[Wide-Open]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Where abouts in the bible is the human genome mapped, again?

I forgot.

Who cares about gnomes?

He does mention dwarfs though:

Leviticus 21:20
Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;

[Whitski]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Also, drinking poison is fine:

Mark 16:17-18

[jono_100]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Who cares about gnomes?

He does mention dwarfs though:

Leviticus 21:20
Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;

Genomes not Gnomes

[Meek and Humble]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Genomes not Gnomes

No, it's spelled gnome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnome

Quit embarrassing yourself.

[Whitski]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

No, it's spelled gnome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnome

Quit embarrassing yourself.

No, it isn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnome

There you go, friend.

One of the greatest achievements of the late 20th Century.

Science bless humanity.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

No, it isn't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnome

There you go, friend.

One of the greatest achievements of the late 20th Century.

Science bless humanity.

Gnomes aren't real. They are hardly an achievement of science, more of fantasy literature. And I'm pretty sure they were invented before the 20th century.

[Katto-20]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Another absurd comment.
Your logic is like saying if a candle is burning and I am in the same room, I'd be incinerated. The sun is sized proportionate to the amount of light and heat God wants us to have.
Just like you install a house sized furnace in a house, an apartment sized in an apartment building, God sized the Sun for the Earth.

jono_100's logic is not like you refer. What he says is that the size of the sun is much greater than that of the Earth and the sheer intensity of that heat would burn everything.
If you were to build a house sized furnace in a house, and be in that house while it burns, you would be incinerated. Such a thing cannot be denied as if you were to, that would mean that you say that if you were to stand in a house that was on fire, that you would live through it.

The whole idea of science is to explain why things work the way it seems. Like that of religion, it is unproven to some. And yet some people believe it without a second thought. It is quite unfair to say what someone believes is wrong when you can say what you believe without being attacked.

Gnomes aren't real. They are hardly an achievement of science, more of fantasy literature. And I'm pretty sure they were invented before the 20th century.

You happen to ignore the spelling of what Whitski was referring to. He has been courteous enough to ensure that what he spelled was correct, the least you could do is return that.

I'm personally not against any particular belief, nor do I believe that the practice of science or religion is wrong. It is simply the choice of the person.
I have noticed however, that the people on this thread who consider their beliefs to be ultimate and to not be refuted are the ones whom follow this religious persuasion. I can understand the desire to want to say what you believe, but I don't feel that it is fair to attack someone else who believes another perspective.
To be a socially "normal" human being in today's society, (I say "normal" because I only refer to what I notice as the majority) it is important to understand as many perspectives as possible. Of course, you can say that you don't believe a perspective to be true, but in that case, it should be reciprocal, where people can say they don't believe your perspective.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

jono_100's logic is not like you refer. What he says is that the size of the sun is much greater than that of the Earth and the sheer intensity of that heat would burn everything.
If you were to build a house sized furnace in a house, and be in that house while it burns, you would be incinerated. Such a thing cannot be denied as if you were to, that would mean that you say that if you were to stand in a house that was on fire, that you would live through it.

That's all horse manure! The sun is NOT bigger than the earth! The sun is a small ball of light that hangs in the sky and orbits the earth.

The whole idea of science is to explain why things work the way it seems. Like that of religion, it is unproven to some. And yet some people believe it without a second thought. It is quite unfair to say what someone believes is wrong when you can say what you believe without being attacked.

It's not unfair at all. We are right, you are wrong. Get over yourself. God will not be as "accepting" of you and your anti-Christian prejudice when you face Him on Judgment Day

1 Timothy 6:10 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane [and] vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:

You happen to ignore the spelling of what Whitski was referring to. He has been courteous enough to ensure that what he spelled was correct, the least you could do is return that.

What are you talking about? He couldn't even spell gnome. He thought there was an "e" in it

I'm personally not against any particular belief, nor do I believe that the practice of science or religion is wrong. It is simply the choice of the person.

Then you are going to hell. Jesus is the ONLY way into heaven!

John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

“Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12).

I have noticed however, that the people on this thread who consider their beliefs to be ultimate and to not be refuted are the ones whom follow this religious persuasion. I can understand the desire to want to say what you believe, but I don't feel that it is fair to attack someone else who believes another perspective.

We are doing our God-given doing to rebuke evil wherever we see it. We do this because we want to save people from their delusions and help them find salvation and avoid eternity in hell. Why do you want people to be tortured forever in hell, exactly? Are you upset because you know you are going there that you want to drag as many other people with you as you can?!

Leviticus 19:17 "'Do not hate your brother in your heart. Rebuke your neighbor frankly so you will not share in his guilt.

Luke 17:3 So watch yourselves. "If your brother sins, rebuke him, and if he repents, forgive him.

1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

2 Timothy 4:2 preach the word; be urgent in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with all patience and teaching.

Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;


Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee


Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent


Proverbs 24:24 Whoever says to the wicked, “You are in the right,” will be cursed by peoples, abhorred by nations,
25 but those who rebuke the wicked will have delight, and a good blessing will come upon them.


Ecclesiastes 7:5 It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.


Jeremiah 2:19 The evil you yourselves have done will be your punishment, your errors will be your judge: be certain then, and see that it is an evil and a bitter thing to give up the Lord your God, and no longer to be moved by fear of me, says the Lord, the Lord of armies.

To be a socially "normal" human being in today's society, (I say "normal" because I only refer to what I notice as the majority) it is important to understand as many perspectives as possible. Of course, you can say that you don't believe a perspective to be true, but in that case, it should be reciprocal, where people can say they don't believe your perspective.

No, no and no. We have ZERO interest in being considered "normal" by the rebellious and evil people of this world. Jesus Christ promised us that if we stood true to His message we would be despised by the world, and you are affirming His prophecy even as you type.

