[Mistress Cookie]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

Treat others as you would like to be treated is the only message worth quoting from the bible and it covers all situations.

Oh, please.

If that were the "whole story", why wouldn't God have just written that pithy phrase on a tablet, and saved a lot of trees and reading time?

No, Miss Sara Klug. If you accept God's Bible as Holy, then you accept all of it...not just the parts you personally like. Are you a Christian™, or someone founding the Church of Klugulism?

[Gabriel Reproba]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

I wrongly thought this list to be a joke as I believed that a modern, Western, 'civilised' society could not spawn such ignorance and hate.

Wrongly is right! This "ignorance and hate" come straight form the Bible!

...people who manipulate its meaning through literal interpretation...

Whoa there, Nelly. How does someone "manipulate" a text through "literal interpretation?" Seriously, think about what you just said for just ONE second.

This website, and indeed faith itself, has no right to promote genocide and rape as Christian principles!

But they are. What don't you understand about the hundreds fo examples of it in the Bible? (Even in your perverted version of the Bible?) Let me guess...everything you don't agree with is somehow NOT the Word of God but everything you DO agree with IS the Word of God? How convenient! How did you come about this super-human power to know the will fo OUR LORD without reading the Bible? I hope you sleep well at night thinking you know better than God.

Prune Danish is willing to accept any punishments mentioned in the bible as literal fact, and yet is happy to cut and change the order to suit his own interpretation.

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Sheesh. What don't you simpletons NOT GET about a list that is sorting the Ten Commandments by descending order of severity of the associated punishment? He called it an anomaly because if they are left as they occur in the Good Book, they are ALMOST in the order of worst punishment (genocide) to least worst (rape, sexual slavery, etc.) That he had to move one by one spot so that they are sorted in the punishment order is so hard for you to grasp?

I wonder if you are all so trigger happy with homosexuals, who are not mentioned in the bible?

Have you even READ the Bible?

The fact that there is a smilie next to where I am writing that depicts three muslims terrorists being blown up suggests to me that this site probably supports sensible, politically correct ideals. Or at least, a middle ages Christian view of sensible, politically correct ideals.

Are you saying that morals are relative? that they depend on what year you are living? That is not what your pope says. In fact, I can't think of a single "Christian" sect that would say morals are relative. Our whole point is that without religion, you end up with moral relativism. Are you saying you think that morals change based on circumstances? Where do you find support for that in the Bible?

The people who follow the bible to the letter need to realise that it is a collection of stories, fables if you will, that teach us how to be good and loving members of mankind.

Can you please cite for me specific instruction in the Bible that state which stories are "fables" or "parables" and which ones are literal? I know it specifically says something like "Jesus then told the Fable of the Fig Tree" and things like that, but doesn't that mean that anything not labeled as such is the truth? If you can show me instructions in the Bible for which things are parables, I will apologize. But I don't think you can. You just don't like God's Law so you make silly statements like "...people who manipulate its meaning through literal interpretation...." I have seriously never heard such trash!

'Let's kill and rape everyone who doesn't agree with us,' is not a mature, reasonable or even sane mantra.

And yet it is what the Bible literally tells us to do. If it's between your skepticism or discomfort and the Word of God, I'll go with God any day of the week, thanks!

I hope you see that you are going to go to Hell if you don't do what the Bible tells you to do. To think you know better than the word of the Bible is hubris at its highest, you heathen!

[TrapDoorGreen]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

Would 2012 suit you?

What happens in 2012?Is that when the genocide and raping starts?

[Wide-Open]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

Let me know when that happens 'my friend'.

Would 2012 suit you?

[TrapDoorGreen]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

Yeah. Bush. Palin. Minority. Watch this space.

Read any Pew reports lately?

Very soon my Friend, you will be the minority.

Let me know when that happens 'my friend'.

[Wide-Open]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

Thank god you people are a minority in the world.

Yeah. Bush. Palin. Minority. Watch this space.

Read any Pew reports lately?

Very soon my Friend, you will be the minority.

[TrapDoorGreen]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

Thank god you people are a minority in the world.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

[...]I am a twenty year old girl from Australia and underwent thirteen years of catholic schooling so I am well aware of the bible and its teachings, [...]

This makes no sense whatsoever, Catlix are well known for not reading the Bible, they read selected passages and put perverse meanings upon them. As if this were not bad enough they add bits to God's Word.

