[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: God Hates Cripples

Why don't you take what the Gospels say to heart? Apparently Jesus is talking about you...

John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Oh I have faith, but I also have a free mind, you said you would clearly follow liar, believe all that he tells you to, thats not freedom thats a cult

I know you guys dislike me, but I only have an opinion, you control my content, but somehow I cant dispute yours. Funny that.

Are you a cripple? Is that why you're posting in this thread? Is that why you're so feeble-minded?

[angels]

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Oh I have faith, but I also have a free mind, you said you would clearly follow liar, believe all that he tells you to, thats not freedom thats a cult

I know you guys dislike me, but I only have an opinion, you control my content, but somehow I cant dispute yours. Funny that.

I am not brainwashed branch. That's what a cult is.
I don't dislike you. How could I?. I don't even know you, and I certainly won't judge you, God will do that.

[angels]

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Oh and one last thing I need to mention. Brother James is not a liar. He's an honest speaking good Christian man.

[lowclassbranch]

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OOOO nice Gospel quote, doesnt mean me personally though does it

I am disabled yes, but it doesn't mean God made it so, I believe we are all part of Gods family, I have my mind, you may think its feeble, but lets be honest all you people can do to me, is try and degrade me, and say OOOOOOO GOD HATES YOU, YOUR GONNA BURN!

You don't like me as I have a different faith and a different opinion and all you lot are doing are spitting your dummies out, crying out to your version of God because you cant do anything to, I sit here smiling at your futile attempts to Judge me, In any case I thank you, for making me happy knowing that I am Happy and loved by God, I cherish life, all you do is inject fear into people and brainwash them

And yes Brother James is a Liar, he says I shake and drool, and I work in a paint shop. that is a Lie and if you cant see that angels, that that's a pity. You are Ok angels, you speak a little bit more sense than Mr Hutchins, The Pastor, reverend Jim, they all want me to burn in hell, do you actually personally believe I am going to burn in hell for something I didn't choose and if so, how is that fair?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I am going to burn in hell for something I didn't choose and if so, how is that fair?

Please show me which Scripture in the Holy Bible says that God is "fair?"

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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[...]I am disabled yes, but it doesn't mean God made it so, [...]?

Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

Why do you call God a liar?

[James Hutchins]

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...............
And yes Brother James is a Liar, he says I shake and drool, and I work in a paint shop. that is a Lie and if you cant see that angels, that that's a pity. You are Ok angels, you speak a little bit more sense than Mr Hutchins, The Pastor, reverend Jim, they all want me to burn in hell, do you actually personally believe I am going to burn in hell for something I didn't choose and if so, how is that fair?

I never said you did those things. I said you probably drooled and shaked as that was a common side effect of your disease. I said you probably worked in a paint shop as that would be an occupation that could make use of your disease. I never said I hated you you, I said God does (by the way, that is the topic of the thread). You do have less value than a normal person like your brothers for example. You know it, your family knows it, get over it.
The Rev. and Pastor do want you to burn in Hell, I am sure God does not want you to burn in Hell. I personally, have no opinion. But two things show that you probably will. You are diseased and you are a God mocker.
What I do know is you come into our home and harass us. You came here to bad mouth us. Instead of listening to our opinions and facts, leaving if you do not like what you hear, you whined incessantly. Perhaps, we should come to your hovel, uninvited, stay for as long as we want, get thrown out, return and continue to spew hate speech like you have.
The reality here is you are angry at God, your Parents and the rest of the normal world. I assure you, if we were not so loving, we would not take the time to listen. Most people on the street would hear your 'poor me' and hate speech for only so long before they stomped you. With your bad attitude, you are going to have a miserable life.

[James Hutchins]

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Poor, poor Branch, managed to get itself quarantined. Put into the asylum with all the defects.

[Meek and Humble]

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That's not an answer. How, if he is infinitely compassionate and omniscient can he hate? Provide an explanation, please.

http://www.carm.org/religious-moveme...od-hate-anyone
Does God hate anyone?

The universalists repeatedly say things like, "God loves us all so much that He will save us all"; or "He hates the sin, but loves the sinner"; or "God is love, and will not send anyone to hell."
Universalists teach that God is so full of love, that He simply cannot send anyone to eternal hell fire. It is against His infinite love. They want God to forgive all, even those who openly reject Him and die cursing God.
I must admit, it is nice to think of God's love being so infinitely great that all will ultimately be saved. Hell is a terrible place and I don't want anyone to go there. But it does not matter what I think. It matters what the Bible says.
God is love (1 John 4:8), but God also punishes the sinner and hates all who do iniquity. God is not one sided. He is not simply an infinitely loving God. He is also infinitely just. He must deal with sin. He must punish the sinner.
In the truth of God's word, we find that the Lord has provided one way by which we may be saved. That single way is through Jesus' sacrifice. For all who trust in Him, salvation will come. But to those who turn away, God's wrath abides upon them: "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him," (John 3:36).
Does God hate anyone?

