Duck, first you say that sexual relations with young girls is perfectly normal, then you say that because we've adopted "modern", secular and anti-God lifestyles that it is no longer normal, and those who do what you JUST SAID IS NORMAL for humans should be CASTRATED?!

What sort of sick monster are you?

If you had any brains you would have understand that throughout history things change, the average life expectancy of people in the middle ages was about 35 years so they had the tendency to marry younger. As the average life expectancy of today is around 75 years of age it only normal that people marry later then they did in the middle ages.

[Trent Harvey, Jr.]

Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ?

If you had any brains you would have understand that throughout history things change, the average life expectancy of people in the middle ages was about 35 years so they had the tendency to marry younger. As the average life expectancy of today is around 75 years of age it only normal that people marry later then they did in the middle ages.

Ignoring what I've just taught you about averages, what's your opinion on Africans marrying 12-year-olds? Remember, the average life expectancy is low in Africa, probably as low or lower than during Roman times.

[Joh]

Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ?

It dosn't have anything to do with low life expetancy. Besides, that whole ida has no supportin the bible, in fact it's opposite from what the bible teaches. pople bfor the flood lived hundreds of yars, than God dcleared that man will live no longer than 120 years. there is no evidence for people living only to 35 years, furthermore the bible says opposite. whn Isaac married rbekah, he was 40 and he was a virgin, yet he lived to be close to a hundred and so did she. In psalm david said that the "days of our lives are 70, and at most 80 years. As chrsitians, you can't impose scientific discoveries to oppose what the bible explicity says. ignore the bible and heed to man-made concepts is wrong.

[JawOfAnAss]

Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ?

In this modern perverted mess of an "education" sysem, most twelve year old girls can't even spell "pedophile" let alone understand the concepts.
As soon as they become with child and under the stewardship of a Godly (knows when to bitch-slap her) man, the better life gets.

Better to marry at 12 than be this:

Prov 9:
[13] A foolish woman is clamourous: she is simple, and knoweth nothing

[JennyD]

Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ?

If you had any brains you would have understand that throughout history things change, the average life expectancy of people in the middle ages was about 35 years so they had the tendency to marry younger. As the average life expectancy of today is around 75 years of age it only normal that people marry later then they did in the middle ages.

So you're saying, as Rodimer pointed out, that what is normal in another time or culture (like today's Africans, as Mr. Harvey pointed out) is a sickness worthy of castration in Western society.

I think he's right, and you ARE a sick monster.

Sister SUV, how's that annulment coming along?

[Pastor Rune Enoe]

Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ?

It dosn't have anything to do with low life expetancy. Besides, that whole ida has no supportin the bible, in fact it's opposite from what the bible teaches. pople bfor the flood lived hundreds of yars, than God dcleared that man will live no longer than 120 years. there is no evidence for people living only to 35 years, furthermore the bible says opposite. whn Isaac married rbekah, he was 40 and he was a virgin, yet he lived to be close to a hundred and so did she. In psalm david said that the "days of our lives are 70, and at most 80 years. As chrsitians, you can't impose scientific discoveries to oppose what the bible explicity says. ignore the bible and heed to man-made concepts is wrong.

Nonsense. I've just explained to you, why pedophilia is wrong, wrong, wrong. In fact I have purchased a number of these stickers and I will be posting them on the local Catlick church doors.

That will teach those pedo padres some decency.

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ?

I don't think you people understand, I said, "where" does the bible speak against pedophilia ? I couldn't care less about what people think about it, I want to know what the bible says about it.

The Bible does not mention pedophilia. There was no need to do so, for adultery, fornication, and lasciviousness are prohibited multiple times in the Bible. My favorites are Proverbs 6:32:

But whoso committeth adultery with a woman lacketh understanding: he that doeth it destroyeth his own soul....

And Galatians 5:19:

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness....

Click the links above if you want to see a long list of applicable verses. If you're asking whether pedophilia is somehow worse than other kinds of adultery and fornication, the answer is, not to God. Either one gets you doomed to exactly the same Hell. I don't see how we can make this point any clearer.

