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  • jessev
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    Re: PROOF God is REAL!

    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    That's because of sin, pal.
    So, if that is in fact true, does that then mean that we're less sinful today than we were back then? There was a greater percentage of the population a couple hundred years ago who were religious than there are today, so I don't think I understand the parallel you're trying to suggest there as it doesn't make any sense.

    However, through scientific discovery, people have been able to help cure cancers and certain diseases. We can now look for genetic markers of hereditary diseases so you can get an idea if you may have that particular disease sometime in the future as well. It's the understanding of physics and chemistry that have helped us live longer.

    Though, yes the statement "cleanliness is next to Godliness", is a good statement when it was first made (though I don't actually know where it comes from off the top of my head) because cleanliness is the best way to protect against viruses, diseases, and other illnesses.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Originally posted by jessev View Post
    Methuselah was one individual, not everyone. The average lifespan a couple hundred years ago was about 40 and was that way for a significant time.
    That's because of sin, pal.

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  • Redeemed Papist
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    Originally posted by jessev View Post
    Methuselah was one individual, not everyone. The average lifespan a couple hundred years ago was about 40 and was that way for a significant time.
    Do you believe everything you see written in books? Or do you have some sort of time machine and a census-gathering kit?

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  • jessev
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    Methuselah was one individual, not everyone. The average lifespan a couple hundred years ago was about 40 and was that way for a significant time.

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  • Jack O'fagan
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    Originally posted by jessev View Post
    I appreciate the reply, though I must say that I do not personally idealize drugs nor do I force the gay deathstyle on anyone either as I'm not gay. And I am a libertarian because I believe in individual freedom and make their own choices rather than having the government decide everything for you. Which is happening more and more these days.

    Though the Bible has many things in it, most of the modern amenities that we have today has come from science and technology derived from technology. We wouldn't have computers to write on this forum without it. We wouldn't have cars, or Air conditioning. We've doubled the life expectancy of people through the application of science.

    The Bible is wonderful for spiritual guidance, but science definitely has it's place in the world. As most of the things we have and use today is derived from science.
    Ha! That's rubbish.

    People used to live much longer than they do today.

    Genesis 5:27 And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.

    GLORY!

    Jack

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  • jessev
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    Well, perhaps gifts by God, but were they not made by man? I did watch the video that was given in your post. It's a good video and I made a few notes here and there. I'll not bore you with them as they would likely not be read anyways. Suffice it to say, there were a number of things in the video that were not truthful, I must say. If you would like me to elaborate, I will.

    Either way, the video didn't really show much about the arguments previously made. Here, I often read that science has no place with God, yet in this video most of the goal was try to include science with God. Or at least show that Christians can indeed be scientists. I do not argue against this point as there have been religious people who are scientists throughout recent history. But most of what we use today is based off scientific principles and observations and ideas that were not stated in the Bible. Or at least not elaborated. There are some things mentioned in the Bible that were observations. Like how the oceans had currents. But this was known long before the Bible was written. Still a good thing to know within the book, however.

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  • VictoryOS
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    Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
    Shout Glory sister! You said a mouthful there! A mouthful of HOLINESS!
    Thank you, Pastor. I'm happy to have pleased you.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Originally posted by jessev View Post

    The Bible is wonderful for spiritual guidance, but science definitely has it's place in the world. As most of the things we have and use today is derived from science.
    Wrong again. Everything we have and use today are gifts from God.

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  • jessev
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    I appreciate the reply, though I must say that I do not personally idealize drugs nor do I force the gay deathstyle on anyone either as I'm not gay. And I am a libertarian because I believe in individual freedom and make their own choices rather than having the government decide everything for you. Which is happening more and more these days.

    Though the Bible has many things in it, most of the modern amenities that we have today has come from science and technology derived from technology. We wouldn't have computers to write on this forum without it. We wouldn't have cars, or Air conditioning. We've doubled the life expectancy of people through the application of science.

    The Bible is wonderful for spiritual guidance, but science definitely has it's place in the world. As most of the things we have and use today is derived from science.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
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    Originally posted by VictoryOS View Post
    I can simplify things even more.

    God is great! God is good! God made everything you see so stop trying to make scientifical explanations!

    All the science you need to know is between the covers of the KJV Bible. Plus it's so easy to understand, even I get some of it. So open a Bible, go to church, and stop wasting your brain with this ScIeNce garbage.
    Shout Glory sister! You said a mouthful there! A mouthful of HOLINESS!

