[BornAgain]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

And why would an intelligent designer want that? What would be the point of creating a race of imperfect creatures many of whom are inclined to violence etc?
Are you saying that you believe your all powerful creator created a race whom he knew would turn against him and thus he'd have the fun of burning?
Hate to be mean, dude, but your beliefs are sick.

God created evil to test us. It wouldn't be fair if everyone just got a free pass into heaven without EARNING it first.

God wants us all to go to heaven, but as a Holy God, he must test us to make sure we are worthy of Him. Unfortunately, most of mankind has turned away from Him and His love and will suffer an eternity of gulping magma. Of course, everyone has a choice to follow His word and receive His loving gift of eternal salvation.

Won't you accept his gift?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

And why would an intelligent designer want that? What would be the point of creating a race of imperfect creatures many of whom are inclined to violence etc?
Are you saying that you believe your all powerful creator created a race whom he knew would turn against him and thus he'd have the fun of burning?
Hate to be mean, dude, but your beliefs are sick.

You hate to be mean? That's a laugh. You come in here every day and spew your hatred and mock God in every way imaginable! You advocate for sodomites, feminaziism, tree-huggers and baby-murderers....now THAT is sick!

Repent now, witch.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

That isn't what I mean. I mean that, if there were intelligent design, everything would run perfectly.

Right, deny the truth all you want, harlot.
It won't save you from the fiery pit of hell, where giant demon spiders will sodomize you for all eternity!

I wasn't talking about that, nor did I say that. Way to put words into my mouth! I was talking about the way some things are. That isn't contradicting evolution. Things can evolve to have strange and unusual behavior, learned by habit, like the wasp laying eggs on the spider. It's a strange world out there, and the behaviors which have EVOLVED over the years of some animals/plants/etc show not an intelligent design but rather an unusual adaptation.

With the kind of things usually put in your mouth, I'm surprised you would mind a few words in there..
And so, you basically agree that every animal is well designed then?
Thank you agreeing with me that God is a great and intelligent designer!
Praise God!

No, animals are perfectly able to evolve into strange and awkward if it helps them live in their environment. Haven't you ever seen 'the time machine?' If people were put underground with no light, you can bet they would in time evolve to suit the change. However if they then tried to live on the surface, they couldn't. Not to mention fish that live deep, deep in the ocean. They are adapted to extremely high pressure environments, but if you tried to take them out into the surface, well, the change would break them apart. So there you go. Awkward animals, yes, evolved to be so.

What is this obsession with fiction?
You have the irrefutable truth laid out in the holy KJV1611!!
So why would you need some stupid movie or some fictionous book?

And if that was true then here..
This is just as logical an experiment that you may try at home:
Put a few persons underwater and if evilution is true then they will "adapt" and "evolve" (ie grow) gills.
Oh they won't huh? You know why:
Because evilution is false and doesn't make sense!
Stop pushing this lie of satan!

Genes do exist and there is ample evidence to support that. Whereas what do you have to support your bible, huh?

What evidence is that?
It comes from the same source. (so-called "scientists)
That's the same guys as those pushing the gene myth!
Biased from beginning to end.

The Bible is supported by several witnesses:
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost:
And these three are one.
1 John 5:7

God is the most reliable witness of all, and there He testifies, in all of His three shapes which makes up the Holy trinity!
In court, one swears an oath on His Word, and that is supposed to be reliable enough to sentence a man to death..
So why would the very writer of said book be unreliable?
You don't make any sense!

I DO believe in evolution. Why else would I be arguing about it, sheesh? The fact is, things now do not show a perfectly constructed design, not at all.
Evolution doesn't happen in five minutes, it's still in the process of happening.

Why should He have designed something to be "perfect"?
God saw it was "GOOD", not perfect.
Are you to judge what's perfect or not? Only one is perfect: GOD!
There can only be one kind of perfection, it follows by logic, and that perfection is God.
And He does not share His glory with others.

And maybe I should remind you that you are far from perfect yourself.
Only God and His servants (True Christians) are allowed to pass any judgement, after all.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

There is were you have it wrong scrub botherer! You refuse to accept God wants man to be imperfect!

And why would an intelligent designer want that? What would be the point of creating a race of imperfect creatures many of whom are inclined to violence etc?
Are you saying that you believe your all powerful creator created a race whom he knew would turn against him and thus he'd have the fun of burning?
Hate to be mean, dude, but your beliefs are sick.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

That isn't what I mean. I mean that, if there were intelligent design, everything would run perfectly.

There is were you have it wrong scrub botherer! You refuse to accept God wants man to be imperfect!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

You see, it's not what you THINK it is, it is what we say it is.
The CAUSE (GOD) is intelligent, not necessarily the designed object, or are you saying ants must be intelligent?
Start making some sense for a change.

That isn't what I mean. I mean that, if there were intelligent design, everything would run perfectly.

Well done.
You just contradicted evilution by saying that so many animals are strange and obviously not very functionable.

