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  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
    • 78556

    #1

    Even Catholics Are Offended by This!

    I am beyond furious over THIS latest affront to our Savior. Further evidence that artists are nothing but a front for the radical homersexural agenda, and not to be trusted.


    Controversial crucifix creates rift at Warr Acres church
    Some parishioners say icon is obscene


    WARR ACRES — Churchgoers are outraged over a crucifix in a Catholic church that they say shows an image of genitalia on Jesus.


    The controversial crucifix has caused a deep divide among members of St. Charles Borromeo Catholic Church, where it hangs above the main altar.

    "There are a couple people who have left the parish,” said the Rev. Philip Seeton, the church’s pastor. "There are people in the parish who don’t like it and have stayed.”

    Critics of the crucifix take issue with what appears to be a large penis covering Jesus’ abdominal area. Seeton said the portion of the crucifix in question is meant to be Jesus’ abdomen "showing distension” — not a penis.

    Seeton said, "I’ve had people who have vocally said that that’s what they see there. I’ve had people who have been just as vocal who said that’s not what they’re seeing there.”

    Janet Jaime, a local iconography artist who designed the crucifix, had no comment.

    "I think it was painted according to the certain specific rules of iconography and church art,” Seeton said of the crucifix.

    The crucifix is about 10 feet tall. It has been hanging above the altar since Feb. 21.

    Seeton said the crucifix doesn’t concern him, and there are no plans to remove it.

    Monsignor Edward Weisenburger of the Oklahoma City Archdiocese also said he has no problems with the crucifix. He said the archdiocese has received no complaints about it.

    However, numerous current and former church parishioners contacted The Oklahoman this week expressing outrage at what many called a "pornographic” depiction of Jesus. Many asked that their identities be withheld.

    Parishioner Rita Cook said the crucifix is one of many recent decisions by Seeton, who has been at the church since 2008, that longtime parishioners are concerned with.

    "The crucifix is the straw on the camel’s back,” said Cook, who has attended the church for 35 years. "I think it’s an embarrassment to our Lord. I think it’s an embarrassment to our parishioners. And I think it’s an embarrassment to our visitors.”

    Molly Jenkins, who is not a member of the church, said she attended a funeral at the church recently and immediately noticed the crucifix.

    "I was appalled at the sexualization of Christ,” said Jenkins, who is not Catholic. Jenkins said she contacted a Catholic friend to ask whether such crucifixes are common.

    Her friend, Seannene Smith, said she visited the church Friday and also was disturbed.

    "I was horrified,” Smith said. "I believe in freedom of expression. I believe in artistic freedom. I believe that a church is a holy place, and I certainly don’t want people telling anyone how to worship, but I was shocked, stunned, and if I hadn’t been prepared already, I think I would have just been ill.”

    Smith said she grew more concerned upon learning that students from the neighboring St. Charles Borromeo Catholic School regularly attend Mass in the church.

    "I’m already very sensitive because of the pedophilia issue,” Smith said, referencing sexual abuse scandals that have plagued the Catholic Church in recent years.

    Smith said she stopped going to church because of those scandals.

    "This doesn’t make it any better,” Smith said.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

    Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!
  • Robert Jones
    True Christian™
    True Christian™
    • Mar 2010
    • 333

    #2
    Re: Even Catholics Are Offended by This!

    I just had an urge to throw up when I saw this blasphemous depiction of Christ!
    Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Proverbs 23:13



    Run to the KJV1611!

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    • Oakland "Reb" Griner
      True Christian™
      True Christian™
      • Jun 2009
      • 2241

      #3
      Re: Even Catholics Are Offended by This!

      Is there no limit to their vile depravities?

      What is next, a transexulated Jesus with breastesses?

      Outrageous!
      Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are unGodly among them of all their unGodly deeds which they have unGodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which unGodly sinners have spoken against him.

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      • BelieverInGod
        Fourm Member
        Forum Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 9269

        #4
        Re: Even Catholics Are Offended by This!

        Originally posted by Oakland "Reb" Griner View Post
        Is there no limit to their vile depravities?

        What is next, a transexulated Jesus with breastesses?

        Outrageous!
        Oh, Brother, I don't know why, but when you typed that, I googled it just to see.

        Fortunately it does come up with no results.
        Drama queen

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        • Brother Enoch
          The Godliest Man in Godless Canuckistan
          True Christian™
          • Jun 2008
          • 4392

          #5
          Re: Even Catholics Are Offended by This!

