Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

**BelieverInGod** · 03-03-2013, 10:39 PM

Re: Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

Well the good people at Consumer Freedom have this to say about the evils of "reusable bags"

New Survey: Majority of Consumers Unaware of Excessive Lead and Bacteria Levels in Reusable Bags

http://www.consumerfreedom.com/2011/03/343-new-survey-majority-of-consumers-unaware-of-excessive-lead-and-bacteria-levels-in-reusable-bags/

Today, the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) released findings from a new survey that found an overwhelming majority of Americans are not at all aware of the health concerns, such as excessive levels of lead and harmful bacteria, lurking…

New Survey: Majority of Consumers Unaware of Excessive Lead and Bacteria Levels in Reusable Bags

Today, the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) released findings from a new survey that found an overwhelming majority of Americans are not at all aware of the health concerns, such as excessive levels of lead and harmful bacteria, lurking in their fabric-like, polypropylene reusable bags. The national poll, commissioned by CCF and conducted by Opinion Research Corporation (ORC), also finds that 67% of reusable bag owners do not regularly wash their bags, allowing bacteria like E.coli and fecal coliform to grow inside.
The poll also found that 78% of those who use reusable bags on a regular basis, do so because they believe “they are better for the environment.” However, new findings from the Environment Agency of England show a reusable bag has to be used 11 times to have a lower global warming potential than a plastic bag if it is not reused. If a plastic bag is reused for household purposes like lining a trash can or cleaning up after the dog – as 93% of those polled claim they reuse their bags for – a polypropylene reusable bag would have to be reused 26 times to equal the low environmental impact of one plastic bag.
What the Environment Agency study doesn’t take into account are the amount of resources used when reusable bags are washed, which is vital to keeping the bags safe and clean. According to ORC’s polling, 53% of Americans are unaware of high levels of bacteria found in some reusable bags, which is probably why more than half of the people who do their grocery shopping with reusable bags do not regularly wash them. This is despite the fact that a recent study from the University of Arizona found that more than half of the bags tested came up positive for coliform, while 11 percent tested positive for E. coli.
“Americans have been goaded into using reusable bags by green activist groups and lawmakers with a belief that they are better for the environment and safer for consumers, but in reality it is much more complicated,” said J. Justin Wilson, CCF’s Senior Research Analyst. “Policies that would tax or ban plastic bags are just another example of politicians and activists hastily pushing feel-good measures that create a myriad of unintended consequences.”

So it seems that the liebrals are out to poison our families once again.

On the other hand they make plastic bags so cheaply now, you can't make it out to the car without them tearing and dumping your groceries on the ground.

So I've made my own out of bleachable canvas.

**Pastor Ezekiel** · 03-03-2013, 11:55 PM

Re: Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

Trust me, before long the demoncrats will be forcing us to carry their shopping bags.

**august** · 03-05-2013, 03:17 AM

Re: Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post

Well the good people at Consumer Freedom have this to say about the evils of "reusable bags"

New Survey: Majority of Consumers Unaware of Excessive Lead and Bacteria Levels in Reusable Bags

http://www.consumerfreedom.com/2011/03/343-new-survey-majority-of-consumers-unaware-of-excessive-lead-and-bacteria-levels-in-reusable-bags/

Today, the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) released findings from a new survey that found an overwhelming majority of Americans are not at all aware of the health concerns, such as excessive levels of lead and harmful bacteria, lurking…

So it seems that the liebrals are out to poison our families once again.

On the other hand they make plastic bags so cheaply now, you can't make it out to the car without them tearing and dumping your groceries on the ground.

So I've made my own out of bleachable canvas.

Now I'm completely confused. I used them but I admit I don't wash them. Maybe I'll start washing them now. But then I could use plastic ones to line trash cans instead of buying separate trash can liners.

**BelieverInGod** · 03-05-2013, 03:31 AM

Re: Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

Originally posted by august View Post

Now I'm completely confused. I used them but I admit I don't wash them. Maybe I'll start washing them now. But then I could use plastic ones to line trash cans instead of buying separate trash can liners.

Most of the so called "green movement" is just busy work for you while the powers that be do whatever it is they do.

Yes, I too used to use the plastic bags as trash liners, but as I said, now they can't make it to the car with your groceries without falling apart. So, like you, I have to buy separate trash liners.

I would use plastic bags if they were available. Ask for paper and they just stare at you like your speaking a foreign language. So I sewed up some good canvas bags for myself.

**Nobar King** · 03-05-2013, 03:38 AM

Re: Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

Consumers Unaware of Excessive Lead

I read the story several times and there was nothing about lead in reusable bags. Did they just throw that in there to scare people?

**BelieverInGod** · 03-05-2013, 04:13 AM

Re: Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

Originally posted by Nobar King View Post

I read the story several times and there was nothing about lead in reusable bags. Did they just throw that in there to scare people?