A lesson from History for you:
Archbishop Ussher called a meeting of the Irish bishops in his house in November of 1626, the result being the "Judgement of the Arch-Bishops and Bishops of Ireland". This begins: "The religion of the papists is superstitious and idolatrous; their faith and doctrine erroneous and heretical; their church in respect of both, apostatical; to give them therefore a toleration, or to consent that they may freely exercise their religion, and profess their faith and doctrine, is a grievous sin."

Now, how can you argue with that?

[Rev Jeffrey Lebowski]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

I am a twenty year old girl from Australia and underwent thirteen years of catholic schooling

Sara,
Thanks for taking a time-out from attempting to jump the rabbit proof fence.
You aboriginal ideas are truly amusing to us here in the Western civilized society.
Does the rest of your tribe know you are on the internets?

Tell us about your 13 years of abuse at the hands of the Catholics in the Introduction Forum.
Many here at Landover have heard what the Mary-Worshipers do to young girls; especially those jack-booted Irish nuns!
Did they torture you poor abos too, was it because of your homersexuality (which I thought they encouraged)???

Wishing you the gifts of Western civilization,
Rev Jeffrey Lebowski
Sister Verna Too {she is playing Waltzing Matilda on here didjeridong }

[Nobar King]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

She said 'trigger happy'! He, He!

[Sara Klug]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

I first googled this post when I heard Prune Danish's 'handy colour chart' read aloud on a comedy podcast. I wrongly thought this list to be a joke as I believed that a modern, Western, 'civilised' society could not spawn such ignorance and hate.

I am a twenty year old girl from Australia and underwent thirteen years of catholic schooling so I am well aware of the bible and its teachings, and therefore also aware of people who manipulate its meaning through literal interpretation to foster their fear and hatred of this world and its many moral dilemmas. This website, and indeed faith itself, has no right to promote genocide and rape as Christian principles! Not to mention the 'obvious anomaly' of the six sins preceeding 'Thou shalt not kill' with sanctified killing.

Prune Danish is willing to accept any punishments mentioned in the bible as literal fact, and yet is happy to cut and change the order to suit his own interpretation. I wonder if you are all so trigger happy with homosexuals, who are not mentioned in the bible? The fact that there is a smilie next to where I am writing that depicts three muslims terrorists being blown up suggests to me that this site probably supports sensible, politically correct ideals. Or at least, a middle ages Christian view of sensible, politically correct ideals.

The people who follow the bible to the letter need to realise that it is a collection of stories, fables if you will, that teach us how to be good and loving members of mankind. Treat others as you would like to be treated is the only message worth quoting from the bible and it covers all situations. 'Let's kill and rape everyone who doesn't agree with us,' is not a mature, reasonable or even sane mantra.

Anyone else who also found this site because of RG's Guide to Law and Order, and is aghast that this is true, email me [email address deleted]

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Sometimes a good stoning is necessary

It's best to stay on the safe side. Being overly cautious of Satan lurking in your neighbors is always better than being under. Jesus will understand.

[Aristotle]

Re: Sometimes a good stoning is necessary

Well, we know for one thing from the Gospels that people possessed by spirits like to cry out that Jesus is the Messiah. You should look for people do that.

My neighbor cried out "Jesus Christ" quite loudly when he hit his thumb with his hammer, but I suppose that is not the same.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Sometimes a good stoning is necessary

Well, we know for one thing from the Gospels that people possessed by spirits like to cry out that Jesus is the Messiah. You should look for people do that.

[Aristotle]

Sometimes a good stoning is necessary

And need I repeat that killing is bad, but it still only incurs half the punishment of that of adultery?

In fact sometimes there's no punishment at all for killiing. Heres a pericope from Exodus chapter 21 -- i.e. the chapter immediately following the Ten Commandments:

Exodus 21:12 He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.
Exodus 21:13 And if a man lie not in wait, but God deliver him into his hand; then I will appoint thee a place whither he shall flee.
Exodus 21:14 But if a man come presumptuously upon his neighbour, to slay him with guile; thou shalt take him from mine altar, that he may die.

So if God has "God delivered him into your hand" you may escape scott free. What a friend we have in Jesus.¨

The LORD doesn't demand killing lightly, but sometimes death by stoning is necessary, like if a man or woman has a 'familiar spirit' (Leviticus 20:27)

Now, I must admit that this particular verse puzzles me a bit. Perhaps some good Baptist could explain how to know who has a 'familiar spirit'. Maybe my neighbor has one and I didn't recognize it.