[Dr Laurence Niles]

We have reached an In-pass! you CLEARLY know nothing on the true 'laws' of thermodynamics, and if you think you have then i would love to hear to what level of academia you have studied it!

90% of Americans eh, where did you get that number from? a website that helps your argument no doubt, i could show you a 100 statistical websites with a variety of results to this question, but i shan't waste my time doing so.

I am under NO illusions as to what science is!

'the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment!'

''people who build our homes aren't scientists, even though new houses are built all the time''

Yes there called Builders you pleb! the science part of houses being built comes from, loads / weight / materials and how the 'laws' of physics dictates how these different materials and forces can be used to create designs and buildings! so the architect and engineer use both 'science' and 'atheistics' to create the design of said house, then the builders make them!

I cant believe i even had to type that out for someone!?!

''watch out for people who have been deluded by satan and try to tear people away from their belief in God''

I fully agree with this sentence! i do not want to tear you from God, Far from it! i just don't understand some of the views of science if heard on here!

''This Owain fellow is a very angry person indeed. A lack of morals from God seems to do that to a person.''

Im honestly not mad , just frustrated at YOUR/the people on this websites, ignorance!

I have seen the like of this post on your website;

Do Not Trust-
''Brain surgeons

The New Testement states clearly that the mind is in the heart. (Esther 6:6, Proverbs 23:7, Isaiah 10:7, Matt 9:4) People who claim the brain is used for thinking are plainly and simply anti-biblical. ''

HOW can someone even think this, let alone type it and expect anyone with a single shred of intelligence to go along with it!

Just what are you trying to acheive here? This is a website devoted to people who believe the bible (KJV1611) is inerrant. At yet you come here saying we are wrong. How would you feel if I was to tell you that phlogiston was wrong or that the speed of light never changes?

You would give me short thrift, I expect. What do you expect to gain by spitting in our beliefs? That you would get a big hug and a cookie?

Jesus smiles down on me.
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[Owain Hughes]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

We have reached an In-pass! you CLEARLY know nothing on the true 'laws' of thermodynamics, and if you think you have then i would love to hear to what level of academia you have studied it!

90% of Americans eh, where did you get that number from? a website that helps your argument no doubt, i could show you a 100 statistical websites with a variety of results to this question, but i shan't waste my time doing so.

I am under NO illusions as to what science is!

'the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment!'

''people who build our homes aren't scientists, even though new houses are built all the time''

Yes there called Builders you pleb! the science part of houses being built comes from, loads / weight / materials and how the 'laws' of physics dictates how these different materials and forces can be used to create designs and buildings! so the architect and engineer use both 'science' and 'atheistics' to create the design of said house, then the builders make them!

I cant believe i even had to type that out for someone!?!

''watch out for people who have been deluded by satan and try to tear people away from their belief in God''

I fully agree with this sentence! i do not want to tear you from God, Far from it! i just don't understand some of the views of science if heard on here!

''This Owain fellow is a very angry person indeed. A lack of morals from God seems to do that to a person.''

Im honestly not mad , just frustrated at YOUR/the people on this websites, ignorance!

I have seen the like of this post on your website;

Do Not Trust-
''Brain surgeons

The New Testement states clearly that the mind is in the heart. (Esther 6:6, Proverbs 23:7, Isaiah 10:7, Matt 9:4) People who claim the brain is used for thinking are plainly and simply anti-biblical. ''

HOW can someone even think this, let alone type it and expect anyone with a single shred of intelligence to go along with it!

[A Follower]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Owhine, seem to think we're somehow against science, which simply isn't true. There are some specific scientific theories that only a few of the most fundamentalist and close-minded scientists believe in, and that are demonstrably false, like evolution and the laws of thermodynamics, which we don't believe in (and 90% of Americans don't believe in evolution, so there is nothing extremist or unusual about our beliefs).

Real science and the Bible go together perfectly, but you have to watch out for people who have been deluded by satan and try to tear people away from their belief in God. Those people don't understand where science, progress and knowledge come from.

