Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

[Rodrigo]

My first thread and, if the Lord wills it, not the last. (James 1:13-17.)

I was recently approached by a Christian minister about volunteering on the board of a new organization. I've known this brother for many years and know him as a man of God. He introduced me to his other board member, who handed me a business card. The card included titles such as "Knights Templar," "Masons," etc. and a fancy symbol.

I asked him a few questions, about his rank and affiliations (is it masons? Related to RCC? etc.), but did not get much detail. I honestly don't understand the secrecy and air of superiority that these folks exude. Is it awesome or awful?

Links:

http://www.hraktp.org/

https://www.knightstemplarinternational.com/

Thank you.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

Weren't the knights templar some sort of catholic operation?

and right there at the 40 second mark,

Year Established . . 1119
Founded by: . . . . . . .Hugues de Payens
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Godfrey de Saint-Omer

so I looked them up:



Hugues de Payens

He organized the original nine monk-knights to defend pilgrims to the Holy Land in response to the call to action of Pope Urban II.

A papist toady. I won't link to the catholic encyclopædia but there's plenty of fawning to be found in there. Next:



Godfrey de Saint-Omer

Godfrey of Saint-Omer, also known as Gaufred, Godefroi, or Godfrey de St Omer, was a Flemish knight, and one of the founding members of the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon in c. 1118.

..which meant I also needed to look up "Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon" and sure enough

Officially endorsed by the Roman Catholic Church in the year 1129, the Templars became etc. etc.

Looking through a few sources all I got was papism papism papism pope pope pope you could almost smell the holy water not to mention blasphemous nuns, Bible denying friars, lying priests & sozzled monks brainwashing children to coerce them, when adults, to fund their simony. Nevertheless, the temple knights did oppose marauding hordes who had their eyes on Europe and America which at this time was a Viking colony administered from Greenland so who knows? Did they prevent America from conversion to the false prophet? Were the savages spared from Mohammed so that the message of Salvation could one day be preached? Or did they open the doorway for popish adventures across the new world. An adventure requiring the declaration of independence in God's Name to dislodge. But even so, there still seem to be a lot of Romish idolators on the map.

Obviously I don't intrude opinions in my posts but am happy to post this map so others may decide for themselves or, preferably, ask the Pastors who will explain the correct position.

Jeremiah 3:15 I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding. kjv

Genesis 1:27-28a God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply. kjv

[Back against wall]

Re: Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

Nice work Miss Mitza.

I was going to leave this alone but ...

Firstly. You supplied 2 links, If you can't read then that's fine, I am sure Minister Harry can help you with some private one on one lessons at some point if you attend his boy camp. But if you can read, then whats my next question? Remembering you supplied 2 links.

Secondly. You were asked to sit on the board of an organization? Seriously? Is this at Sunday school or at lunch times?

Thirdly. A guy gives you a business card with his details on it, stating who he is, literally and then he wont tell you who he is?

Are you on drugs?
To be 100% honest I think you are being recruited for a Pornographic film involving a man, another man, yet another man, many other men and you.. oh, and some costumes. I would guess they are going to have you play with swords and things, and balls with chains. If it's not too late, first check how much they were going to pay you and if it's less than a trip to Satan's playhouse I'd perhaps consider passing on the whole "Rape Me" thing.

You're welcome.

[Herman Periwinkle]

Re: Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

I must say, I think their hearts may be in the right place despite their Cathylick misdirections. The Knights Templar are certainly on the right track in their thinking that violence is the Biblical solution prescribed by God to deal with those who fall short of God's demands. It's too bad they also believe in praying in other languages and worshiping statues and wearing glans shaped hats. So, I see them as doing God's work but reaping none of the reward for their efforts. Overall, that's fine with me, but I wouldn't want to join them.

As for the H-KRAP fellows in Bellaire, TX, they seem like fellows who either don't know how to spell or are running an "orgazation". Either way, they are also bound straight for the firey rectum of hell as they are also Knights Templar. And as Back Against Wall indicated, they really do seem like homosexual pedophiles.

Rodrigo, I think your acquaintance is trying to convert you to a life of homosexuality disguised as a Godly lifestyle of killing all who oppose God. Let's hope his faith is not tested anytime soon.

[Alvin Moss]

Re: Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

I must take umbrage with that map. It shows all of America, save the godly South, as being in thrall to Rome and Mormans. I believe that is likely a mistake.

Note- It is interesting that the godless wretches of West Virginia, them that seceded from Virginia at the time of the late unpleasantness and joined the Yankees, are Methodists. That explains a lot of strange behavior.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

Rodrigo, I think your acquaintance is trying to convert you to a life of homosexuality disguised as a Godly lifestyle of killing all who oppose God. Let's hope his faith is not tested anytime soon.

