[Joo (Quarantined)]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

How else does one theorize if not working on personal theories? And I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that the gonads aren't the best design ever.
And it wasn't only my opinion, I was also going by facts.
Fact-If a male gets kicked in the balls-extreme pain. Not even kicked, for some guys, even a somewhat gentle prod will do it.
Are you saying that's not inconvenient? Maybe not if you're into pain.

Btw I apologize if I seemed harsh or anything that was not my opinion, I was just explaining how I interpreted his statements.

Anyways, certainly thats an incovenience, yet I am willing to trade that off for the sensory abilities in that area. I'm not getting hit there all the time, heck in my entire life I've been hit there a total of two times. And I take martial arts I might add, meaning I'm more likely to get hit there (and anywhere else for that matter) than people who don't.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

Billions of men go about their daily lives and die of old age with intact gonads. Billions of men live out their day to day lives without having a blunt force applied to their gonads.

Yes, but that's because billions of men have the good luck to live out their entire lives without coming into contact with Rachael Van Nutmunching.

[Goatski]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

How else does one theorize if not working on personal theories? And I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that the gonads aren't the best design ever.
And it wasn't only my opinion, I was also going by facts.
Fact-If a male gets kicked in the balls-extreme pain. Not even kicked, for some guys, even a somewhat gentle prod will do it.
Are you saying that's not inconvenient? Maybe not if you're into pain.

You seem to be under the impression that men are constantly being punched in the gonads or bumping their gonads into something every other second. 22 years and I've never been punched in the nuts or bumped into anything hard enough to cause "extreme pain". Billions of men go about their daily lives and die of old age with intact gonads. Billions of men live out their day to day lives without having a blunt force applied to their gonads. Not that you would have any frame of reference to know if such "extreme pain" is even all that "extreme". Hint: It's not.

If you would go back to my original post and give me step by step counter arguments I could further explain the nature of objective reality to you. As it stands you will not do that because you know I am 100% right and that you are 100% wrong. I'm figuring you don't dare try attack my objective, impersonal, and higher logic because I've shown you the light (You're wlecome), but your egos don't wish to fully immerse themselves in frailty of their miserably weak arguments.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

How else does one theorize if not working on personal theories? And I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that the gonads aren't the best design ever.
And it wasn't only my opinion, I was also going by facts.
Fact-If a male gets kicked in the balls-extreme pain. Not even kicked, for some guys, even a somewhat gentle prod will do it.
Are you saying that's not inconvenient? Maybe not if you're into pain.

[Joo (Quarantined)]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

So....uh...what exactly is your point? Logic would have it that you have a point stashed in there somewhere, but what is it, exactly?

His point is your logic is faulty because it is based on your opinion. You personally find it illogical for the male anatomy to be easily harmed, therefore based on your opinion, you claim that it isn't intelligently designed.

His example with the pen is basically a long winded analogy, saying that since its not the way you'd do it, then its not intelligent. But that's arrogant, and assumes that you know the only intelligent way, perhaps it is that way for a reason you didn't think of.

That was his point.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

I proved that they were intelligently designed. I notice you don't dare attempt to challenge my objective facts. That shows me that you can find no flaw and agree with me 100%.

Well, someone's a little uppity, aren't they? You didn't prove it at all, you merely stated your reasonings behind your theories. That isn't the same as proving something beyond reasonable doubt. No jury would convict/acquit based on such 'evidence'.

I never mentioned any flaws. Again, your entire premise was that if creation did not meet your personal ideal specifications, then it must be formed by non-intelligence. That was an idiotic, pig-headed, and extremely egotistical standpoint that you used to have before I set you straight.

The only reason I presented it thus was because it seems commonsense. Looking at how inconvenient the testicles are, I merely pondered whether an intelligent designer might consider more conveniently streamlined gonads.

"If cars were designed by an intelligent mind then they wouldn't run on air polluting gasoline so I guess that means all gas powered cars were created by blind non-intelligent forces because I personally would have designed it differently." - Ignorant statement you would have made before I showed you the light.