          Originally posted by BelieverInGod View Post
          Oh, Brother, I don't know why, but when you typed that, I googled it just to see.

          Fortunately it does come up with no results.
          I just checked ("transexulated Jesus with breastesses"). There's one result.

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          • Pastor Ezekiel
            Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
             
            • Sep 2006
            • 78556

            #6
            Re: Even Catholics Are Offended by This!

            Did you notice that they've got Jesus wearing a half-slip too? What's with that?
            Who Will Jesus Damn?

            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

            Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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            • Bobby-Joe
              Landover Security Superviser
              Asset Loss Prevention and Personal Security Expert
              NOT angry and positively NOT Gay
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2006
              • 18405

              #7
              Re: Even Catholics Are Offended by This!

              Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
              Did you notice that they've got Jesus wearing a half-slip too? What's with that?
              Doubtless they will also have ones of Jesus bear foot in a bath robe with long hair like some kind of hippie.

              Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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              Time to come clean on Benghazi Mr Obama!

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              • Father Maurice Lester
                Ring-kissing Papist dog
                • Sep 2006
                • 3366

                #8
                Re: Even Catholics Are Offended by This!

                Trying to explain subtle usage of iconography both as homage and propellant in new works of art is tricky with most audiences and exponentially more difficult when the audience is mostly home-school drop-outs... as usual I will attempt illuminate the obvious for the oblivious.

                A good starting point would be the works of seminal modern Ethiopian artists like Desta and Boghossian. I say this because the work in question has not only a clear Coptic influence but also many bold dashes redolent of early Ethiopian iconography as seen through the brushes of related modernists like Desta and Boghossian.

                Reminding ourselves that Christian iconography has its roots in pre-renaissance art, the conscious decision to forgot perspective while including a Diaspora inspired sense of contemporary modernism shows us the artist is relying on both defined and obtuse proportions to entice the viewer. (Could one argue a hint of early Cubism?)

                While not the first artist to combine the seemingly disparate elements of traditional pre-renaissance art with re-purposed East-African influences, the artist in this instance has cleverly achieved a sense of focus on the issue of The Resurrection and thus brought an emotional third dimension to the experience not usually associated with that particular school.

                This is an outstanding piece that combines skill with passion, knowledge and a devote love of the subject at hand. I can only imagine the decades of inspiration this will bring to not only the regular church-goers but to the Priests and their special helpers who would kneel and pray to it many, many times a day.


                Bravo I say.





                Bless you, my presumptive penophiles,
                Father Mo





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                A Cardinal in the making.

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                • Pastor Ezekiel
                  Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                   
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 78556

                  #9
                  Re: Even Catholics Are Offended by This!

                  Leave it to a papist "father" to defend a picture of Jesus with massive wood.
                  Who Will Jesus Damn?

                  Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                  Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                  Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                  • Ezekiel Bathfire
                    Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
                    Christ's Rottweiler
                     
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 22916

                    #10
                    Re: Even Catholics Are Offended by This!

                    Originally posted by Father Maurice Lester View Post
                    [a lot of $10 words deleted without loss to meaning] (Could one argue a hint of early Cubism?)
                    No, you couldn't! The tallywhacker's round not square - look at it you old fraud, you must have seen enough of them.

                    [more glossy magazine stuff deleted]
                    I know you can speak American.
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                    “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

                    Author of such illuminating essays as,
                    Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                    • TC Patriot
                      AMERICA - LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!
                      True Christian™
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1060

                      #11
                      Re: Even Catholics Are Offended by This!

                      Obviously that horrible cartoonish painting was created by a Catholic priest.

                      Jesus loves Dick



                      Cheney/Palin 2012

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                      • Super Hanc Petram
                        Unsaved trash
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 8

                        #12
                        Re: Even Catholics Are Offended by This!

                        Originally posted by TC Patriot View Post
                        Obviously that horrible cartoonish painting was created by a Catholic priest.
                        Its called an Icon. The ignorance of the protestants would be amusing if it wasn't so tragic.

                        Also TC, what's with your sig line?
                        Let us pray also for heretics and schismatics:
                        that our Lord God would be pleased to rescue
                        them from their errors; and recall them to our
                        holy mother the Catholic and Apostolic Church.

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                        • Levi Jones
                          Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
                          Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
                          Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
                           
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 13930

                          #13
                          Re: Even Catholics Are Offended by This!

                          Originally posted by Super Hanc Petram View Post
                          Its called an Icon. The ignorance of the protestants would be amusing if it wasn't so tragic.
                          We prefer to call it a graven image, papist dog.
                          Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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