[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

I understand why you are saying what you are saying but I am only saying that the argument you presented proves nothing. I am sorry if you feel that it does, I just happen to disagree.

You can use your free will to disagree with the word of God as he has written it in the Holy Bible. However if you do so eternal damnation will be yours.

And I think your name is wrong, you don't seem to be all that cranky, you actually seem rather nice since you did not just start yelling at me and calling me an idiot and infested with demons when I first posted which is half what I expected

We will get to that part later.

[ThrustingBoy]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

You can use your free will to disagree with the word of God as he has written it in the Holy Bible. However if you do so eternal damnation will be yours.

Lol, you are changing the subject my friend, and my reply to that is for another discussion, but since you have nothing left to say about the original discussion I will accept our discussion as being over.

We will get to that part later.

I hope not, I very much dislike childish banter and name calling. That is often where the discussions often go after no reasonable conclusion can be met. But if that is what you would like to do then go ahead, you will not get a reply out of me though.

[GOD=life]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

but since you have nothing left to say about the original discussion I will accept our discussion as being over.

Well, you didn't come to this forum to have a discussion, but to try to force your opinions on others.

If you come to a Christian forum with a closed mind and a fixed set of opinions, you will leave with the same closed mind and the same fixed set of opinions.

The only difference is that you will have reminded us once again why we have to keep doing what we do and why we have to keep voting Republican so that we will see a Bible-based Constitution. There is no middle ground when people like you can't even respect our right to talk freely in our own forum.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

I will accept our discussion as being over.

Agreed.

I hope not, I very much dislike childish banter and name calling. That is often where the discussions often go after no reasonable conclusion can be met. But if that is what you would like to do then go ahead, you will not get a reply out of me though.

I dislike it as well. But as soon as someone starts it I have no problems at all to do the same. 90% of the atheist here start screaming at us at some point, many from there very first posting, so we have extensive experience with that. You seem to be able to have an adult conversation though. I will miss you.

[ThrustingBoy]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

If you come to a Christian forum with a closed mind and a fixed set of opinions, you will leave with the same closed mind and the same fixed set of opinions.
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This is the second time I have been accused of being close minded, but I disagree. But if you would read my posts then you would see that I was at no point trying to disprove the Bible in anyway or somehow prove that God does not exist I was merely trying to help you understand that since the cucumber is not mentioned in the Bible as some sort of heathen trap, how can you say for certain that is what it was meant for. Once again, I can see where you can get the idea that it MIGHT be, but as I have seen people say many times on these forums, "Where is the scripture to back it up". Who is the closed minded one?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

This is the second time I have been accused of being close minded, but I disagree. But if you would read my posts then you would see that I was at no point trying to disprove the Bible in anyway or somehow prove that God does not exist I was merely trying to help you understand that since the cucumber is not mentioned in the Bible as some sort of heathen trap, how can you say for certain that is what it was meant for. Once again, I can see where you can get the idea that it MIGHT be, but as I have seen people say many times on these forums, "Where is the scripture to back it up". Who is the closed minded one?

Friend,

The Biblical proof of existence of God is the World. The World has to come from somewhere right? Logically it follows God created cucumbers along with flowers, puppy dogs, parasitic wasps and the bubonic plague. No were in the Bible does it so, no should it say "And I the Lord give you the cucumber, don't stick in your butt". However atheists demand specific proof of a item that can not be created by a naturalistic force like evolution. The cucumber is one example.

This is thread is in rebuttal to a common atheist question "prove God exists". This is not arguing from a Biblical view point. Please keep up with the dicuussion .

[WWJDnow]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

But since the Bible explains everything for you I would like to know where it says that cucumbers are a trap for people who wish to use them in such a way.

And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city. Isaiah 1:8

The meaning is very clear, here. The Jews were f***ed, and that was like living in a garden of cucumbers. Everything is revealed in the Bible, if you just know where to look.

[ThrustingBoy]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

Friend,

The Biblical proof of existence of God is the World. The World has to come from somewhere right? Logically it follows God created cucumbers along with flowers, puppy dogs, parasitic wasps and the bubonic plague. No were in the Bible does it so, no should it say "And I the Lord give you the cucumber, don't stick in your butt". However atheists demand specific proof of a item that can not be created by a naturalistic force like evolution. The cucumber is one example.

So you then admit that you cannot say with absolute certainty that you know that cucumbers on on the earth as a trap for Atheists, but instead can only make an educated guess?

This is thread is in rebuttal to a common atheist question "prove God exists". This is not arguing from a Biblical view point. Please keep up with the dicuussion .

I don't see how I am not keeping up with he conversation, you said that it is proven that it is a trap for heathens and I am pointing out that logically you cannot possibly know that for certain based on your own beliefs. Please keep up with the logic

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

I am pointing out that logically you cannot possibly know that for certain based on your own beliefs

Which should just how much you don't understand us. We do not believe God exists. We know God exists and that his Holy Bible contains the absolute truth. Every letter of it.

[ThrustingBoy]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

Which should just how much you don't understand us. We do not believe God exists. We know God exists and that his Holy Bible contains the absolute truth. Every letter of it.