Cars these days are more designed by greedy people who don't care about the environment. They could very easily come up with something much more environmentally friendly. They simply don't care.

Neither are humans. In fact some say humanity is overpopulated. Check and mate. Oh, and birds don't have a body temperature of 98 degrees nor human semen. old

I accept your apology... again.

*Sigh* You've twisted my words, dangnabbit!

No, you can't. You can make a fool of yourself, but you can't disagree.

I thought I just did.

[Goatski]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

Nope, it was more based on the fact that the testicles are darn awkward and don't seem intelligently designed.

I proved that they were intelligently designed. I notice you don't dare attempt to challenge my objective facts. That shows me that you can find no flaw and agree with me 100%.

An intelligent designer could, surely, look beyond the flaws you mentioned ie temperature etc, found a way to compensate?

I never mentioned any flaws. Again, your entire premise was that if creation did not meet your personal ideal specifications, then it must be formed by non-intelligence. That was an idiotic, pig-headed, and extremely egotistical standpoint that you used to have before I set you straight.

"If cars were designed by an intelligent mind then they wouldn't run on air polluting gasoline so I guess that means all gas powered cars were created by blind non-intelligent forces because I personally would have designed it differently." - Ignorant statement you would have made before I showed you the light.

You're welcome.

The birds seem to have managed it, they aren't extinct from lack of sperm yet.

Neither are humans. In fact some say humanity is overpopulated. Check and mate. Oh, and birds don't have a body temperature of 98 degrees nor human semen.

I accept your apology... again.

Uhh... I'm pretty sure I can still disagree.

No, you can't. You can make a fool of yourself, but you can't disagree.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

That you were 100% wrong about there being no intelligent force behind the physical form and function of the human male testicle. That your entire argument was based in ignorance and your ego's need to deny your Innermost.

Nope, it was more based on the fact that the testicles are darn awkward and don't seem intelligently designed. An intelligent designer could, surely, look beyond the flaws you mentioned ie temperature etc, found a way to compensate? The birds seem to have managed it, they aren't extinct from lack of sperm yet.

Clearly, there is an intelligence permeating all matter and now you can no longer disagree. Welcome to the objective knowledge club.

You're welcome.

Uhh... I'm pretty sure I can still disagree.

[Goatski]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

Yes, I understood what you were saying, but I still don't know what overall point you were trying to make?

That you were 100% wrong about there being no intelligent force behind the physical form and function of the human male testicle. That your entire argument was based in ignorance and your ego's need to deny your Innermost.

Clearly, there is an intelligence permeating all matter and now you can no longer disagree. Welcome to the objective knowledge club.

You're welcome.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

I take it you are on the side of the atheist pagan, Rachael?

I'm not an atheist, clearly. 'Atheist Pagan' is an oxymoron.
I'm only atheistic towards the abrahamic religions, and I'm an evolutionist. But I'm still pagan.

You really do need to realize your Hannibal Lector type infatuation with her. I know you are progressives and all, but taking up for satan over god is just inexcusable.

Really, ******n, weird Zeke may be, but I really don't see him as a potential Hannibal Lecter.

You know exactly what I said and you understood it clearly. You've been put in your place and have been left speechless in the wake of my objective logic.

I accept your apology.

Yes, I understood what you were saying, but I still don't know what overall point you were trying to make. Or did you just feel like arguing?

[Goatski]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

Sweet Jesus this goatboy is a loon. Is anyone following a word of this crack-induced diatribe?

I take it you are on the side of the atheist pagan, Rachael?

You really do need to realize your Hannibal Lector type infatuation with her. I know you are progressives and all, but taking up for satan over god is just inexcusable.

So....uh...what exactly is your point? Logic would have it that you have a point stashed in there somewhere, but what is it, exactly?

You know exactly what I said and you understood it clearly. You've been put in your place and have been left speechless in the wake of my objective logic.

I accept your apology.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

I guess birds ARE intelligently designed but humans aren't?