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  • Little Donkey
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    Originally posted by jessev View Post

    ,,,I do drink a little from time to time...

    ...I've actually gotten back to school to finish getting my AA degree...

    ...As for political ideology, I consider myself much more a libertarian...
    Friend, you've come to the right place. I hope you can stay strong and get right with Jesus so you can give up the booze and then one day completely throw off all your libertard hang ups, like idolizing illegal drugs and forcing the gay deathstyle onto everybody.

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  • VictoryOS
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    Originally posted by jessev View Post
    I don't intend for this to be gibberish. Unfortunately, cell biology and biochemistry is a complicated field. I can only do so much to simplify it.
    I can simplify things even more.

    God is great! God is good! God made everything you see so stop trying to make scientifical explanations!

    All the science you need to know is between the covers of the KJV Bible. Plus it's so easy to understand, even I get some of it. So open a Bible, go to church, and stop wasting your brain with this ScIeNce garbage.

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  • jessev
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    I apologize for the post being a bit lengthy, but I wanted to be thorough.

    By the way, I'm a man, not woman. Though as no one can directly see my face, I can understand the confusion as the name by itself can be a bit androgynous. However, most women tend to spell it with an "i" in the name.

    To Catherine Moore:

    Receptors in cell biology is defined as such: any of various specific protein molecules in surface membranes of cells and organelles to which complementary molecules, as hormones, neurotransmitters, antigens, or antibodies, may become bound.

    It's basically how one cell communicates with another cell. Here is an illustration that shows some of these extracellular (outside the cell) proteins. Here's another one that shows the neurotransmitters in the nerve cells of the brain.

    Chemicals affect the brain in a number of ways a couple examples were previously stated. They travel through the bloodstream much of the time. The previous link also shows many of the chemicals that exist in the brain towards the latter half of the page.

    Admittedly, the way ATP is formed is a complicated method. The Citric Acid Cycle is what forms the energy molecule ATP.

    Also the argument between how one reacts from a source of heat doesn't make much sense. In essence, you still said that they both occur in the same way, the only difference is that God gave us the ability to react to a stimuli, whereas animals just react by themselves?

    Giving a different example of stimuli, I've had a dog in the past that was afraid of thunderstorms. He'd go under the table shaking during the thunderstorm. Is that not the feeling of fear that the dog is having?

    Just so you know, I don't take drugs at all. I don't smoke, either. I do drink a little from time to time, but rarely very much.


    Laurence Niles:
    I don't intend for this to be gibberish. Unfortunately, cell biology and biochemistry is a complicated field. I can only do so much to simplify it.

    You are correct in that ATP to ADP does not directly relate to synaptic reactions in the brain. I was merely speaking of the fact that chemical reactions heavily exist within every one of the cells in our body. As mentioned above, there are many chemicals that exist in the brain that react in different ways to affect it. It's not 'all' electrical input/output.

    I've actually gotten back to school to finish getting my AA degree in Zoology before transferring to a University. I've taken a few courses in Biology and really love the subject because it's really quite fascinating to me.

    What I post here has nothing to do with my college degree. It is not a requirement whatsoever. I come here out of my own curiosity and wonder. I simply wish to better understand the world around me. As for political ideology, I consider myself much more a libertarian than either a liberal or conservative.

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  • Dr Laurence Niles
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    There is no reason you should understand this gibberish, I expect.

    ATP to ATD has nothing to do with neuro chemical reactions in the synaptic clefts, nor the salt n pepper channels of electro chemical potential transmission, I imagine.

    I expect this young lady is in her first year is some secular university diploma mill who needs to post a quota of so called scientifical points on a God fearing forum as part of the liberal hate filled God mocking course requirements.

    For shame

    YIC

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  • Catherine Moore
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    I did read it, but I didn't understand a word.

    What are receptors? They sound like gay slang to me.

    What makes you think we have chemicals in our brain? I don't know what you do but I certainly wouldn't put any of those chemicals into my body, let alone directly into my brain. Electricity in the brain I can understand. That's how that godless heathen Dr Frankenstein made his creature after all. But chemicals? Come off the drugs, my friend.

    ATP? Conservapedia, normally a model of clarity, was far too confusing for me. Is that a diagram of a building?

    Moving an arm back from heat? I think you're mistaken here friend. Unthinking animals recoil from pain of course (Jude 1:10) but men don't do it because of a purely physical reaction. They do it because God gave us the reactions to do it (Job 38:36)

    I really should stop trying to read these scientifical posts. I think I need to go and lay down for a while.

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