[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

As a responsible, voting, American adult, I am speechless.

Dear friend:

As a responsible, voting, saved American adult, I ask you to do the following. Whenever you tell us what Christianity is or is not, and whenever you tell us that we are wrong, please back up your answer with Scripture.

Thank you for your attention, and have a blessed day.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

That is not Christianity. Christianity is loving one another and showing compassion to your fellow humans and through your LOVE and COMPASSION perhaps they will think you are on to something. Anything less than love, understanding, and compassion for all and God will turn his cheek to you.

That is all.

Honestly friend I find people like you utterly boorish.

The specific point of Landover Baptist is to follow The Bible in its' entirety to the letter and spirit intended. If you feel we are wrong show us in scripture.

Alex; no one cares about what your opinion about what Christianity is. We do care about how the Bible defines it.

Is that clear enough for you Alex?

[alexd]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

• Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. (Verse 7)
• Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God. (Verse 8)
• Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. (Verse 9)

[A Follower]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

• Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. (Verse 7)
• Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God. (Verse 8)
• Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. (Verse 9)

Would you please be so kind as to not quote Scripture out of context? And use a real Bible: the KJV 1611 edition.

Please take just 10 minutes to read the entirety of Matthew 5, it will clearly show you all the things He mentions are required, the commands you quoted, but also including plucking out your eye if it offends you, including eternal torture for lustful thoughts, and most importantly: not one jot and not one tittle from older parts of the Bible will be removed.

[GOD=life]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

• Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. (Verse 7)
• Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God. (Verse 8)
• Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. (Verse 9)

Very good, now let's continue reading, shall we?

5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (that's us)

5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. (that's us again: you revile us and persecute us)

5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you. (looks like a pattern, do you see why we welcome to be persecuted?)

And then a tiny bit further:

5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (aha, teaching false Christianity is NOT okay, check)

And then looking a bit further.... this may apply to you:

5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. (wait, weren't you complaining about amputation, even though God tells us to do so in the section of the Bible YOU tell us to read?????)

And so on and so on.......

Do you understand that when you pick and choose parts of the Bible, you present a narrative that is corrupted and biased to your opinion?

Check and mate, friend.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

• Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. (Verse 7)
• Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God. (Verse 8)
• Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. (Verse 9)

If that were all, then not only would the Bible be a lot shorter, but also, we could save ourselves through works, which we cannot:

Eph. 2:8-9: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Instead, we are saved by faith:

John 3:18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

This answers the question about the virtuous atheist, by the way.

Of course, those who have true faith rather than false faith will do all that God commands:

Matt. 7:21-23: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Finally, while we love one another, we have enough genuine Christian love to tell people when they are sinning:

Ezek. 3:18-19: When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

1 Tim. 5:20: Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

• Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. (Verse 7)
• Blessed are the clean of heart: for they shall see God. (Verse 8)
• Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. (Verse 9)

...and you have taken into consideration that all the above must first be believers, and not just 'believers who cry, "Lord, Lord" but True Christians(tm)?

So even to approach being merciful, pure of heart and a peacemaker, you have to be True Christian(tm).

Look on it like driving a car, no matter how good you are, if you haven't reached the minimum age, it's not for you.

[alexd]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

I'm not saying those other parts aren't there, I'm just saying that it says be a peacemaker, be merciful. On that can we not agree?

*sigh*

[GOD=life]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

Well, do you want us to stop reading as soon as we no longer like what God is saying?

Do you think God likes being told to shut up?

[alexd]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

No no not at all, I'm just always sort of confused which parts of the Bible to put more weight on when it seems to say something different somewhere else. I'll work on it though! There is always room for improvement, I figure, so I'll keep trying to figure it out!

[Mistress Cookie]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

No no not at all, I'm just always sort of confused which parts of the Bible to put more weight on when it seems to say something different somewhere else. I'll work on it though! There is always room for improvement, I figure, so I'll keep trying to figure it out!

I think you have a very good attitude, Alex. I am glad you are devoted to studying Christianity in its entirety. Yes, it takes patience to really read (and reread) ALL of the Bible. It was written so long ago, and writing styles have changed. But whatever work you put into reading the Bible and acting on its instructions returns to you 100 fold.

Hope you have a nice weekend

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

No no not at all, I'm just always sort of confused which parts of the Bible to put more weight on when it seems to say something different somewhere else. I'll work on it though! There is always room for improvement, I figure, so I'll keep trying to figure it out!

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Matthew 5:18 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

We are to follow EVERY WORD of the Holy Bible, friend.

What church do you attend?

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

[InvisiblePinkUnicorn]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

Can we please get back to proof of my existence?

I genuinely cannot tell whether this post is a joke or not.

These people are not joking. I have been observing them for a while and they have graciously answered the questions I have asked of them.

Also: fitness requirements, safety, and ratings of self-crucifixion, flagellation, stoning, destroying enemies of GOD utterly, without mercy, and other activities inherent in Christianity

That is not Christianity.

Have your READ the Bible? Just to clarify, I am an atheist. I HAVE read the Bible and I can assure you that these good folks at LBC have done so as well. The things you cite above as not being part of Christianity are ALL included in the Bible MULTIPLE times and all endorsed by their God.

Christianity is loving one another and showing compassion to your fellow humans and through your LOVE and COMPASSION perhaps they will think you are on to something. Anything less than love, understanding, and compassion for all and God will turn his cheek to you.

But also, anything less than 100% utter submission to his whims, no matter how mean or capricious they are and he will burn you for all time. In fact, God supposedly knew what everyone would EVER do since BEFORE he created the universe, yet he still decided to create those people who would end up in Hell. Why did he create them? I couldn't be because he wanted to see what would happen since he knew that already. (Let's ignore for a minute that the Bible depicts God as being suprised by things several times...)

Now, tell me how Christianity "all about love" again?

I respect the LBC people because they are logical about their faith. They make one assumption: The God of the Bible is real. After that, they simply read the text of the Bible and follow what it says. Every other Christian pastor/priest/follow I have EVER met seems to skip all the unpleasant stuff and when you press them about ti, they start stammering and quoting John 3:16 as if it was the only thing in the Bible. Those people are desperately searching for meaning in life and think that they will find it in mythology written when that wheelbarrow would have been viewed as a wonder of engineering. Somehow, these people are actually surprised when they discover that their bronze-age fairy tales include heavenly sanction of rape, murder, slavery, a God who destroys innocent people en masse just to nail a few guilty ones, and eternal torture by a maniacal and vicious petty jealous God.

Take a look at the scripture cited in the first post. These desert-dwelling scribblers were saying that their god was as powerful as a unicorn. What does that say about this book?

[Niclas Jensen]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

But also, anything less than 100% utter submission to his whims, no matter how mean or capricious they are and he will burn you for all time. In fact, God supposedly knew what everyone would EVER do since BEFORE he created the universe, yet he still decided to create those people who would end up in Hell. Why did he create them? I couldn't be because he wanted to see what would happen since he knew that already. (Let's ignore for a minute that the Bible depicts God as being suprised by things several times...)

I think it is here that Satan comes in.
It is just a vague guess, i have not read the bible myself, nor do i intend to.

[GOD=life]

Re: Is God as Strong as a Unicorn?

It is just a vague guess, i have not read the bible myself, nor do i intend to.

And that makes the value of your opinion..... 0.