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  • God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

    Friends, there's a lot of talk about the Laws of Leviticus being barbaric, but no True Christian™ will agree. We may not understand everything God does or tells us to do, but we should obey. God's Law is inerrant and timeless, it rarely gets repealed, though we fallible humans may have other thoughts they are not as magnificent or, all-encompassing, as those of God.

    In the following case, there is plenty of proof that God spoke directly to John Joe Thomas, who is a devout Christian, and told him that stoning an abomination to death was still the right thing to do.

    I'm obviously intrigued that stoning here should mean "A Sock full of Rocks". My understanding was that a stoning would take place with many freely thrown, heavy, sharp rocks. But, in view of the fact that there is scientific proof that God's Voice was heard, I am willing to believe that this is an acceptable method.

    It is significant that that it all took place in Philadelphia - God is adding to his affirming message - He wants us to know what He means by "Brotherly Love".

    Cops: Man stoned to death for gay advances
    70-year-old victim was beaten with a sock full of rocks

    A 28-year-old man has been charged with murder after telling police that he stoned a 70-year-old man to death for making homosexual advances toward him, authorities say.

    John Joe Thomas, 28, of Sunshine Road in Upper Darby, spent almost every day with 70-year-old Murray Seidman at Seidman’s Lansdowne home, police say. Days before Seidman’s body was found on Jan. 12, Thomas allegedly beat Seidman to death with a sock full of rocks.

    Thomas reportedly told authorities that he read in the Old Testament that homosexuals should be stoned to death. When Seidman allegedly made homosexual advances toward him over a period of time, Thomas said he received a message in his prayers that he must end Seidman’s life, according to court documents.

    Police say that Thomas struck Seidman in the head about 10 times with the sock of rocks. Thomas left Seidman dead in his apartment, and then threw his bloody clothing and the bloody sock in a dumpster, according to authorities.

    Though the relationship is still unknown, Thomas was the sole executor of Seidman's will and knew how much money was in Seidman's bank accounts, police say.

    Thomas told police that he returned to Seidman’s apartment several days later on Jan. 12 to make it appear like he just discovered the body.

    When police arrived, they found Thomas crying in the hallway of the apartment building saying, “I’m not going down there again. There is too much blood.”

    Police found dried blood spatter on the living room floor, walls, and furniture. Seidman’s body was laying face down on the living room floor, police said.

    According to Delaware County Medical Examiner Fredric Hellman, Seidman died of multiple blunt force trauma. He said Seidman had been dead between five and 10 days before police found the body.

    Thomas is being held on first-degree murder charges.
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    Re: God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

    Your saying that murdering someone was acceptable? I know (and all of you should know) that the 10 commandments clearly state that murder is wrong. Problem? Your OKing murder! Please rethink your logic my friend!

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      Re: God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

      Originally posted by devin1992 View Post
      Your OKing murder! Please rethink your logic my friend!
      You truly are a cherry-picking fool, aren't you.

      How the heaven can you mistake this for murder? This is clearly passing God's will on the sinner.

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        Re: God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

        Originally posted by Alphonse Alban View Post
        You truly are a cherry-picking fool, aren't you.

        How the heaven can you mistake this for murder? This is clearly passing God's will on the sinner.

        You shall have no other gods before me.

        You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

        You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

        Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

        Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

        You shall not murder.

        You shall not commit adultery.

        You shall not steal.

        You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

        You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.


        May i point out number 6. Problem? Your excusing murder. Murder is a sinner. Your supporting sin. Sin is corrupt and you people here seem to be big on destruction and eternal damnation of the corrupt and ungodly. And since you support murder, which is a sin, which makes you corrupt and ungodly, that means you should be damed to hell. Problem?

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          Re: God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

          Originally posted by devin1992 View Post
          May i point out number 6. Problem? Your excusing murder. Murder is a sinner. Your supporting sin. Sin is corrupt and you people here seem to be big on destruction and eternal damnation of the corrupt and ungodly. And since you support murder, which is a sin, which makes you corrupt and ungodly, that means you should be damed to hell. Problem?
          How can it be murder if God commands it? The Bible prescribes death for the following transgressions.

          Murder
          Adultery
          Bestiality both person and beast have to die.
          Rape
          Engaging in homosexual sex
          Picking up sticks on Saturday
          A betrothed woman who does not cry out while being raped
          A woman who is found not to have been a virgin on the night of her wedding
          Worshiping other gods
          Witchcraft (Exodus 22:18)
          Taking God's name in vain or cursing God's name
          Cursing a parent
          Kidnapping
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            Re: God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

            Originally posted by Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson View Post
            How can it be murder if God commands it? The Bible prescribes death for the following transgressions.

            Murder
            Adultery
            Bestiality both person and beast have to die.
            Rape
            Engaging in homosexual sex
            Picking up sticks on Saturday
            A betrothed woman who does not cry out while being raped
            A woman who is found not to have been a virgin on the night of her wedding
            Worshiping other gods
            Witchcraft (Exodus 22:18)
            Taking God's name in vain or cursing God's name
            Cursing a parent
            Kidnapping

            Well then we all deserve to be stoned to death. Who here can honestly say they haven't even ONCE been so angry they wanted to kill someone? i sure cant! Thats murder in the heart. We ALL deserve death. That is why Christ came. This is just one example. And if by "picking up sticks on Saturday" you mean honor the sabbath that was old testament. Incase you haven't noticed there is a new testament now, a new covenant.