"There is no intelligent design because I would have made things differently if I had the power"

That is the entire synthesis of your argument, Rachael. It is a pig-headed and wholly subjective proposition rooted in your subconscious desire to disprove that which you revile, but sadly, can never disprove.

"Well, if my pen was intelligently designed it would be much shorter and fit on my index finger, sort of like a thimble, and it would almost seem as if the ink was coming out of my finger tip. But, alas, it isn't how I would do it so I guess no intelligence had any hand in its manufacturing." - The Logic of Rachael

Without adding any type of deity to the equation I feel we can at least agree that there is hardware and software, matter and laws. When hydrogen and oxygen are placed in the proximity water is the result; a product of said hardware and software. And there are many other lines to this code to this program. Now given the whole of this program(thermodynamics, gravity, all that stuff) how would you make it where we can get different results to the male scrotum of present human anatomy from the same program? Think hard on this one. Don't rush it.

And let us not forget that an unintelligent, unaware and unconscious system has no sense of itself. Therefore, unconscious things do not compensate for factors that they inherently cannot fathom. Sooooo, the idea that the testicular muscles contract and retract to maintain the proper temperature for optimal sperm germination would be a false statement because unaware and unintelligent hardware cannot comprehend itself and take action toward such a goal. However, this temperature control mechanism within the function of the testicles has been scientifically proven to be true, no? Something to consider.

So....uh...what exactly is your point? Logic would have it that you have a point stashed in there somewhere, but what is it, exactly?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

Sweet Jesus this goatboy is a loon. Is anyone following a word of this crack-induced diatribe?

[Goatski]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

Ok, I'm sure I'll get a good telling-off for posting the word 'testicle', but here it is. How would intelligent design answer the question of testicles? For you see, male avians (birds) have their sexual organs tucked neatly inside, and they only come out when it is time for the bird to mate.
Why is this not the case for human males as well?

For as the men here probably know, even a slight prod to that area is enough to induce pain, and kicking a man hard enough there can induce unbelievable pain and/or medical problems.

So, if you believe in intelligent design, how do you explain the fact such a sensitive organ, vital for reproduction and survival of the race, has been placed in such a vulnerable position, as well as being extremely sensitive? You'd think it'd be at least tough.

So then, flat-earthers, explain that one.

I guess birds ARE intelligently designed but humans aren't?

"There is no intelligent design because I would have made things differently if I had the power"

That is the entire synthesis of your argument, Rachael. It is a pig-headed and wholly subjective proposition rooted in your subconscious desire to disprove that which you revile, but sadly, can never disprove.

"Well, if my pen was intelligently designed it would be much shorter and fit on my index finger, sort of like a thimble, and it would almost seem as if the ink was coming out of my finger tip. But, alas, it isn't how I would do it so I guess no intelligence had any hand in its manufacturing." - The Logic of Rachael

Without adding any type of deity to the equation I feel we can at least agree that there is hardware and software, matter and laws. When hydrogen and oxygen are placed in the proximity water is the result; a product of said hardware and software. And there are many other lines to this code to this program. Now given the whole of this program(thermodynamics, gravity, all that stuff) how would you make it where we can get different results to the male scrotum of present human anatomy from the same program? Think hard on this one. Don't rush it.

And let us not forget that an unintelligent, unaware and unconscious system has no sense of itself. Therefore, unconscious things do not compensate for factors that they inherently cannot fathom. Sooooo, the idea that the testicular muscles contract and retract to maintain the proper temperature for optimal sperm germination would be a false statement because unaware and unintelligent hardware cannot comprehend itself and take action toward such a goal. However, this temperature control mechanism within the function of the testicles has been scientifically proven to be true, no? Something to consider.

[Joo (Quarantined)]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

So I can't say the name of our genitals, but we can spout the word "Whoredom" all we want? Well, I suppose that makes total sense.

Btw since when did I become a homer? I don't remember choosing to be gay...nor do I ever remember ever being attracted to a man...