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  • Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

    Todd Stiefel and the Foundation Beyond Belief offered $250,000 in matching funds to the ACS — a great big pot of godless moolah — and the American Cancer Society dodged and waffled and squirmed and ran away from the money. A charitable foundation turned their nose up at half a million dollars. It’s inexplicable. http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngu...-cause-cancer/

    Atheists put up billboards saying simply, "You can be good without God" -- and people freak out. http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/20...-to-advertise/

    Atheists march in a Christmas parade -- and people freak out. http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/20...theists-exist/

    Atheist veterans march in a Memorial Day parade -- and get booed to their faces. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendl...eist-soldiers/ Specifically, Annville, Pennsylvania. Where atheist veterans marching in the Memorial Day parade were jeered, booed, insulted, cursed at, yelled at to leave, and told they were going to burn in hell. Not once or twice by a couple of fanatics… but repeatedly, throughout the course of the parade.

    Atheist students in public high schools try to organize groups -- and get routinely stonewalled by their school administrations. http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/20...-pushing-back/ Hence — lawsuit. Which, as of this writing, is happening solely and entirely in the state of Alabama. As Eberhard, campus organizer and high school specialist at the Secular Student Alliance, added, “While it’s not the first state in which we have seen pushback from adults in a position of authority over students to the idea of atheists forming clubs in the same way religious students form clubs, it is the first state in which we’ve had to bring in lawyers to fight for equality denied.”

    Atheists try to take out ads on buses -- and the bus company changes their policy and stops accepting any ads from religious organizations, just so they don't have to run ads from atheists. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendl...religious-ads/

    Atheists get threatened, hounded from their communities, disowned by their parents http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/20...st-ostracized/

    denied custody of their children, when they come out as atheists. http://volokh.com/posts/1125342962.shtml

    just a year and a half ago, the Mississippi chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union rejected a donation from atheist organizations... not because they personally had anything against atheists, but because, "the majority of Mississippians tremble in terror at the word 'atheist.'" http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/01/us/01prom.html

    in the U.S. Atheists are the most distrusted and disliked of all minority groups — more than Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, Muslims, immigrants, and gays and lesbians. - http://blog.lib.umn.edu/edgell/home/...%20Values.html

    polls show that Americans are less likely to vote for an atheist than they are for a person in any other minority or marginalized category. http://atheism.about.com/od/atheistb...istSurveys.htm

    In Arkansas, the Central Arkansas Transit Authority (CATA) has flatly rejected an atheist ad that the Central Arkansas Coalition of Reason wanted to put up on 18 buses… solely and entirely because the content of the ads — “Are you good without God? Millions are” — is atheist. http://friendlyatheist.com/2011/06/0...tral-arkansas/ Let me spell this one out very plainly: A government-run public transit authority is rejecting religious-themed advertising — solely because the religious view being advertised is the view that religion is mistaken. And no, they haven’t changed their policy to reject all religious-themed ads. They still take religious-themed ads. Just not ones from atheists.

    Alabama. The state where the actual governor, Robert Bentley, said in actual words, “Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I’m telling you, you’re not my brother and you’re not my sister.” http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jan/19/…

    in December of 2009, Cecil Bothwell couldn’t even get elected to the Asheville city council, without people trying to invoke laws — antiquated laws overruled by the Supreme Court, but laws nonetheless — banning him from taking office because he’s an atheist. http://www.citizen-times.com/article/200…

    in Florida, you might get kicked out of a city council meeting simply for wearing an atheist T-shirt. http://friendlyatheist.com/2011/01/26/at…

    if you protest against prayers at city council meetings, you might actually get arrested. http://friendlyatheist.com/2011/02/23/me…

    Did you hear the one about the public high school with the prayer banner in the school gym — a prayer banner specifically addressed to “Our Heavenly Father”. The public high school that got asked to take the banner down by fifteen-year-old atheist high school student Jessica Ahlquist, since it’s an unconstitutional promotion of religion by government? The public high school that’s digging in its heels and hanging on to the banner, despite decades of unambiguous legal precedent making it clear that they’re in the wrong? The public high school that’s getting sued by said atheist high school student and the ACLU… and is still digging in its heels, devoting extensive time and resources to defending their promotion of religion? http://www.projo.com/education/content/C… Students in an English class in her school said — during class — that she should be “smacked around and beat up” for fighting the prayer banner. http://freethoughtri.com/?p=569 Comments in the Providence Journal article on the story were ugly, personal, even threatening — to a great extent about the ACLU, but largely about Ahlquist herself. (“I think you need to talk to a doctor and get help… you are sick in the head.” “Looks like we have a moon bat in the making.” “Make no mistake, Jessica and the Bolshevik thugs representing her are driven by anti-Christian bigotry and intolerance and censorship… Curse them to hell.”) http://www.projo.com/education/content/C… according to the Providence Journal, Ahlquist and another student were removed from their regular classroom schedule last month — after some students said they intended to harm her.

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    Re: Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

    tl;dr


    Simple answer, Christians are!
    Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
    Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

    Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

    Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

    Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

    Luke 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

    Romans 12:14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

    1 Corinthians 4:12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:

    Luke 6:22
    Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.