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              Re: God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

              Originally posted by devin1992 View Post
              so angry they wanted to kill someone? i sure cant! Thats murder in the heart. We ALL deserve death.
              Yes. We got it that you are LSD smoking raving lunatic, but you might still want to seek some help on your anger management issues. You are just so full of hatred that it can't be healthy.

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                Re: God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

                Originally posted by Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson View Post
                How can it be murder if God commands it? The Bible prescribes death for the following transgressions.

                Murder
                Adultery
                Bestiality both person and beast have to die.
                Rape
                Engaging in homosexual sex
                Picking up sticks on Saturday
                A betrothed woman who does not cry out while being raped
                A woman who is found not to have been a virgin on the night of her wedding
                Worshiping other gods
                Witchcraft (Exodus 22:18)
                Taking God's name in vain or cursing God's name
                Cursing a parent
                Kidnapping

                Romans 13:1-7 states, “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”


                Murder is against the law. Problem?

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                  Re: God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

                  Originally posted by Alphonse Alban View Post
                  Yes. We got it that you are LSD smoking raving lunatic, but you might still want to seek some help on your anger management issues. You are just so full of hatred that it can't be healthy.

                  Now your splitting hairs. you know what i mean. Point is EVERYONE has sinned in some way that is worthy of death. And i you say you haven't then you are extremely arrogant which is a sin, which is worthy of death. Problem? ALSO if i were some kind of lsd maniac as you suppose, then how would i be on here on this website holding an intelligent conversation instead of wandering the streets tripping on lsd? I wouldn't.

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                    Re: God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

                    Originally posted by devin1992 View Post
                    Romans 13:1-7 states,

                    Murder is against the law. Problem?
                    I never said we don't have to follow the laws of man, but in a perfect world, we would be able to carry out God's commands.
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                      Re: God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

                      Originally posted by devin1992 View Post
                      Murder is against the law. Problem?
                      I think you are in so called bad trip. Your anger has blinded you so badly that you cry murder when there is only will of God to be seen. I guess that is just he difference between us. I see positive things in around me, but you just cling to negative.

                      Even if we go by this secular law, you are little too eager to pass judgement. Again. This good Christian is merely being held on first-degree murder charges. As far as I know person is innocent in front of secular law until proven guilty. I really can't see any court passing verdict against person who has just fulfilled God's mission for him.

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                        Re: God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

                        Originally posted by Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson View Post
                        I never said we don't have to follow the laws of man, but in a perfect world, we would be able to carry out God's commands.
                        Yes! But this is not a perfect world. And like i said above we all deserve death because we are all sinners and will be untill we get to heaven. Nobody is perfect. Not me, not you, nobody except God. You could argue and say well if God is perfect then how is this world flawed? Simple, he gave us free will to do as we please. And it is our duty show the light in this dark world and not condemn people.

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                          Re: God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

                          Originally posted by devin1992 View Post
                          Well then we all deserve to be stoned to death. Who here can honestly say they haven't even ONCE been so angry they wanted to kill someone? i sure cant!
                          I have never been so angry that I wanted to murder someone.

                          Originally posted by devin1992 View Post
                          We ALL deserve death. That is why Christ came.
                          For those who believe in Him. After you accept Christ's temporary sacrifice for us, we are washed free from sin.

                          Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

                          Romans 6:11-12,22 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
                          Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
                          22But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.



                          Originally posted by devin1992 View Post
                          This is just one example. And if by "picking up sticks on Saturday" you mean honor the sabbath that was old testament. Incase you haven't noticed there is a new testament now, a new covenant.
                          Yes, I am aware we no longer have to stone people for working on the Sabbath and we also can eat pork.
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                            Re: God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

                            Originally posted by Alphonse Alban View Post
                            I think you are in so called bad trip. Your anger has blinded you so badly that you cry murder when there is only will of God to be seen. I guess that is just he difference between us. I see positive things in around me, but you just cling to negative.

                            Even if we go by this secular law, you are little too eager to pass judgement. Again. This good Christian is merely being held on first-degree murder charges. As far as I know person is innocent in front of secular law until proven guilty. I really can't see any court passing verdict against person who has just fulfilled God's mission for him.
                            You who are so uneducated. LSD makes you hallucinate. In other words see something or someone that isn't there or see colors or shapes that are not there. I would not be able to even post on this forum if i were on lsd. Im focusing on the negative? hahaha! On the contrary! You only see a God who damns and smites. God does get angry and shed destruction but he is also love. (as i have stated and proven over and over...)

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                              Re: God Appears, says "Stone Queers to Death"

                              Originally posted by devin1992 View Post
                              Yes! But this is not a perfect world. And like i said above we all deserve death because we are all sinners and will be untill we get to heaven. Nobody is perfect. Not me, not you, nobody except God.
                              Incorrect.

                              1 John 3:5-9 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
                              Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
                              He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
                              Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

                              Luke 1:5-6 THERE was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
                              And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.


                              Originally posted by devin1992 View Post
                              You could argue and say well if God is perfect then how is this world flawed? Simple, he gave us free will to do as we please.
                              Also incorrect. God predestines whom He calls.

                              Romans 9

                              11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
                              12It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
                              13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
                              14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
                              15For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
                              16So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
                              17For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
                              18Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
                              19Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
                              20Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
                              21Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
                              22What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
                              23And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

                              Originally posted by devin1992 View Post
                              And it is our duty show the light in this dark world and not condemn people.
                              Our job is to warn people to repent and sin no more.
                              2 Timothy 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
                              Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

                              If they won't listen, there's something we are told to do there too.

                              Matthew 10:14-15 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
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