[Hugo Feio]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

Stars move as the earth rotates on its own center. The north star is positioned on the center of this rotation, thats why its movement is minute and barely perceptible. If you take a long exposure photo at night you can see this movement. Any camera with manual mode can do this.

http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essentials/north-star-movement

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

The earth does not move at all.

Psalm 104:1-5 O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.….Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

Stars move as the earth rotates on its own center. The north star is positioned on the center of this rotation, thats why its movement is minute and barely perceptible. If you take a long exposure photo at night you can see this movement. Any camera with manual mode can do this.
http://earthsky.org/astronomy-essent...-star-movement

That would only work if you were standing at the North Pole, dear. Here in the Godly state of Iowa we're miles from the North Pole and yet the North Star doesn't move, which it would if the earth really did spin like some cosmic dreidel Jesus spun 6000 years ago.

[Johny Joe Hold]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

That would only work if you were standing at the North Pole, dear. Here in the Godly state of Iowa we're miles from the North Pole and yet the North Star doesn't move, which it would if the earth really did spin like some cosmic dreidel Jesus spun 6000 years ago.

Interesting how atheists are always able to make up an answer that fits their subjective beliefs. We point out the obvious, posters like Hugo have to come up with something, no matter how ridiculous.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

I hate to change the subject here, but as long as we're talking about the North Star we need to finally put to rest these spinning orbiting globe types once and for all - and that means talking about that limp wristed Frenchie Foucault and his pendulum.

Much like French Fries, these things have spread all over the place and in major cities in the world you can go see these things and you're supposed to sit and ponder - "see, that's proof that the earth is round and spinning".

Well, it's been debunked.

[Evilutionist Clive]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

If the Earth is spinning through space, and the surface of the earth at the equator moves at a speed of 1,000 miles per hour, and also traveling around the sun with a supposed orbital speed of about 19 miles per second, or 67,000 miles per hour, then why do the star trails look like the Earth is not moving at all, but the stars are rotating? Why doesn't the North Star move?

Is this woman stupid or what?


You say you homeschool your kids. If you were in Australia, child care workers would knock on your door and rescue your children from you.


What you're practicing is called child abuse.


And to answer your question, a Pole Star remains stationary because it's positioned so close to the earth's rotational axis, that despite a rotating earth, its position "appears to be" stationary.


Even a 5th grader can answer this question. Of course not the homeschooled ones with child-abusing mothers like yourself.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

Is this woman stupid or what?


You say you homeschool your kids. If you were in Australia, child care workers would knock on your door and rescue your children from you.


What you're practicing is called child abuse.


And to answer your question, a Pole Star remains stationary because it's positioned so close to the earth's rotational axis, that despite a rotating earth, its position "appears to be" stationary.


Even a 5th grader can answer this question. Of course not the homeschooled ones with child-abusing mothers like yourself.

Sir, you are very rude to somebody who is simply trying to help you.

In her own little way Sister Mary is simply asking the kind of questions which have stumped Atheist for hundreds of years since Atheism was invented as a way to hate God in a codified way.

Although she may lack the genitalitular qualifications to actual teach you could learn a lot from her serendipitous posting style.

1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence

I didn’t read most of your post but you haven’t refuted her position.

YIC

[Evilutionist Clive]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

Sir, you are very rude to somebody who is simply trying to help you.

In her own little way Sister Mary is simply asking the kind of questions which have stumped Atheist for hundreds of years since Atheism was invented as a way to hate God in a codified way.

Although she may lack the genitalitular qualifications to actual teach you could learn a lot from her serendipitous posting style.

1 Timothy 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence

I didn’t read most of your post but you haven’t refuted her position.

YIC

All right I agree, I may have crossed a line. I should not have called Mrs. Mary Ethelreda stupid for being a woman. I painfully regret my words.


Do accept my apology.


But what the hell is this -- seriously you're handing out infractions? Am I a fucking baby?


I offered my sincere apology to the lady. That should settle it in a real world. Moreover, I am disturbed by your insinuation that women are, in fact, stupid. That's gross. Those are not my views. I consider women equal to men in all respects.


Again, I would apologize to this lady for my misogynistic remark. But there's far more misogyny in these 'friendly forums'. Never mind.

Dear Evolutionist Clyde,

You have received an infraction at The Landover Baptist Church Forum.

Reason: Insolent Backsass To A True Christian™
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Sir, calling someone stupid, even a woman is not considered good form on this friendly forum.

Children read these pages and learning that women are stupid is something to be done sensitively in one’s own home at one’s father’s (or friendly Uncle’s) knee.

Kids don’t need to learn this from a stranger without the love of Jesus in his heart.

YIC
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This infraction is worth 100 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

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[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

Is this woman stupid or what?


You say you homeschool your kids. If you were in Australia, child care workers would knock on your door and rescue your children from you.


What you're practicing is called child abuse.