I am sorry if I offend you with using the word belief instead of knowing I will be more careful of it in the future but if you replace the word belief with either knowing or understanding in my sentence the point remains the same.

I have also received my second 100 point infraction for debating on Gods Favorite forum, one from here, and one from the "Are You an Atheist?"thread. Have you other people received this as well since it takes at least 2 to debate or is this just your peoples way to "nicely" push people out that say things that you don't like? Pastor Ezekiel is the one that gave me both of these but I have been speaking with Bobby Joe mostly. He also gave me the 15 point Reason: Going yappity yap yap yappity, but again I wonder if anybody else has received it.

I can understand your defense on the debate thing since you can simply say that you all are trying to answer my questions but they often raise more questions in my mind. Isn't it through my own questions that you are answering that I and others who read these threads get a better understanding on your position on these tough questions?

[Wide-Open]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

Going yappity yap yap yappity, but again I wonder if anybody else has received it.

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Nope, nothing there. What does that say about you, or about me friend?

Isn't it through my own questions that you are answering that I and others who read these threads get a better understanding on your position on these tough questions?

Not really, as you are not quoting Scripture, and thus not "debating" us about the subject we really care about.

It's about the Bible friend. We have seen thousands of atheists on this site. Frankly, we don't care about the whole "I don't care about God coz' he doesn't exist" mantra.

If you want a "debate", tell us where God is wrong. Not where you think we are wrong.

Please take a minute or two to let this trickle down into your skull. Thanks.

Scripture is our cornerstone. Without it, we would be lost, we would just be silly.

Matthew 21:42
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

So you then admit that you cannot say with absolute certainty that you know that cucumbers on on the earth as a trap for Atheists, but instead can only make an educated guess?

Friend,
Are you dim? Is that what's your' problem?

I don't see how I am not keeping up with he conversation, you said that it is proven that it is a trap for heathens and I am pointing out that logically you cannot possibly know that for certain based on your own beliefs. Please keep up with the logic

Yet again your' little tea cup of a brain has overflown and spilled the main point along with your man seed.

Bobb-Joe please explain it for the mentally retarded readers here.

Bobby-Joe"However atheists demand specific proof of a item that can not be created by a naturalistic force like evolution. The cucumber is one example."

Is that clear enough for you even your glue huffing mind?

[GOD=life]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

I can understand your defense on the debate thing since you can simply say that you all are trying to answer my questions but they often raise more questions in my mind. Isn't it through my own questions that you are answering that I and others who read these threads get a better understanding on your position on these tough questions?

I can try to answer some of these points:

• This is not a debate forum but a worship forum -- see the "noob" thread
• Every day atheists come in here thinking they found THE proof against God, only to be told that their "proof" has been debunked 10 years ago already
• Atheists like to pose as Christians and act wacky; they are easy to spot and are usually banned quickly
• You cannot demand your questions to be answered. There are half a million posts on this forum, try the search function to see if your question hasn't been answered 10 times already -- it's tiresome to explain the same point over and over again
• Our position is based 100% on the KJV 1611 Bible; you can find all details about our positions by reading the Bible yourself
• There are no tough questions, but a LOT of tough answers; this is why many Christians will tell you to e.g. abandon the Old Testament or that we should use a highlighter to filter God's Word into something convenient

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

I am sorry if I offend you with using the word belief instead of knowing I will be more careful of it in the future but if you replace the word belief with either knowing or understanding in my sentence the point remains the same.

I lost you here. What exactly is the point you are trying to make?

He also gave me the 15 point Reason: Going yappity yap yap yappity, but again I wonder if anybody else has received it.

That is very unusual, it must be something you did.

[ThrustingBoy]

Re: Cucumber, the proof of God’s existence Atheists

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Nope, nothing there. What does that say about you, or about me friend?

It tells me that the people that run the forums do not agree with me and therefore wish to give me infractions where the others that argue against me are safe because they are on the same team.

Not really, as you are not quoting Scripture, and thus not "debating" us about the subject we really care about.

I asked you to quote scripture that obviously does not exist. I am NOT trying to DISPROVE the existence of God as some of you seem to think. The point of this thread has always been, from my FIRST POST on the top of PAGE 10 that you CANNOT say for certain that you are POSITIVE that cucumbers are a trap for Atheists or homos. But you all have avoided the question, insulted me, called me closed minded and have told me a few times how a cucumber proves the existence of god. But that was NEVER the point of the post and you all are the reason it has been drug out so far. Why is it so difficult for you to simply admit that you do not KNOW that this is the reason Cucumbers are here because it is NOT in the SCRIPTURE that you live your lives by?
And the same thing has been happening to me on the Are You an Atheist? thread to prove that Atheist in fact DO NOT WORSHIP the Devil, or MONKEYS. I am not even trying say that cucumbers are NOT there for that reason, I am saying that YOU nor I neither know, because it is NOT in the SCRIPTURE.
And now that I am proved right you all hate me for it? Sorry guys, you are not Gods and are wrong sometimes, just like I am wrong sometimes too, the only difference is that I can deal with it and don't try to change the subject or mock the person I am talking to.