[Cranky Old Man]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Light does 'travel' at a speed of 3*10^8 m/s.

Light doesn't "travel". Light is instantaneous. If you switch on a light the room gets lit immediately, you don't see the light "traveling" across the room. This is easy to check with your own God given eyes.

I will be happy to refute any claims you make against science except for evolution and old earth.

So you admit in advance you can not refute those?

[mitcho]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

I admit that I can't refute those because I agree with them. The reason you don't see it move across the room is because it takes such a small amount of time but yes, it does move across not instantaneuous.

[mitcho]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

The earth is round, the earth revolves around the sun, the sun is made of helium and hydrogen, light moves ect ect
They are facts and I will have you know that these claims do not break any biblical principals.

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

...............The particles are absolutely tiny and can pass between the atoms that make up most matter.

False.
These so called particles can't pass through anything but glass. But then so can cold and heat.

I will be happy to refute any claims you make against science except for evolution and old earth.

I sure it would make you happy to call God a liar, Satan worshiper!

[mitcho]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Alright, you raise a good point, visible light can pass only though transparent material like glass and clear water. Higher energy electromagnetic radiation however such as UV, X-rays and gamma rays which are all made of these same photons can. The photons do not do any damage to material because they are far smaller than the atoms themselves. I am not calling God a liar either thankyou very much. You are all just mislead.

[Dr.Isaiah]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Alright, you raise a good point, visible light can pass only though transparent material like glass and clear water. Higher energy electromagnetic radiation however such as UV, X-rays and gamma rays which are all made of these same photons can. The photons do not do any damage to material because they are far smaller than the atoms themselves. I am not calling God a liar either thankyou very much. You are all just mislead.

Blah blah blah. All this word-salad is making me hungry for biblical knowledge. It's like the Harry Potter books, hidden subliminal messages within bizarre words and unreadable passages. The Devil is a slippery snake and this Mitcho speaks with a forked tongue.

[Benedict A. Davis]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Alright, you raise a good point, visible light can pass only though transparent material like glass and clear water. Higher energy electromagnetic radiation however such as UV, X-rays and gamma rays which are all made of these same photons can. The photons do not do any damage to material because they are far smaller than the atoms themselves. I am not calling God a liar either thankyou very much. You are all just mislead.

Everyone but you is wrong and you will show us the right way. Isn't that what scientific types call a Christ complex?

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Mitco, I have just one question for you, when will the lies stop? It is pointless for me to refute every one of them.
I am over fifty years old and at the rate you are going, I'll be dead and at the side of God before I am done, so please, stop the madness!

[jono_100]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

If the sun was really 500 miles from Earth then we would all burn, we can only live because the sun is so far away and only a tiny portion of its intensity is received by Earth.

Also your pastor said that the sun is made from coal...but how can coal burn without oxygen. It is impossible. The sun's light is cause by helium and hydrogen atoms fusing and emitting massive amounts of radiation. The elements will eventually run out and the sun will 'die'.

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

If the sun was really 500 miles from Earth then we would all burn, we can only live because the sun is so far away and only a tiny portion of its intensity is received by Earth.

Another absurd comment.
Your logic is like saying if a candle is burning and I am in the same room, I'd be incinerated. The sun is sized proportionate to the amount of light and heat God wants us to have.
Just like you install a house sized furnace in a house, an apartment sized in an apartment building, God sized the Sun for the Earth.

Also your pastor said that the sun is made from coal...but how can coal burn without oxygen. It is impossible. The sun's light is cause by helium and hydrogen atoms fusing and emitting massive amounts of radiation. The elements will eventually run out and the sun will 'die'.

As everyone knows, God feeds the Sun the coal it needs, He also provide it with air. He is God after all, isn't He?


You really need to think things through before you go online, and make ridiculous claims that will be around forever. Imagine what your grandkids are going to think when they find your idiotic comments. They will be so ashamed.

[jono_100]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Another absurd comment.
Your logic is like saying if a candle is burning and I am in the same room, I'd be incinerated. The sun is sized proportionate to the amount of light and heat God wants us to have.
Just like you install a house sized furnace in a house, an apartment sized in an apartment building, God sized the Sun for the Earth.


As everyone knows, God feeds the Sun the coal it needs, He also provide it with air. He is God after all, isn't He?


You really need to think things through before you go online, and make ridiculous claims that will be around forever. Imagine what your grandkids are going to think when they find your idiotic comments. They will be so ashamed.

A candle is a chemical reaction in which electrons are taken from one element to another and a modicum of energy (sound, light, heat etc) if emitted.

The sun is a nuclear reaction in which protons and neutrons on atoms are fused with other atoms releasing immense amounts of energy

The size of the medium does not solely dictate how much energy is released.


Why do you believe that the sun requires coal to exist? Where does the air for the sun come from? it can't just come into exists from no where.

BTW my claims are not ridiculous, they are based on fact and real science.

What makes you think i want children? don't assume things about people!
but if i did theres are good chance that by the time they grow up that religion will be sent to where it belongs, back in the dark ages.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

The sun is a nuclear reaction in which protons and neutrons on atoms are fused with other atoms releasing immense amounts of energy

Nonsense! Where does it say any of that in the Bible?!

[jono_100]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Nonsense! Where does it say any of that in the Bible?!

umm...it doesn't. Fusion wasn't discovered when the bible was made.

[Meek and Humble]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

umm...it doesn't. Fusion wasn't discovered when the bible was made.