[StarrKingGrad]

Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ?

I see what the misunderstanding is. Is marriage made official by God, or by the state? Seeing as Adam and Eve did not have any government to make their marriage official, I'll say that true marriage is only that which is legitimate in the eyes of God.

If true marriage were actually determined by government, that would make gay marriages legal in the eyes of God, which they are not.

I hate to do this, but as a Christian Man I must correct you here, sister. To disobey the law is to commit the sin of disobedience, not fornification.

1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man.

Romans 13:1-2 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers.

Jeb, Jeb, Jeb, what are we to do with you? If civil authorities cannot determine whether marriages are legitimate, then there is no reason to support the so-called Defense of Marriage Act or Constitutional amendments to ban gay marriage, is there?

Of course, you can't really believe that, since, where gay marriage is the law of the land, 1 Peter 2:13 and Romans 13:1-2 clearly force you to recognize it as legitimate, lest you commit the sin of disobedience. Every ordinance means every ordinance, not just the ones that you like. In fact, if we extend the Romans 13 quote a few verses, we can clearly see that all laws are approved by God, and resistance to them is evil in the sight of the Lord:

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same...

So suck it up, render onto Caesar, and congratulate some gay newlyweds. It's what Jesus would want you to do.

[God'sservant]

Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ?

Hello, Joh.
These passages from our Holy Bible can help you.

And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites ... And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males ... And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones ... And Moses was wroth with the officers ... And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Numbers 31:1-18
When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it ... And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword: But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself. Deuteronomy 20:10-14
How shall we do for wives for them that remain, seeing we have sworn by the LORD that we will not give them of our daughters to wives? ... And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children. And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man. And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh. Judges 21:7-11
Go and lie in wait in the vineyards; And see, and, behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to dance in dances, then come ye out of the vineyards, and catch you every man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh ... And the children of Benjamin did so, and took them wives, according to their number, of them that danced, whom they caught. Judges 21:20-23

[Didymus Much]

Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ?

Hello, Joh...

5 1/2 years has to be close to the record for necroposting on this forum. Congrats?

Why not head on over to the Introductions Forum and make your own thread (please follow the instructions the admins have cleverly concealed at the top of every page there) so the True Christians™ so can discern whether you're trash™ or Treasure™?

[Dissily Mordentroge Waiting for Email Confirmation]

Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ?

Sadly thus far this discussion reminds me of Thessalonians 2:11.
Can we pause for a moment and think about the particular focus some forms of Christianity have in worship. Take for instance Rome's almost obsessive worship of an image of an almost naked man nailed to a cross by his father. If we accept one form of trinitarian theology this constitutes a form of sado-masochism as we are asked to believe God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are one. Add to this the assertion the Creator gave humanity free will and accept God's omniscience and we're left with some very disturbing moral questions.
My main point though is to ask is there anything about particular forms of worship and their imposition on young minds that could be not only attracting pedophiles to the priesthood but inducing thoughts of father/son abuse as justifiable in the long term.

[Levi Jones]

Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ?

Sadly thus far this discussion reminds me of Thessalonians 2:11.
Can we pause for a moment and think about the particular focus some forms of Christianity have in worship. Take for instance Rome's almost obsessive worship of an image of an almost naked man nailed to a cross by his father. If we accept one form of trinitarian theology this constitutes a form of sado-masochism as we are asked to believe God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are one. Add to this the assertion the Creator gave humanity free will and accept God's omniscience and we're left with some very disturbing moral questions.
My main point though is to ask is there anything about particular forms of worship and their imposition on young minds that could be not only attracting pedophiles to the priesthood but inducing thoughts of father/son abuse as justifiable in the long term.

Your points are well thought out and decent about the Catholic Church. The naked man they worship is making the priests gay.



Welcome!

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: where does the bible speak against pedophilia ?

Your points are well thought out and decent about the Catholic Church. The naked man they worship is making the priests gay.

Indeed. It should come as no surprise that their traditional attire is essentially ball gowns for men.

Welcome!

Ditto!