[Lisa H]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Because Earth isn't the only body of mass with gravity, the sun has it's own gravity as does Jupiter and Mars. The moon has it's own gravity that has an effect on the tides of Earth. Gravity from several different things act on each other to hold them up.

Once again you have a problem with you gravity.

If two planets have gravity, then they would attract each other by their gravitational pull. They would stick to each other.

[A Follower]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

No gravity in space. What's holding the Earth up? Nothing.

For something to fall their needs to be gravity.
What gives you the idea I hate the Lord? Also if nuclear fusion created a large enough explosion to cause the sun to move around, (hint: it doesn't) how would gravity help with that?

Because Earth isn't the only body of mass with gravity, the sun has it's own gravity as does Jupiter and Mars. The moon has it's own gravity that has an effect on the tides of Earth. Gravity from several different things act on each other to hold them up.

Well heathens, what is it? Does the sun have gravity meaning it would float away or does it not have gravity meaning it would not stay together?

Maybe you dumbasses should get your story straight before you try to convince others of your stupid theories. Or better yet, go read the KJV1611 and you won't have to lie about everything anymore.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Oh that's weird cause this is saying that the Sun is 491.1 miles away.
The distance between Los Angeles and Flagstaff, AZ is approx 467 miles. If there was a giant coal fire in Flagstaff, we would be able to see it and know what was happening. And if we didn't see it we would sure smell it. So how come we can't smell the coal fires on the sun?

Friend, the answer to your question can be found in the Holy Bible, amen.

On the very first page of the Bible, we learn that the Sky is a solid structure called a firmament, which God named Heaven.

Now I completely understand your confusion here, because if we have been trapped underneath a solid dome for the past 6014 years with a 12 mile diameter coal fire, we shouldn't even be able to see for all the smoke, let alone breathe

However, God in his infinite wisdom thought of that, and we learn in Genesis 7:11 that He put windows in the firmament, so that the smoke can escape. Praise God!

Now, no one here claims to know for sure that the sun is made of coal. The Bible doesn't say what the sun is made of, and coal is just the leading theological theory. We do not, however, believe that it is hydrogen atoms fusing into helium, because we measured the size and mass of the sun and we don't believe it has anywhere near enough mass to sustain a long-running fusion reaction.

But now that I think about it, if angels could keep a theoretical coal-burning sun stoked with coal, then I suppose they could also keep a theoretical hydrogen-fusing sun stoked with hydrogen atoms. So who knows? This isn't a salvation issue, so it's something that Christians of good conscience can disagree on.

No gravity in space. What's holding the Earth up? Nothing.

Friend, not only do you not know the True Religion (Baptist), but you don't even know your own. Those liars at NASA want you to believe that there is gravity in space, and gravity is what keeps the Earth in orbit around the sun. They say the centrifugal force of the Earth's forward momentum is perfectly balanced with the pull of the sun's gravity, so it neither flies away nor falls into the sun, and it all happened by random chance I know it's crazy but they really believe it!

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Rational_Atheist]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Great theory, problem is the sun does not send out yellow light, it's sending out white light. The color we see the sun in depends on how we observe it.

And you can calculate the distance based on the temperature of the avarage temperature and that of the troposphere. There's too many things messing with the temperature on earth to determine the distance. For example heat generated by the sun rises up from the earth, and green house gasses that cause global warming make it even more impossible.

[Lisa H]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Great theory, problem is the sun does not send out yellow light, it's sending out white light. The color we see the sun in depends on how we observe it.

And you can calculate the distance based on the temperature of the avarage temperature and that of the troposphere. There's too many things messing with the temperature on earth to determine the distance. For example heat generated by the sun rises up from the earth, and green house gasses that cause global warming make it even more impossible.

The sun is yellow, so it sends out yellow light. If the sun was white it would send out white light.

Also, heat generated from the sun does not rise up the earth, it comes from sun.

[Rational_Atheist]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

The sun is yellow, so it sends out yellow light. If the sun was white it would send out white light.

Also, heat generated from the sun does not rise up the earth, it comes from sun.

Ok fine if you want to believe the sun is yellow, then do so. You try looking into the sun on a sunny afternoon and tell me if you see a yellow sun or your eyes hurt cause the light is too bright. If the sun did not send white light we would only be able to see yellow on earth, anything else would just be black.

As for the heat, have you ever put something in front of a fire? Was that something warm when you picked it back up? The sun works in the same way, the light from the sun warms up the earth. That heat is rising back up from the earth as it warms up the air, and the warm air rises. basic physics it is why they put a heating system on the floor and a cooling vent near the roof.

[Lisa H]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Ok fine if you want to believe the sun is yellow, then do so. You try looking into the sun on a sunny afternoon and tell me if you see a yellow sun or your eyes hurt cause the light is too bright. If the sun did not send white light we would only be able to see yellow on earth, anything else would just be black.