Proverbs 1:7
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge,
But fools despise wisdom and instruction.

That's right, if you are a scientist but do not fear God first and foremost, you are not a real scientist, you are a fool who despises wisdom. And that's a fact.

So we know this, and now you do too, but why do we fight so hard against this evil in our world? Because the KJV tells us we should oppose science falsely called so in 1 Timothy 6:20.


Second you seem quite confused about what science is and what engineering is, because you don't understand what science is, even though you profess to believe in it, is probably why you are unable to formulate any sort of coherent argument and have to resort to screaming and name-calling.

New words describing new items has nothing to do with science, just like the people who build our homes aren't scientists, even though new houses are built all the time. If you want to know where languages and words actually come from I suggest you read Genesis 11:1-9.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

if that means im going to burn in hell, then rather that than spend an eternity with the likes of the people on here! Because to me that is an ETERNITY IN HELL!! so either way im DOOMED

Ahh! I'm pulling my hair out here, you would not spend eternity with people like us: you would spend eternity praising Jesus! Who you are with is a minor point compared to praising Jesus for ever and ever.

Look, you may live science and all you think it can bring you but that's not how it works: you need to find your answers in the bible (KJV1611)

Psalm 15:2 He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart

Maybe if you stopped looking for rocketboots you might find you have wings...

All the best.
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[Redeemed Papist]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

This Owain fellow is a very angry person indeed. A lack of morals from God seems to do that to a person.

I'd love to know where he finds out about what God wants him to behave like.

He also seems to be a hypocrite on the name calling thing.

[Owain Hughes]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

writing is a science!? its a logically thought out process to put 'words' to objects emotions and so so much more! Writing itself is also proof of systems evolving through time! we started with drawings to describe life, this was then slowly turned into a written language, and went from foreign languages of the ancients, to the modern day version we have today (English) and is still evolving with new words being placed in the Oxford English Dictionary on a regular basis, also with the new technology, language has evolved again using sort hand terms like (lol) laugh out loud, and many more (b4) before ect ect...

Im kinda getting over talking to you all now to be honest, your narrow minded incites , don't gel with me and if that means im going to burn in hell, then rather that than spend an eternity with the likes of the people on here! Because to me that is an ETERNITY IN HELL!! so either way im DOOMED

god to heaven with you lot, or burn in hell! same thing to me !

I believe in God, and i think i am i kind person, the type to help the less fortunate than myself, which i do on a regular basis. I see no need for the hatred of science unlike yourselves who seem to think it is the devil at work. if that is so LOG OFF the INTERNET right now as you are involving yourselfs in the sins and lies of science, turn OFF your mobile and landline TELEPHONES, NEVER use any mode of transport other than your FEET again. UNPLUG your self from the MAINS electric that supplies your house! NEVER go to the DOCTORS again as God will heal the sick, NEVER take medicine! NEVER watch Television! ONLY THEN WILL YOU STOP CONTRADICTING YOURSELVES WHEN IT COMES TO SCIENCE AND GOD!

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

no writing or text,

Writing was around long before science, pal! Or don't you consider the Bible(KJV1611) writing?

Jesus has my back!

[Owain Hughes]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Stop being 'dishonest and fraud' by quoting God! not only that but all the quotes work against you for my gain aswell!

''Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;''

Nothing i have said or quoted is UNTRUE!! i Rejoiceth in the truth SCIENCE tells us aswell as the BIBLE, (morality from the bible) (Facts from science)


I makes me so mad when people revel in ignorance and don't get that God is all we need to know the world.

If all we knew was God, we wouldn't have medicine, schools, transport, technology, the list is SO vast im going to stop there! we'd be like cave men hitting things with clubs. no science, no progress! no progression, no writing or text, NO BIBLE!