I wasn't talking about that, nor did I say that. Way to put words into my mouth! I was talking about the way some things are. That isn't contradicting evolution. Things can evolve to have strange and unusual behavior, learned by habit, like the wasp laying eggs on the spider. It's a strange world out there, and the behaviors which have EVOLVED over the years of some animals/plants/etc show not an intelligent design but rather an unusual adaptation.

But according to evilution, no such thing can exist for long!
All those strange and akward animals would suggest a designer. Praise Him (God)!
But don't get angry because you don't share His taste in design, If He thinks a design is good, then by God, so it is!!

No, animals are perfectly able to evolve into strange and awkward if it helps them live in their environment. Haven't you ever seen 'the time machine?' If people were put underground with no light, you can bet they would in time evolve to suit the change. However if they then tried to live on the surface, they couldn't. Not to mention fish that live deep, deep in the ocean. They are adapted to extremely high pressure environments, but if you tried to take them out into the surface, well, the change would break them apart. So there you go. Awkward animals, yes, evolved to be so.

Because "genes" doesn't exist; DNA is a lie.
There is no danger in incest, it is simply forbidden by God.

Genes do exist and there is ample evidence to support that. Whereas what do you have to support your bible, huh?

And how would you know it if is "slapdash" or not?
You are not qualified to judge!
And I thought you believed in evilution!
According to evilution, every creature is as it is because of adaption.
Thus every creature is a well constructed design, and there are no "slapdash" designs.
Although evilution claim it is designed by some strange process you call "evilution" instead of the only logical explanation; GOD!

I DO believe in evolution. Why else would I be arguing about it, sheesh? The fact is, things now do not show a perfectly constructed design, not at all.
Evolution doesn't happen in five minutes, it's still in the process of happening.

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

Intelligent designer would imply intelligent design.

Let's quote something you vile secularists LOVE to quote, WikiPedophilia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design

Intelligent design (ID) is a teleological argument for the existence of God[1] stated in secular terms based on the premise that "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection."[2][3][4]

You see, it's not what you THINK it is, it is what we say it is.
The CAUSE (GOD) is intelligent, not necessarily the designed object, or are you saying ants must be intelligent?
Start making some sense for a change.

The fact that so many things are awkward and weird shows un-intelligent design. So if you believe in a creator god, you must surely believe that he's a drunkard, because if someone designed this mess, they were surely drunk at the time!

Well done.
You just contradicted evilution by saying that so many animals are strange and obviously not very functionable.
But according to evilution, no such thing can exist for long!
All those strange and akward animals would suggest a designer. Praise Him (God)!
But don't get angry because you don't share His taste in design, If He thinks a design is good, then by God, so it is!!

And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly,
After their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind:
And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:21

And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind:
And it was so.
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind:
And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:24-25

As was pointed out in another thread, if we were all born of two people, why are we not interrelated inbred hicks? Why is it that we share DNA with even apes and plants? Huh? Huh??
Anyway, my main point is, intelligent designer implies intelligent design, not a haphazard slapdash job

Because "genes" doesn't exist; DNA is a lie.
There is no danger in incest, it is simply forbidden by God.

And how would you know it if is "slapdash" or not?
You are not qualified to judge!
And I thought you believed in evilution!
According to evilution, every creature is as it is because of adaption.
Thus every creature is a well constructed design, and there are no "slapdash" designs.
Although evilution claim it is designed by some strange process you call "evilution" instead of the only logical explanation; GOD!

No, it's just proved that trying to talk to a rock would be easier!

God is a rock, infact He is THE ROCK. That's what He is!
So I take no offence in being likened to one either, if it's good enough for God, it is certainly good enough for me.
Although you do give me a bit too much credit, I'm not God, nor could I ever aspire to be, and never would I even try!

He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment:
A God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
Deuteronomy 32:4

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

Intelligent designer would imply intelligent design. The fact that so many things are awkward and weird shows un-intelligent design. So if you believe in a creator god, you must surely believe that he's a drunkard, because if someone designed this mess, they were surely drunk at the time!
As was pointed out in another thread, if we were all born of two people, why are we not interrelated inbred hicks? Why is it that we share DNA with even apes and plants? Huh? Huh??
Anyway, my main point is, intelligent designer implies intelligent design, not a haphazard slapdash job.

If you think you can do a better job, then have at it, silly woman. I will supervise. Lab tools: none. Materials provided: none. Ready, go.

Its not that easy, now is it? Let's let the Designer do the designing and let you do....whatever it is that you do.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

No.
Intelligent design implies, and is defined as, a belief that all life has been DESIGNED by an INTELLIGENT DESIGNER.
We True Christians know this as a fact, laid out for all to read back in the year of 1611 in the Holy KJV1611 Bible.

And consider this:
God is so vastly intelligent that you cannot fathom why He designed things in a certain way.
Is that too impossible for you to imagine? Are you too vain?