    I do not see a single mention of God haters or atheists in there anywhere. Do you?
    Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
    Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
    Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
    Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
    Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
    Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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      Re: Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

      Who cares if atheists are persecuted? If they can't be bothered to praise God, I have no use for them.

      Yours in Christ,

      Z. Smyth
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      • #4
        Re: Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

        every sitcom on television featuring a Christian is ALWAYS caricatured, while atheism is never even mentioned. oh and this president essentially said anyone who holds to the Bible is a fool... then he turns around and reads from it at the 9/11 ceremony...

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        • #5
          Re: Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

          Atheistists, you can whine all you want. But, not one atheist has died on a cross.

          That's what Christians have to put up with.
          Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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          • #6
            Re: Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

            The state Constitution of Texas that says, “No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being“.

            The teachers that get fired, not for being atheists, but for being suspected of being atheists

            You’ve got Maryland. Where yet another atheist high school student started a group, whose posters were torn down by other students — and where actual parents of those students wrote letters to the editor supporting the vandalism, and calling the atheist posters “an atrocity.”

            You’ve got Oklahoma. Where still another public high school student tried to start an atheist group, and was accused by his principle of trying to start a “hate group”… and where the faculty advisor for the group suddenly withdrew, saying she had been told sponsoring the group would be “a bad career move.”

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            • #7
              Re: Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

              Originally posted by Bogdana Alkeav View Post
              The state Constitution of Texas that says, “No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being“.

              The teachers that get fired, not for being atheists, but for being suspected of being atheists

              You’ve got Maryland. Where yet another atheist high school student started a group, whose posters were torn down by other students — and where actual parents of those students wrote letters to the editor supporting the vandalism, and calling the atheist posters “an atrocity.”

              You’ve got Oklahoma. Where still another public high school student tried to start an atheist group, and was accused by his principle of trying to start a “hate group”… and where the faculty advisor for the group suddenly withdrew, saying she had been told sponsoring the group would be “a bad career move.”
              What is your point? Do morals and decent values bother you?
              Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
              Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
              Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
              Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
              Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
              Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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              • #8
                Re: Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

                christians by atheists

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                • #9
                  Re: Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

                  Is there even an argument? Unelected liberal activist judges have twisted the First Amendment so that atheists like you can post anti-Christian hate speech like that, while we Christians do not enjoy even such basic rights of free speech as having public school districts organize prayers and Bible study for their students, teaching Genesis alongside evil-utionism in public schools, posting reminders of the Biblical origin of our legal system in courtrooms, and honoring Our Lord Jesus Christ with displays in public parks unless the dotheads get the special privilege of honoring their demons as well.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

                    Every day of a Christians life is constant and unrelenting persecution by Atheists. The crimes against Christians are so numerous they don't bear mentioning because everyone knows them already.

                    If Christians aren't being persecuted then how do you explain Governor Rick Perry.

                    Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

                      The public high school graduation ceremony that was like a revival meeting

                      The governor who responded to economic troubles, natural disasters, and terrorism by initiating a state day of prayer, and exhorted Texans to “call on Jesus”

                      The governor, again, who decreed three official state Days of Prayer for Rain

                      The public school where they distribute Bibles

                      The high school textbooks which teach that the Bible was a “foundational text” in the framing of the U.S., that the King James Bible “remains one of the… most-loved books in the history of the world,” and that “the sun went black” when Jesus was crucified

                      You’ve got Georgia. Where students taking their AP tests at a church were proselytized to by church members.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

                        Originally posted by Bogdana Alkeav View Post
                        The public high school graduation ceremony that was like a revival meeting

                        The governor who responded to economic troubles, natural disasters, and terrorism by initiating a state day of prayer, and exhorted Texans to “call on Jesus”

                        The governor, again, who decreed three official state Days of Prayer for Rain

                        The public school where they distribute Bibles

                        The high school textbooks which teach that the Bible was a “foundational text” in the framing of the U.S., that the King James Bible “remains one of the… most-loved books in the history of the world,” and that “the sun went black” when Jesus was crucified

                        You’ve got Georgia. Where students taking their AP tests at a church were proselytized to by church members.
                        Yes, so sometimes the fight back works.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

                          Originally posted by Bogdana Alkeav View Post
                          tl;dr
                          Why did you give yourself a username “Godgiven” (Slavic “Bogdan” = Greek “Theoódotos” = Hebrew “Jehonatan”) if you loathe God so much?

                          YiC, DUH
                          Ask not what your Lord can do for you. Ask what you can do for your Lord.


                          ... your choice entirely (Matthew 12:30)

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                          • #14
                            Re: Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

                            OH Boo Hoo for the poor, picked on Atheists... are you kidding with this?

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                            • #15
                              Re: Who is more persecuted in America - Christians or Atheists?

                              Is atheism legal? Unfortunately, yes.
                              Is Christianity legal? To be a Christian, you must follow all of God's commandments, and oppressive secular law bans us from following many of His Wishes, such as not allowing us to execute non-believers. So, clearly, we are much more persecuted, and we will carry on being persecuted until the day that atheism is made illegal and punishable by death.
                              O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



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