I was wondering about the picture on their seal thingy, perhaps you've hit on an explanation.



Did a later pope really have them all burned at the stake?

I must take umbrage with that map. It shows all of America, save the godly South, as being in thrall to Rome and Mormans. I believe that is likely a mistake.

Note- It is interesting that the godless wretches of West Virginia, them that seceded from Virginia at the time of the late unpleasantness and joined the Yankees, are Methodists. That explains a lot of strange behavior.

I don't know but there do seem to be many references from US TV personalities to catholicism, "going to mass" and "priests" and stuff which I never hear from other countries.

[Youth Minister Harry]

Re: Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

You're right, MitzaLizalor! How disgusting! Those two men are clearly dressed like Catholicks!

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

You're right, MitzaLizalor! How disgusting! Those two men are clearly dressed like Catholicks!

They apparently were founded by French Freemasons (according to some) - which would almost guarantee that they were gay. One look at that seal, with two men bare backing on a horse, would not leave any doubt to most sensible people.

There are others that suggest that the diabolical cathylick Jesuits are at the root of all this as well.

[Youth Minister Harry]

Re: Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

My Lord! This bareback conspiracy drills deeper than I would have imagined in my wildest fantasies!

[Back against wall]

Re: Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

I thoght everyone knew that these Templates pushed the poops poop. I honestly thought everyone knew this?
I would advise against researching this, because it's in code. But it is widely known that Leonardo da Vinci (a turtle?) claimed that upon Christs return, Christ would be a Woman

[Rodrigo]

Re: Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

Weren't the knights templar some sort of catholic operation?

and right there at the 40 second mark,

Year Established . . 1119
Founded by: . . . . . . .Hugues de Payens
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Godfrey de Saint-Omer

so I looked them up:



Hugues de Payens
A papist toady. I won't link to the catholic encyclopædia but there's plenty of fawning to be found in there. Next:



Godfrey de Saint-Omer


..which meant I also needed to look up "Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon" and sure enough


Looking through a few sources all I got was papism papism papism pope pope pope you could almost smell the holy water not to mention blasphemous nuns, Bible denying friars, lying priests & sozzled monks brainwashing children to coerce them, when adults, to fund their simony. Nevertheless, the temple knights did oppose marauding hordes who had their eyes on Europe and America which at this time was a Viking colony administered from Greenland so who knows? Did they prevent America from conversion to the false prophet? Were the savages spared from Mohammed so that the message of Salvation could one day be preached? Or did they open the doorway for popish adventures across the new world. An adventure requiring the declaration of independence in God's Name to dislodge. But even so, there still seem to be a lot of Romish idolators on the map.

Obviously I don't intrude opinions in my posts but am happy to post this map so others may decide for themselves or, preferably, ask the Pastors who will explain the correct position.

Jeremiah 3:15 I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding. kjv

Genesis 1:27-28a God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply. kjv

Thank you, Mitza, for your legwork on this. Yes, the genesis of these "Knights" seems to be Saint Bernard, who acted as a mediator when two popes were competing for papal supremacy.

My history knowledge is limited, but isn't it accuratish to say that, at that time (~1100 AD) the RCC was nearly the only game in town, i.e. the "true Christians" were a largely disjointed (on the human level) group, disbursed throughout Europe and Asia? So, any organized body would have at its power/basis/funding from the RCC.

Yet, I agree with the others' posts, here - the RCC roots, secrecy, and symbol of two men sharing a horse, are troubling. I am not interested in sharing a saddle, with any man, figuratively or literally.

Thanks, All. I believe I will pass, for now, on the invitation.

[Basilissa]

Re: Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

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My history knowledge is limited, but isn't it accuratish to say that, at that time (~1100 AD) the RCC was nearly the only game in town, i.e. the "true Christians" were a largely disjointed (on the human level) group, disbursed throughout Europe and Asia? So, any organized body would have at its power/basis/funding from the RCC.

Wrong. Baptists have always existed. The history was written by our enemy, that's why we were largely ommitted.

[Back against wall]

Re: Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

You will be happy to know that I found some Templates for you. Maybe you will like this one my dear messycan unshaven armpit. There are so many.



You're Welcome .. warmly.

[Rodrigo]

Re: Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

Wrong. Baptists have always existed. The history was written by our enemy, that's why we were largely ommitted.

Thank you for the history lesson link, Sister. So, John the Baptist would have been the first Baptist? (John 3:3)

[Basilissa]

Re: Knights Templar - an Upper Echelon of Christian Brotherhood? Tool of Satan? Neither?

Thank you for the history lesson link, Sister. So, John the Baptist would have been the first Baptist? (John 3:3)

Exactly.