[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Here is my work to calculate how far the sun is from the earth knowing only the angle from sun to earth to venus, and the distance from earth to venus at the position of greatest elongation.

Identity: cos(x)=a/h for a right triangle.

Looks like scribbling and conjecture to me. Nobody can see anything "98,000,000" miles away. Not even the burning remains of the sun.

Colossians 2:8 "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."

In Jesus

[Bible Student]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

OK I have the paper, I put a dot on it I looked at the sun and drew a line, ran out of paper went out the door and walked until I hit the water, STOPED due to the fact that ONLY Jesus can walk on water. I then realised that you thought you where the sun "me" and gave up due to the fact that you are an idiot. By the way it was 78.F out side, lovely day in Key West. That however does not change the fact that you are an idiot and who the hell is Venus? She sounds like a nigra stripper or a damn cross dressing Homersexural.

Brother James, sometimes your astute observation astounds me. You are right on target. This is a picture of Venus the Stripper from her InterWebs page.

http://www.myspace.com/msocean

[Bible Student]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

If you change the length of the hypotenuse without changing anything else, then the triangle becomes not a right triangle and the pythagorean theorem is not applicable. We are only using the case when Sun to venus to earth gives you a right angle. We could also use the case when venus to sun to earth gives you a right angle.

Here is my work to calculate how far the sun is from the earth knowing only the angle from sun to earth to venus, and the distance from earth to venus at the position of greatest elongation.

Identity: cos(x)=a/h for a right triangle.

It seems to me that here is only one second of the year that your diagram will result in a right triangle. If Venus moves or the earth moves then you still loose the right angle. You fixed the equation.

[TheFlash]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I didn't say it was easy to apply this equation, only that it can be used in the right circumstances to get the right answer. And we have powerful enough computers now to calculate all the values involved down to many decimal places and precisely the right moment. Plus, there are better ways to calculate our distance from the sun now anyways.

For all the admonishment of smut on this forum, its pretty funny that you just posted a naked chick in the shower.

I hope you do not harbor a sincere belief that there is not planet Venus.

[GOD=life]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

For all the admonishment of smut on this forum, its pretty funny that you just posted a naked chick in the shower.

It's okay when it's for educational purposes. In this case to demonstrate that Venus is a Stripper, not a Planet.

We watch a lot of such material to safeguard other Christians.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=44974

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

If you change the length of the hypotenuse without changing anything else, then the triangle becomes not a right triangle and the pythagorean theorem is not applicable. We are only using the case when Sun to venus to earth gives you a right angle. We could also use the case when venus to sun to earth gives you a right angle.

The problem is: How do you know when Venus to Sun will make a right triangle?

Here is my work to calculate how far the sun is from the earth knowing only the angle from sun to earth to venus, and the distance from earth to venus at the position of greatest elongation.

Identity: cos(x)=a/h for a right triangle.

How did you arrive at the value for x as 46 degrees? What I remember from my high school geometry class is that every triangle has angles that add up to a sum of 180 degrees. A right angle is automatically 90 degrees. That leaves the other two angles to have to add up to 90 degrees. If one angle is 46, the other is 44. But how do you know x is not 30 degrees and the other angle 60?

[TheFlash]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspects_of_Venus. the angle varies +/- 1 degree so i picked the middle. it only changes the numbers very slightly.

[James Dewitt]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Brother James, sometimes your astute observation astounds me. You are right on target. This is a picture of Venus the Stripper from her InterWebs page.

http://www.myspace.com/msocean

Yea that guy thought he was fooling around with a total moron. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that only a Nigra stripper would name herself Venus. Its to bad he does not understand that the sun is not millions of mile away.

[TheFlash]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Venus was the Roman goddess of love. We named most of the solar system's planets and moons after Roman gods. They are just names. Im sure you can find white strippers named Venus.

Also, pastor I'm sorry i didnt quote the post to keep the continuity of our side-dicussion.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Venus was the Roman goddess of love. We named most of the solar system's planets and moons after Roman gods. They are just names. Im sure you can find white strippers named Venus.

Also, pastor I'm sorry i didnt quote the post to keep the continuity of our side-dicussion.

We are not pagans here. Don't go teaching your nonsense about greek "gods"!

[Bible Student]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

We are not pagans here. Don't go teaching your nonsense about greek "gods"!

Next he will be bring the topic of Greek homersexurality into a Christian discussion of science.

[Aristotle]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I'm not missing the point. It is a circle of assumption, hence, the name. However, circular logic does not compromise the veracity of the target - it compromises the validity of assumptions and conclusions made off that logic.

A giant blue octopus created the world and we know this is true because the giant blue octopus wrote this letter and therefore the document is true.

From this, we have no idea of knowing whether or not the giant blue octupus really did create the world or not. However, we cannot, from this argument, use the letter the giant blue octupus wrote to prove that he exists. This is the point I was making - that the Bible cannot prove God's existence.

Your argument starts with a false premise. The blue octopus is a finite being, else it would not be an octopus. Only GOD is infinite, with the infinite power to creat the Universe. If you re-define your octopus to have all the properties of GOD, then you have just assigned another name for GOD.

We know the properties of GOD by reading his book, the BIBLE (KJV).

[one_more_atheist_troll]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Praise the Lord! He has shown me how to prove scientifically that the sun is no more than 500 miles overhead.

Here is the proof:

To start off with, the sun is hot enough to glow yellow, so we can use Wein's Displacement Law to determine the temperature.

Wein's Displacement Law:
Peak Wavelength in meters = displacement constant / temperature in Kelvin

Yellow light has a wavelength between 570nm and 580nm, so we'll solve for 575nm. Since we are working with nanometers rather than meters, we'll simplify the math by multiplying the displacement constant by 10^9.

575 = 2897768.5/T
575 * T = 2897768.5
T = 2897768.5/575
T = 5039.6° K (8611.6° F)

So the sun is about 5039.6° Kelvin.

Now, the average temperature of the earth is 59° F, or about 288° K. The mean temperature gradient of the troposphere is 6° K/km, so let's solve for the distance.

d = (5039.6 - 288)/6
d = 791.9 km (491.1 miles)

There you have it. The sun is roughly 491.1 miles overhead. Depending on the exact shade of yellow (whether it's closer to 570nm or 580nm), this figure could be off by as much as 5 miles. However, I don't have a spectrometer handy, and I'm willing to live with an uncertainty of ±5 miles. It's not like I'm planning to visit anytime soon -- my shoes would melt .

The LORD is so good to me. Praise the sweet name of Jesus.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

You need to factor in the fact that there are no atmosphere in space, therefore the heat from the sun won't be dissipated/refracted.

[James Dewitt]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

You need to factor in the fact that there are no atmosphere in space, therefore the heat from the sun won't be dissipated/refracted.

Have you ever been to space. Judge Judy would call that hearsay

[one_more_atheist_troll]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Have you ever been to space. Judge Judy would call that hearsay

*sigh* im sure that if there is an atmosphere in space, then there wouldn't be a need for 1.7 billion dollor planes to send people into space. because then we can just hop onto the nearest 747 and be on our way to mars.