God gave us the most precious gift, not only of life! but with our minds! we must use them! exploring space and creating technology isnt a sin! but some of its applications are, (the internet) for example a force for so much good and took some of the most powerful minds to create, but can be manipulated for sin, such as self abusive masturbation! this is were Gods teachings should come into place!

Creating things using our Gods given intellect to me is Ok, but we must obey Gods moral code when using them!

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

..snip...

Way to quote wiki without attribution

Maybe you did not know but that is dishonest and fraud

Psalm 10:7 His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: under his tongue is mischief and vanity

Ezekiel 22:13 Behold, therefore I have smitten mine hand at thy dishonest gain which thou hast made, and at thy blood which hath been in the midst of thee

Rather than trying to sound clever (while copying wiki) maybe you start looking for the Truth™in God

Psalm 25:5 Lead me in thy truth, and teach me: for thou art the God of my salvation; on thee do I wait all the day.

Everything you need to know will come if you know God.

Psalm 25:10 All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.

God will set you straight: He's the best teacher there is

Romans 2:2 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.

I makes me as mad as all to get out when people revel in ignorance and don't get that God is all we need to know the world

1 Corinthians 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

It's all in the good book (KJV Bible 1611)!

Yours in Christ!

[Owain Hughes]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

the internet & Einstein

The internet itself as an idea, is possible without Einstein, as the 'laws' of physics and Relativity already exist! Science doesnt make the rules,(lets get that straight) this is NEVER said in science, it mearly observes the 'laws' and learns about them, to then further our endless human thirst for knowledge and understanding, which i believe is a gift from God himself ! But i digress, the 'laws' of Gravity and Relativity help keep in flight the satellites that orbit our planet as we speak and also keeps us in touch with where they are using GPS technology. This in turn, provides us with the internet, GPS, and MANY MANY other uses!

I use your words straight back on you!

Maybe you should concentrate on your own flaws instead of calling people names.

WHICH HAPPENS A LOT ON THIS WEBSITE! ive seen all types of racism, and hatred name calling on here! i myself have been called a whore along with many things!

[Wide-Open]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

Dear loudmouth,

I'm still waiting for the link between Einstein and the internet.

Maybe you should concentrate on your own flaws instead of calling people names.

Well?

[Owain Hughes]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

''Are you actually suggesting that Einstein created these "laws" you worship and before him they didn't exist? Look, friend, GPS is a big con to screw you of your tax dollars. It can't work because your so-called satellites would have to be outside the firmament.''


Seriously, WHAT ARE YOU ON ABOUT! get a brain! im SO appalled that in 2012 this backwards mentality is still alive??!! OF COURSE IM NOT SUGGESTING EINSTEIN CREATED THE 'LAWS' YOU RETARD! NO ONE,, until now could possibly even entertain that idea?! READ what i wrote again and get back to me when you get a grip! GPS is a con hahaha, so you never use a sat nav then? or fly by plane? or use a mobile telephone? they all use satellites outside the firmament you absolute TOOL!


Oh the irony in this sentence from YOU!

''you seem to believe an awful lot that you read in some book''

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''If science didn't make the rules they explain why planets don't move in epicycles anymore Mr Smarty pants?''

Let us start with 'if science didnt make the rules' NO IT DIDNT! GOD DID YOU IDIOT!
'Planets do not move in epicycles' Beacuse we do not live in ancient Greece and have over 2000 years of scientific knowledge of the universe!