From one of their own liebral sources

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/wilderness-resources/stories/lead-in-reusable-grocery-bags-prompts-senator-to-call-fo-0

Some sites seem to say 10% of the bags have lead, others say up to 25% of the bags out there have lead.

But of course because they're "green" it's a magic lead that won't do any harm. Not like the lead in gasoline or in paint. That's the "evil" lead.

Sorry - we can't find that page

http://www.cbc.ca/news/story/2010/11/15/con-plastic-bag-contamination.html

**Pastor Ezekiel** · 03-05-2013, 04:24 AM

Re: Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

Anything that's "green" is in fact, communistic.

**Nobar King** · 03-05-2013, 04:28 AM

Re: Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

I know how people are getting all this crap on to their re-usable bags. They're tossing them in to the back of the car where the dog rides and tracks all kinds of fecal matter. I can't imagine why anyone would let their dog ride in their car, much less sit on the sofa or the bed. Dogs belong in the back of a pickup truck or outside in a dog house.

Just because your dog licks his nuts all the time doesn't mean he's clean. When you let your dog out to take a crap he kicks it all around with his paws and then comes running back inside to track that shit all over your house.

**~~Paragon of virtue~~** · 03-05-2013, 05:35 AM

Re: Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

I would also point out that getting bags that will last over and over again puts you in league with Satan himself.

Isaiah 14:14

By choosing bags that can be used indefinitely, you are in fact making the claim that you are immortal, and that is a claim that God alone can make.

Psalm 144:4

I Corinthians 15:22

No, my friends, we should not mock God by investing our treasure in things that will last us 'forever' because we don't have 'forever'. When we use disposable plastic and paper bags we are showing the Lord that we understand that we are finite beings that are not long for this world.

**BelieverInGod** · 03-05-2013, 08:11 AM

Re: Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

Originally posted by Paragon of virtue View Post

I would also point out that getting bags that will last over and over again puts you in league with Satan himself.

Isaiah 14:14

By choosing bags that can be used indefinitely, you are in fact making the claim that you are immortal, and that is a claim that God alone can make.

Psalm 144:4

I Corinthians 15:22

No, my friends, we should not mock God by investing our treasure in things that will last us 'forever' because we don't have 'forever'. When we use disposable plastic and paper bags we are showing the Lord that we understand that we are finite beings that are not long for this world.

I have no problem with using plastic bags. I DO have a problem with stores charging for them and the fact that they're so thin that they fall apart before you can get across the parking lot without your groceries ending up all over the ground.

Is there a way to get the stores to go back to using "Good" plastic bags? Or should we use garbage bags?

**lukasekman** · 03-05-2013, 01:19 PM

Re: Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

Plastic bags are made of oil, which is a natural product that God have given us. Oil have no negative effects on the environment or health. Plastic bags are also an excellent fuel for heating and cooking.

Reusable bags are just more job, compare waste separation. The green movement is an extension of the Keynesian/Kenyan economic ideas of making people busy with non-productive tasks to distract them from Jesus.

**Cranky Old Man** · 03-05-2013, 03:16 PM

Re: Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

Recycling is clearly for America hating hippies. Let them practice recycling by eating their own poop to punish them for voting for Obama.

I never trusted plastic bags though, as the Bible doesn't mentions them. If a wicker basket was good enough for Mozes, it's good enough for my groceries.

**~~TheWaySatanMakeMeFeel~~** · 03-09-2013, 09:38 PM

Re: Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

Originally posted by Cranky Old Man View Post

Recycling is clearly for America hating hippies. Let them practice recycling by eating their own poop to punish them for voting for Obama.

I never trusted plastic bags though, as the Bible doesn't mentions them. If a wicker basket was good enough for Mozes, it's good enough for my groceries.

Of course Bible don't talk about them, because they don't exist 2000 years ago, and we must recycle, this world is really damaged thanks to some people irresponsability, natural resources are not eternal and we need to be responsable with them

Remember that God created plants, animals and human beings to live together, we must learn to respect this world He created, if we don't stop throwing garbage, firing forests or destroying plants we'll finally stop existing. Religion should be the major reason to protect the enviroment, because is one of the biggest treasures we have, apart from our lives

**Basilissa** · 03-09-2013, 10:20 PM

Re: Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

Originally posted by TheWayYouMakeMeFeel View Post

Remember that God created plants, animals and human beings to live together, we must learn to respect this world He created, if we don't stop throwing garbage, firing forests or destroying plants we'll finally stop existing. Religion should be the major reason to protect the enviroment, because is one of the biggest treasures we have, apart from our lives

Could you back up your claims with some appropriate quotes from the Bible? Because I don't see anything about "respecting" there:

Genesis 2:28: "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

Reusable Shopping Bags: Environmentally Responsible, or Sinful Idolatry?

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