Does God hate anyone? The answer is yes.

• Psalm 5:5, "The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity,"
• Psalm 11:5, "The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, and the one who loves violence His soul hates."
• Lev. 20:23, "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them."
• Prov. 6:16-19, "There are six things which the Lord hates, yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that run rapidly to evil, 19 A false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers."
• Hosea 9:15, "All their evil is at Gilgal; indeed, I came to hate them there! Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of My house! I will love them no more; All their princes are rebels."

Are these verses hard to read? Do they make you feel uncomfortable? They should. God hates sin. But, He does not punish sin. He punishes the sinner. Sin cannot be tied up and thrown into a fire. It cannot be put in a box or glued to a stick. It is rebellion. It is rebellion in the heart. It is breaking God's Law. Sin occurs inside the heart and mind of people. Therefore, God must punish the sinner. Why? Because He is both Holy and Just and the person who sins offends God. God's Holy and Just character will not allow Him to ignore this offense. Why?....
God's Law is Perfect

When God said, "Let there be light," it happened. When He commanded that the oceans be, they came into existence. God's word is powerful. What He says is never futile, empty, or without power.
The Law is a reflection of God's character. It is pure and perfect. It is powerful. The Ten Commandments reflect God's holiness and justice. These commandments are not without punishments. A law without consequences is only an empty slogan.
To sin is to break God's Law and offend His character. To sin means to challenge His character and authority. It means you go against His word. But God is not a liar. His word is true. He has said He will punish the lawbreaker.
But, praise be to God, that while we were yet sinners, Jesus died for us (Rom. 5:6). There is no way we can appease God. That is why God became one of us (John 1:1,14; Heb. 2:17), to take our place and become sin on our behalf (2 Cor. 5:21). Therefore, people have two options:

1. Trust Jesus, God in flesh, as your savior and put your faith in the sacrifice that He made on the cross and in nothing you do.
2. Reject the cross and let the penalty of the Law fall upon you.

Either God pays, or you do -- forever. Which will it be?
"For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins," (Heb. 10:26). If there is no sacrifice available for you, then God's wrath abides upon you because He hates sin and your sin is not removed (John 3:36). Trust Jesus alone or the wrath of God will abide upon you forever.
Conclusion

The sobering fact is that God is so holy and righteous that He hates the sinner (Psalm 5:5; Lev. 20:23; Prov. 6:16-19; Hos. 9:15). Some say that we should say that God only hates the sin but loves the sinner. But, the above scriptures speak contrary to that. But it is also true that He is love (1 John 4:8). It is better to accept the love of God found in Jesus than to reject it and suffer His wrath.

[Meek and Humble]

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You see, they don't believe in free will. No offense, but I don't think the concept of free will is compatible with the concept of an all-knowing God. If God knows all that will happen, before it happens, is choice really involved at all? I don't see how it could be. In fact the very idea of an all knowing god removes all worth from living, does it not? Why do the people on this forum get so angry at scientists, homosexuals, and cripples when they already believe that everything is planned out by God beforehand? According to them everything already has a pre-planned purpose in God's plan, correct? So why get angry with God's will? More hypocrisy.

The Bible explains this. Romans is a good place to start. Here are some relevant quotes:

Romans 1: 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Romans 9: 11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
12It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

[bathwater]

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What the Bible says about Cripples

Ex.4:11
Who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?

Lev.21:17-23
Whosoever ... hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken; No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the LORD made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God. ... Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries.

Given these Holy Scriptures, why are we being forced by demoncrats to spend our hard earned tax dollars on such nonsense as "sheltered workshops" and wheelchairs?

This was written by a man, and all you are is a lemming in the big picture. You lack enough sense on your own as a creature of the earth to make your own judgments on life so you have to follow what another MAN wrote down hundreds of years ago. You are nothing but a blind FOLLOWER, and in that sense you are a cripple as well.

[James Hutchins]

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This was written by a man, and all you are is a lemming in the big picture. You lack enough sense on your own as a creature of the earth to make your own judgments on life so you have to follow what another MAN wrote down hundreds of years ago. You are nothing but a blind FOLLOWER, and in that sense you are a cripple as well.

Son are you retarded? Does the hospital personnel know you are on a computer?

[bathwater]

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Yerrrpp. Retarded.

[bathwater]

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Son are you retarded? Does the hospital personnel know you are on a computer?

SOFA KINNGG WEE TODD DDIIDD


Nah they dont know.

Are you that insecure in your faith that you have to name-call when someone disagrees with you? I mean most logical people would simply provide a counter argument backed by fact, but I know thats not how you operate.