The sun is yellow. Just like you said, go outside and have look. Even little children paint the sun yellow in there pictures.

As for the heat, have you ever put something in front of a fire? Was that something warm when you picked it back up? The sun works in the same way, the light from the sun warms up the earth. That heat is rising back up from the earth as it warms up the air, and the warm air rises. basic physics it is why they put a heating system on the floor and a cooling vent near the roof.

Are you trying to change what you said. You said the sun's heat comes from the earth. The sun's heat comes from sun. What you are talking about here is secondary radiant heat. When something gets warmed up from one source and then heats another item.

[Rational_Atheist]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

The sun is yellow. Just like you said, go outside and have look. Even little children paint the sun yellow in there pictures.

Sigh, again if the sun would only emit light that was yellow, we would either see yellow or black. We need white light in order to see colors. Do your background study before you start arguing about something. Basing your proof on childrens drawings is not very accurate (raindrops arent blue either, but in alot of childrens drawings they are)

Are you trying to change what you said. You said the sun's heat comes from the earth. The sun's heat comes from sun. What you are talking about here is secondary radiant heat. When something gets warmed up from one source and then heats another item.

[Rational_Atheist]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

The sun is yellow. Just like you said, go outside and have look. Even little children paint the sun yellow in there pictures.

Sigh, again if the sun would only emit light that was yellow, we would either see yellow or black. We need white light in order to see colors. Do your background study before you start arguing about something. Basing your proof on childrens drawings is not very accurate (raindrops arent blue either, but in alot of childrens drawings they are)

Are you trying to change what you said. You said the sun's heat comes from the earth. The sun's heat comes from sun. What you are talking about here is secondary radiant heat. When something gets warmed up from one source and then heats another item.

Yes, I was hoping you'd be able to make that out, sorry if my explanations arent clear enough, english is not my native language.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

We need white light in order to see colors.

So in order to see a red light, we need a white light? Do you see how silly your reasoning is?

Do your background study before you start arguing about something.

I could not agree more. Unfortunately you are ignoring your own advice.

[Rational_Atheist]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

So in order to see a red light, we need a white light? Do you see how silly your reasoning is?

That is correct, remember "Dark Side of The Moon" by Pink Floyd? On the cover there's an image of a white ray of light aimed at a trangle from glass, the light comes back out in different colors. White light is all colors. So when white light reaches an object, the object will absorb all colors exept for one which it will reflect. That color is the one we get to see. So actually grass isn't green, it's all colors exept for green.

I did my research old man, it seems you didn't.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

That is correct, remember "Dark Side of The Moon" by Pink Floyd? On the cover there's an image of a white ray of light aimed at a trangle from glass, the light comes back out in different colors. White light is all colors. So when white light reaches an object, the object will absorb all colors exept for one which it will reflect. That color is the one we get to see. So actually grass isn't green, it's all colors exept for green.

So you are seriously claiming that in order to see a red light (e.g. a led or a stoplight) you also need a white light!?

You could not be more wrong. Just find a red light, make sure it is the only light (e.g. go into a very dark room) and look at it. To your amazement (apparently) you will be able to see the red light. Even if no white light is present.

I did my research old man, it seems you didn't.

You are lying. If you did your research you would not make these idiotic claims.

[Rational_Atheist]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

So you are seriously claiming that in order to see a red light (e.g. a led or a stoplight) you also need a white light!?

You could not be more wrong. Just find a red light, make sure it is the only light (e.g. go into a very dark room) and look at it. To your amazement (apparently) you will be able to see the red light. Even if no white light is present.

You are lying. If you did your research you would not make these idiotic claims.

hahaha nice try for a comeback.
if you would turn on a red light, the lightbulb itself emits white light. In that case you wouldnt need a sun. But it's good, constructive criticism!

But to clarify, white light contains all colors, so white light makes us able to see al the colors it contains (every color). If for example you had light which missed some kind of color, you'd be able to see every other color except that one. In order to see the color of an object like say grass, there would have to be green light to see it. But when you shine a blue light on grass, you could still see the grass, only it wont be green but it'll have a slight blue tint, every color is reflected just not equally much.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

if you would turn on a red light, the lightbulb itself emits white light.

Again you are talking total nonsense. I assure you a common 632.8 nm wavelength red laser contains nothing that emits white light.

[Rational_Atheist]

Re: The Sun: Millions of miles away?

Again you are talking total nonsense. I assure you a common 632.8 nm wavelength red laser contains nothing that emits white light.

I didn't say anything about a laser, I was referring to a standard issue lightbuld, with a red coating. But yeah, then you can see the red light. And again every object reflects all colors just not equally much. So if you'd be standing in the dark room with only the red "laser" turned on. You'd see nothing but red. You wouldn't be able to recognize for example the colors of your clothing unless they're red. You can do the test in a room they use to develop photos. You can only see red or black.