And to answer your question, a Pole Star remains stationary because it's positioned so close to the earth's rotational axis, that despite a rotating earth, its position "appears to be" stationary.


Even a 5th grader can answer this question. Of course not the homeschooled ones with child-abusing mothers like yourself.

Nonsense. If that was the case, the Star of Bethlehem would have led the Wise Men to the North Pole.

[keseos]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

If the Earth is spinning through space, and the surface of the earth at the equator moves at a speed of 1,000 miles per hour, and also traveling around the sun with a supposed orbital speed of about 19 miles per second, or 67,000 miles per hour, then why do the star trails look like the Earth is not moving at all, but the stars are rotating? Why doesn't the North Star move? Why do we see the same constellations as man did thousands of years ago if the earth whips past them at such tremendous speed (Amos 5:8)? How are they supposed to fall if we blast past them (Mark 13:25)?

I love science. I'm a homeschooler and love to teach my children how Jesus created the world, but to call it "evidence"? "Facts?" To lay it as your epistemology? That's just silly. The Holy Bible has a perfect monopoly on truth. It has no contradictions; no fault.

Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.
1 Chronicles 16:30

The Lord reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the Lord is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.
Psalms 93:1

Say among the heathen that the Lord reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously.
Psalms 96:10

Then spake Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
Joshua 10:12

Atheists can't explain this, so they make up mythologies to corrupt children:

that photo is a long exposure picture, and if you had read what they had said and all the evidence they had collected. the earth has been proven by how during the year that the stars used for the zodiac 1) change place 2) cannot see them in their month/time they are closest and such, and the north star can be seen by anywhere on the planet because of how far it is from the earth and how big it is.

Had you read the

Bible

, you would know that the earth does

not

move!

Psalms 104:5
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

Had you educated yourself in

science

, you would know that the

constellations change

over time. Even if the atheist notion of constellations and stars and Old Age of the Earth were right,

you

would still be mistaken. We do

not

see the the same constellations as man did thousands of years ago. Here's an image that shows from the secular perspective how the

Big Dipper

has changed over time (and will change).

Now knowing the Bible nor anything about secular astrology is

understandable

but not excusable. Please,

any kind of education

would become you more than the ignorance. I'm praying for you.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

yes and because they change it then proves the theist of the universe is still expanding.

That would only work if you were standing at the North Pole, dear. Here in the Godly state of Iowa we're miles from the North Pole and yet the North Star doesn't move, which it would if the earth really did spin like some cosmic dreidel Jesus spun 6000 years ago.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

Here's an image that shows from the secular perspective how the Big Dipper has changed over time (and will change).

yes and because they change it then proves the theist of the universe is still expanding.

Actually. It doesn't. By now you might have realized that to defend secular science you should be familiar with it, not just trust your fallible mind to produce good data.

From the atheist viewpoint, astronomy, the expansion of the Universe is not based on changing asterisms. The stars that you see (again, according to the secular explanation) all belong to the local group of stars called the Milky Way Galaxy. The movement of these stars within the Milky Way Galaxy does not require any expansion of the whole universe. The circumnavigation of stars on their paths around the galaxy is adequate.

Expansion of the Universe has been justified based on the red shift. In addition, the velocity of their recession is directly proportional to the distance of the galaxy from us. This is called the Hubble law named after a secular philosopher. To debate science in a proficient manner you should study it. To debate religion in a proficient manner you should study it, too. It seems that you world view is based on your subjective interpretations of some scattered data that you have been able not to miss. Are you willing to take the risk of education, putting your preconceptions to the test in an unbiased manner?

Ephesians 4:18
Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[Titus Templeton]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

Sometimes I feel like the deeper you dive into these kind of questions the closer you will find yourself with God's Logic. Sure some scientist could make up an answer of why the North Star is always at the same place. But that is simply tricks to deceive the mind. A good Jewish Attorney could come up with an explanation of why Stalin and Hitler were good people. It's like the snake in the Garden of Eden. Even the clearest rule made by God can be turned around and that is not only what scientist like to do. It's also something Satan likes to do. So clearly the North Star is fixed because God made it that way and any other explanation should be punished by law.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

that photo is a long exposure picture

I had to smile! My experience with photography may be limited to a few lighting effects but even so, I know what a time exposure looks like. Why are the paths of the stars a lot of little dots? I noticed this at once but there's another problem. In the middle of the "photograph" there's NOTHING. An empty space. If the theory were true, surely there'd be either a single dot.–.Polaris.–.or a little circle (if the thing were crooked) or something NOT like what we see?

[agnesaliencat]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

Because everything is moving. Also, the north star changes once every few thousand years, as Earth's poles aren't stationary.

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: Hey atheists, if the earth is moving through space, why does the North Star stay fixed in the sky?

Because everything is moving. Also, the north star changes once every few thousand years, as Earth's poles aren't stationary.

So, Angus, according to your logic the North Star is a light bulb that has to get changed every so often?


The mind boggles eh?


YIC
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