2nd Chronicles19:2 And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD.

Matthew 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
Matthew 10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
John 15:20Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
John 15:21But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

2nd Corinthians 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2nd Corinthians 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2nd Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
2nd Corinthians 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

2nd Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.

1st John 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

2nd John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2nd John 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2nd John 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

[Katto-20]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

That's all horse manure! The sun is NOT bigger than the earth! The sun is a small ball of light that hangs in the sky and orbits the earth.

And that is your belief. I choose not to accept that, as that is my choice. You do not need to say it is "horse manure"; such a comment is unwarranted.

It's not unfair at all. We are right, you are wrong. Get over yourself. God will not be as "accepting" of you and your anti-Christian prejudice when you face Him on Judgment Day

You're telling me to get over myself when you are saying I am ant-Christian, when in reality, I am not. I hold no prejudice as I am knowledgeable on Christian Scripture. I do believe that you hold prejudice against myself as you are so willing to insult me without actually knowing me.

What are you talking about? He couldn't even spell gnome. He thought there was an "e" in it

He wasn't spelling gnome. He spelled "genome". There is a difference. The first is the fantastical creature from 19th Century literature. The second is a scientific "discovery". I've read on this forum that many of the people on here are knowledgeable with science. If you are one of these people, you would know he did not mean gnome like you seem to be so insistent upon.

Then you are going to hell. Jesus is the ONLY way into heaven!

If that is what happens, then I'll accept that fate. However, if it weren't to, would you be as accepting of such a fate?

[Katto-20]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Oh, also, I never said I despised you. That was your incorrect assumption. I am much more accepting of people than it you seem to be of me. So no, I am not affirming His prophecy. Simply proving that you, personally are being very impolite to a person who has not actually attacked anyone on this thread.

[Jerakk]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I am much more accepting of people than it you seem to be of me.

Than it you seem to? Do you even think before you post or just randomly bang your head against the keyboard hoping to have something coherent come out of it? It's obvious you don't put any thought what so ever in to what you try to say. The only thing you seem to care about is spreading your ignorance and hoping to get people to embrace satan.

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Oh, also, I never said I despised you. That was your incorrect assumption. I am much more accepting of people than it you seem to be of me. So no, I am not affirming His prophecy. Simply proving that you, personally are being very impolite to a person who has not actually attacked anyone on this thread.

Now Katto, that is a pack of lies, isn't it. You first post was not a 'How do you do', was it? No, it was an outright attack on me. You walked up to me, having never met me and you spit in my face. That was not nice.

You need to read the entire thread before you make a complete fool of yourself (opps, you already did that, never mind).

[Katto-20]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

You are sly and deceitful, like your spiritual father, Satan. Anyone who is not Christian is evil. Sorry.

I just have my own mind to use. I read on the introduction thread that Atheists should not blindly quote from other online sources as everyone here has read them before and that they should think for themselves. But why do you quote so heavily from Scripture? Do you not choose to think for yourself like you expect people not of your specific religion to do?
Also, I am a Christian. Just not the same form of Christianity as you are. But of course, as it has been stated many times on threads all over this forum, if you aren't this one specific subset of Christianity, you are damned.

Than it you seem to? Do you even think before you post or just randomly bang your head against the keyboard hoping to have something coherent come out of it? It's obvious you don't put any thought what so ever in to what you try to say. The only thing you seem to care about is spreading your ignorance and hoping to get people to embrace satan.

I have no intention of "hoping to get people to embrace Satan". You are yourself ignorant if you believe such a thing. May I return a question? "Than it you seem to?" What do you mean by this? I don't believe this is a coherent sentence, but if you can explain what you mean, I'm happy to accept fault in that I think that you didn't seem to think about checking your post before posting.

Now Katto, that is a pack of lies, isn't it. You first post was not a 'How do you do', was it? No, it was an outright attack on me. You walked up to me, having never met me and you spit in my face. That was not nice.

You need to read the entire thread before you make a complete fool of yourself (opps, you already did that, never mind).

No, I didn't spit in your face. I simply stated that what you were insisting jono_100 meant was not his actual intention. I apologize if it came across in such a way.

And I did read the entire thread. All 80 pages of it thus far. I have seen some idiotic people who believe in science refuse to accept that what you believe, you will not stop believing in any case. I'm not ignorant enough to think anyone will change what you think.
All I came on to say was that you were both only seeing one side.

Also, did you get in trouble for your spelling error like what jono_100 did? Or is that punishment only for the "unsaved trash"?

[JohnnyGee]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

If the sun were made of a combustible material such as coal, it would have enough fuel to sustain itself for 50000 years at most. The sun is billions of years old. It is fueled by nuclear reactions. Whether or not one is Christian or not has nothing to do with the fact that the sun is not made of coal. I am a Christian but you must understand that the science is not wrong. Scientists are not secular communist atheists. They are professionals. You all sound ridiculous claiming that the world is flat, and the sun is made of coal. Get it together

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

If the sun were made of a combustible material such as coal, it would have enough fuel to sustain itself for 50000 years at most. The sun is billions of years old.

Which is perfectly fine and makes sense in a Biblical worldview because the universe is only 6,000 years old. No one knows how old the sun is. There were no humans billions of years ago to sit around and see it pop into existence and then keep track of how long it's been around.

It is fueled by nuclear reactions. Whether or not one is Christian or not has nothing to do with the fact that the sun is not made of coal. I am a Christian but you must understand that the science is not wrong. Scientists are not secular communist atheists. They are professionals. You all sound ridiculous claiming that the world is flat, and the sun is made of coal. Get it together

You're a "Christian", now, I see. If you don't mind me asking, which parts of the Bible do you think are flat out wrong (besides seven-day YEC), and which parts do you believe in?