In the Ptolemaic system of astronomy, the epicycle (literally: on the circle in Greek) was a geometric model used to explain the variations in speed and direction of the apparent motion of the Moon, Sun, and planets. It was first proposed by Apollonius of Perga at the end of the 3rd century BC and formalized by Ptolemy of the Thebaid in his 2nd-century AD astronomical treatise the Almagest. In particular it explained the retrograde motion of the five planets known at the time. Secondarily, it also explained changes in the apparent distances of the planets from Earth.
It is called Ptolemaic after the Greek astronomer Ptolemy, although it had been developed by previous Greek astronomers such as Apollonius of Perga and Hipparchus of Rhodes, who used it extensively, during the second century BC, almost three centuries before Ptolemy. Epicyclical motion is used in the Antikythera Mechanism, an ancient Greek astronomical device for computing the phase and position of the Moon using four gears, two of them engaged in an eccentric way that closely approximates Kepler's second law, i.e. the Moon moves faster at perigee and slower at apogee.
In the Ptolemaic system, the planets are assumed to move in a small circle called an epicycle, which in turn moves along a larger circle called a deferent. Both circles rotate eastward and are roughly parallel to the plane of the Sun's orbit (ecliptic). The orbits of planets in this system are epitrochoids.
Despite the fact that the Ptolemaic system is considered geocentric, the planets' motion was not thought to be actually centered on the Earth. Instead, the deferent was centered on a point halfway between the Earth and another point called the equant. The epicycle, meanwhile, rotated and revolved along the deferent with uniform motion. The rate at which the planet moved on the epicycle was fixed such that the angle between the center of the epicycle and the planet was the same as the angle between the earth and the sun.
Ptolemy did not predict the relative sizes of the planetary deferents in the Almagest. All of his calculations were done with respect to a normalized deferent. This is not to say that he believed the planets were all equidistant. He did guess at an ordering of the planets. Later he calculated their distances in the Planetary Hypotheses.
For superior planets the planet would typically move through in the night sky slower than the stars. Each night the planet would "lag" a little behind the star. This is prograde motion. Occasionally, near opposition, the planet would appear to move through in the night sky faster than the stars. This is retrograde motion. Ptolemy's model, in part, sought to explain this behavior.
The inferior planets were always observed to be near the sun, appearing only shortly before sunrise or shortly after sunset. To accommodate this, Ptolemy's model fixed the motion of Mercury and Venus so that the line from the equant point to the center of the epicycle was always parallel to the earth-sun line.


It's funny how no one notices stuff like gravity lensing except scientists.

http://aether.lbl.gov/www/classes/p139/A.jpg

do you notice the BLUE in this image around the galaxies? are you a scientist? END OF DISCUSSION!

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

The internet itself as an idea, is possible without Einstein, as the 'laws' of physics and Relativity already exist! Science doesnt make the rules,(lets get that straight) this is NEVER said in science, it mearly observes the 'laws' and learns about them, to then further our endless human thirst for knowledge and understanding, which i believe is a gift from God himself ! But i digress, the 'laws' of Gravity and Relativity help keep in flight the satellites that orbit our planet as we speak and also keeps us in touch with where they are using GPS technology. This in turn, provides us with the internet, GPS, and MANY MANY other uses

Are you actually suggesting that Einstein created these "laws" you worship and before him they didn't exist? Look, friend, GPS is a big con to screw you of your tax dollars. It can't work because your so-called satellites would have to be outside the firmament.

We know who created everything and that nothing existed before He created them...

You seem to believe an awful lot that just pops out of your head or that you read in some book or saw on the interwebs.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: PROOF God is REAL!

The internet itself as an idea, is possible without Einstein, as the 'laws' of physics and Relativity already exist! Science doesnt make the rules,(lets get that straight) this is NEVER said in science, it mearly observes the 'laws' and learns about them, to then further our endless human thirst for knowledge and understanding, which i believe is a gift from God himself ! But i digress, the 'laws' of Gravity and Relativity help keep in flight the satellites that orbit our planet as we speak and also keeps us in touch with where they are using GPS technology. This in turn, provides us with the internet, GPS, and MANY MANY other uses

If science didn't make the rules they explain why planets don't move in epicycles anymore Mr Smarty pants?

It's funny how no one notices stuff like gravity lensing except scientists.

[Owain Hughes]

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I'm clearly not welcome on this website, and that is ok with me, im not against God in the slightest and am willing to accept him in my life. But i shall never adopt the attitudes present here! God bless you all

and to quote a fellow member of the Landover Baptist Church & God himself ;

Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.