Intelligent designer would imply intelligent design. The fact that so many things are awkward and weird shows un-intelligent design. So if you believe in a creator god, you must surely believe that he's a drunkard, because if someone designed this mess, they were surely drunk at the time!
As was pointed out in another thread, if we were all born of two people, why are we not interrelated inbred hicks? Why is it that we share DNA with even apes and plants? Huh? Huh??
Anyway, my main point is, intelligent designer implies intelligent design, not a haphazard slapdash job.

And also, if evilution had been true, why aren't the gonads on the inside of the body?
It would make more evilutionary sense.

I already covered that in my post about species age and adaptation, page 2 of this thread.

We've been over this countless times, and so far everything you've posted has only served to strengthen our holy case of creationism!
Praise Jesus for making His enemies (you!) work for His servants (us) like this!

No, it's just proved that trying to talk to a rock would be easier!

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

The point is that intelligent design implies INTELLIGENT design. Not obvious flaws. Face it, your average car is far better deisgned. To give you an idea, if you were to make a car of a similar design to a human man, the engine would be on the hood of the car. Stupid, no?

No.
Intelligent design implies, and is defined as, a belief that all life has been DESIGNED by an INTELLIGENT DESIGNER.
We True Christians know this as a fact, laid out for all to read back in the year of 1611 in the Holy KJV1611 Bible.

And consider this:
God is so vastly intelligent that you cannot fathom why He designed things in a certain way.
Is that too impossible for you to imagine? Are you too vain?

And also, if evilution had been true, why aren't the gonads on the inside of the body?
It would make more evilutionary sense.
We've been over this countless times, and so far everything you've posted has only served to strengthen our holy case of creationism!
Praise Jesus for making His enemies (you!) work for His servants (us) like this!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

No, it says so because..... *snip*

If you want to debate the whole sons of god thing, why not make another thread? Or if you like, I will. But quit throwing red herrings in my original debate!

We have to take into consideration WHY He designed us in a certain way..
Because as you well know, He is an INTELLIGENT designer, He doesn't believe in evilution or "survival of the fittest"..
Instead He designs as He sees fit!
You have no right to question His motives.

And Samuel told him every whit, and hid nothing from him.
And he said, It is the LORD: let him do what seemeth him good.
1 Samuel 3:18

The point is that intelligent design implies INTELLIGENT design. Not obvious flaws. Face it, your average car is far better deisgned. To give you an idea, if you were to make a car of a similar design to a human man, the engine would be on the hood of the car. Stupid, no?

This thread is plain DISGUSTING!

And yet you somehow manage to find your way back into it.

But while we are at it.........Have you ever noticed that elbow skin looks just like testicle (GOD forgive me for typing that) skin?

And you accuse me of having a one-track mind!

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

What is this obsession you have with men's seed purses, Van Hellosatan? Don't you see enough of them at the orgies and sacrifices?

[Daisy Mae Johnson]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

This thread is plain DISGUSTING!

But while we are at it.........Have you ever noticed that elbow skin looks just like testicle (GOD forgive me for typing that) skin?

It just goes to show you how creative HE is. It's a little tougher and perhaps a little more elastic than regular skin because it protects importants parts.

Oh how I love HIM so!

GLORY!

Sister Thumper

[SalvationSeeker]

Re: Masculinity proves intelligent design!

Ok, consider this. It says 'the sons of god found the daughters OF MEN beautiful, and took wives such as they chose. The daughters of men, clearly suggesting a difference. If you believe your deity to indeed me a deity would it not be logical that if a deity were to have sons they'd be divine as well?
And by the way, quit throwing red herrings into my original debate!

No, it says so because women are created FROM men (our ribs), but also, it uses man in the sense of "mankind" (ie humans.)
Try knowing the entire Bible before you come up with these silly ideas, you stupid little rib!
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Genesis 2:22

Someone who is a "son of god" is one of these:
1. Directly created by God, without any human parts or human ovens (women) involved, such as angels.
2. Childed by God directly, inside a human oven, as was the case with Jesus. (Galatians 4:4)
3. One who is a son of God through adoption, such as we True Christians. (Galatians 4:5-6)

Even satan is.. WAS a "son of god" (ie an angel) before falling:

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
Job 1:6

That's why I asked if you consider him a god, satan is no god, yet he too was a son of god.
Thus your silly argument fails miserably.

We're talking about the idea of INTELLIGENT design, not your views on deserved mercy for your deity. The fact still stands that the male apparatus has room for improvement, and could hardly be called an intelligent design.

We have to take into consideration WHY He designed us in a certain way..
Because as you well know, He is an INTELLIGENT designer, He doesn't believe in evilution or "survival of the fittest"..
Instead He designs as He sees fit!
You have no right to question His motives.

And Samuel told him every whit, and hid nothing from him.
And he said, It is the LORD: let him do what seemeth him good.
1 Samuel 3:18

Repent, harlot!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: TESTICLES disprove intelligent design!

That isn't what I said. Quit twisting my words, that part was a joke. Did you read the part about species age and adaptation?

P.S. Is that ALL you ever think about? My word, BJ, is there even five minutes when you stop thinking about tallywhackers?