God wrote the Bible, and He knows everything. If fusion was real, God would have written about it. Look at all of this other scientific facts that the Bible predicted:

- Creation is made of particles, indiscernible to our eyes (Hebrews 11:3). Not until the 19th century was it discovered that all visible matter consists of invisible elements.

-When dealing with disease, clothes and body should be washed under running water (Leviticus 15:13). For centuries people naively washed in standing water. Today we recognize the need to wash away germs with fresh water.

-There are mountains on the bottom of the ocean floor (Jonah 2:5-6). Only in the last century have we discovered that there are towering mountains and deep trenches in the depths of the sea.

-The Bible states that God created life according to kinds (Genesis 1:24). The fact that God distinguishes kinds, agrees with what scientists observe – namely that there are horizontal genetic boundaries beyond which life cannot vary. Life produces after its own kind. Dogs produce dogs, cats produce cats, roses produce roses. Never have we witnessed one kind changing into another kind as evolution supposes. There are truly natural limits to biological change.

-Our bodies are made from the dust of the ground (Genesis 2:7; 3:19). Scientists have discovered that the human body is comprised of some 28 base and trace elements – all of which are found in the earth.

-The universe had a beginning (Genesis 1:1; Hebrews 1:10-12). Starting with the studies of Albert Einstein in the early 1900s and continuing today, science has confirmed the biblical view that the universe had a beginning. When the Bible was written most people believed the universe was eternal. Science has proven them wrong, but the Bible correct.

-Light can be divided (Job 38:24). Sir Isaac Newton studied light and discovered that white light is made of seven colors, which can be “parted” and then recombined. Science confirmed this four centuries ago – God declared this four millennia ago!

-The number of stars, though vast, are finite (Isaiah 40:26). Although man is unable to calculate the exact number of stars, we now know their number is finite. Of course God knew this all along – “He counts the number of the stars; He calls them all by name” (Psalm 147:4). What an awesome God!

-The continents were created as one large land mass (Genesis 1:9-10). Many geologists agree there is strong evidence that the earth was originally one super continent – just as the Bible said way back in Genesis.

-DNA anticipated (Psalm 139:13-16). During the 1950s, Watson and Crick discovered the genetic blueprint for life. Three thousand years ago the Bible seems to reference this written digital code in Psalm 139 – “Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect [unformed]; and in Thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.”

-Healthy dietary laws (Leviticus 11:9-12). Scripture states that we should avoid those sea creatures which do not have fins or scales. We now know that bottom-feeders (those with no scales or fins) tend to consume waste and are likely to carry disease.

-The Second Law of Thermodynamics (Entropy) explained (Psalm 102:25-26). This law states that everything in the universe is running down, deteriorating, constantly becoming less and less orderly. Entropy (disorder) entered when mankind rebelled against God – resulting in the curse (Genesis 3:17; Romans 8:20-22). Historically most people believed the universe was unchangeable. Yet modern science verifies that the universe is “grow(ing) old like a garment” (Hebrews 1:11). Evolution directly contradicts this law.

-Circumcision on the eighth day is ideal (Genesis 17:12; Leviticus 12:3; Luke 1:59). Medical science has discovered that the blood clotting chemical prothrombin peaks in a newborn on the eighth day. This is therefore the safest day to circumcise a baby. How did Moses know?!

-Light travels in a path (Job 38:19). Light is said to have a “way” [Hebrew: derek, literally a traveled path or road]. Until the 17th century it was believed that light was transmitted instantaneously. We now know that light is a form of energy that travels at ~186,000 miles per second in a straight line. Indeed, there is a “way” of light.

-Laughter promotes physical healing (Proverbs 17:22). Recent studies confirm what King Solomon was inspired to write 3,000 years ago, “A merry heart does good, like medicine.” For instance, laughter reduces levels of certain stress hormones. This brings balance to the immune system, which helps your body fight off disease.

-The Bible describes dinosaurs (Job 40:15-24). In 1842, Sir Richard Owen coined the word dinosaur, meaning “terrible lizard,” after discovering large reptilian-like fossils. However in the Book of Job, written 4,000 years earlier, God describes the behemoth as: the largest of all land creatures, plant eating (herbivore), with great strength in its hips and legs, powerful stomach muscles, a tail like a cedar tree, and bones like bars of iron. This is an accurate description of sauropods – the largest known dinosaur family.

-The seed of a plant contains its life (Genesis 1:11; 29). As stated in the Book of Genesis, we now recognize that inside the humble seed is life itself. Within the seed is a tiny factory of amazing complexity. No scientist can build a synthetic seed and no seed is simple!

-Man is “fearfully and wonderfully made” (Psalm 139:14). We are only beginning to probe the complexity of the DNA molecule, the eye, the brain, and all the intricate components of life. No human invention compares to the marvelous wonders of God’s creation.

-Soil conservation (Leviticus 23:22). Not only was the land to lay fallow every seventh year, but God also instructed farmers to leave the gleanings when reaping their fields, and not to reap the corners (sides) of their fields. This served several purposes: 1) Vital soil minerals would be maintained. 2) The hedge row would limit wind erosion. 3) The poor could eat the gleanings. Today, approximately four billion metric tons of soil are lost from U.S. crop lands each year. Much of this soil depletion could be avoided if God’s commands were followed.

-The real you is spirit (Numbers 16:22; Zechariah 12:1). Personality is non-physical. For example, after a heart transplant the recipient does not receive the donor’s character. An amputee is not half the person he was before loosing his limbs. Our eternal nature is spirit, heart, soul, mind. The Bible tells us that “man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart” (1 Samuel 16:7).

[Whitski]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Snip

Where abouts in the bible is the human genome mapped, again?

I forgot.