[MichaelJohnson]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Ok, so if Gravity as most understand doesn't exist, then it is truly God (working through either Intelligent Falling or Intelligent Pulling) that is in work. If this is true, then why don't atheists - or Satan, for that matter - fly off and die somewhere? Doesn't God hate atheists, Satan, homosexuals, etc?

Maybe I've read this whole entire thread wrong, but if God controls what goes up and what goes down, then why doesn't he just eliminate those who oppose Him?

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

fly off and die somewhere?

You need wings to fly.

[MichaelJohnson]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

You need wings to fly.

Acts 1:9 says,
"And when He had spoken these things, while they beheld, He was taken up; and a cloud received Him out of their sight."

Jesus Himself ascended to Heaven without wings, did He not? I agree that perhaps my wording was not the best, but it still does not answer my concern.

Why does God's gift of being pulled down to Earth also apply to those who mock, scoff at, and generally oppose Him?

[Dan U. Holier]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

I agree that gravity has destroyed my morals. Without it, it wouldn't be so easy to go down.

There’s nothing wrong with getting down on your knees in front of your man to show him respect and affection.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Ok, so if Gravity as most understand doesn't exist, then it is truly God (working through either Intelligent Falling or Intelligent Pulling) that is in work. If this is true, then why don't atheists - or Satan, for that matter - fly off and die somewhere? Doesn't God hate atheists, Satan, homosexuals, etc?

Maybe I've read this whole entire thread wrong, but if God controls what goes up and what goes down, then why doesn't he just eliminate those who oppose Him?

Job 37:5 God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Jesus Himself ascended to Heaven without wings, did He not?

Ascended, yes. Fly, no.

[MichaelJohnson]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Ascended, yes. Fly, no.

You're right. Like I said before, though, that wasn't the point of my post at all. I wasn't confused about the difference of ascending and flying. I was confused about the concept of Intelligent Falling and Intelligent Pulling and the Character of God. The logical fallacy of presenting an unrelated topic in order to draw attention from the main objection is called A Red Herring. If you are truly interested in answering the question, please do so, like Redeemed Papist did with love and patience. Please do not distract me from discovering the truth with minor problems in definition.

Job 37:5 God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend.

I understand what you're saying, that God works in mysterious ways. However, many have posted that the KJV1611 makes perfect sense when read all the way through. I agree that the Bible makes perfect sense. This makes another problem for me, though.

Psalm 9:5 says,
"Thou hast rebuked the heathen, Thou hast destroyed the wicked, Thou hast put out their name for ever and ever."

If God has truly destroyed the wicked, then why are there still atheists, homosexuals, etc. In particular - to address the original issue of this thread - why does God's will work in favor of the wicked?

Psalm 11:5 says,
"The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence His soul hateth."

God obviously hates the sinner and He cannot tolerate sin, so why do the wicked still exist?

As far as I know, the Bible says nothing about gravity, right?

Thanks for listening me and kindly and patiently answering my questions. Patiently awaiting your response.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

God obviously hates the sinner and He cannot tolerate sin, so why do the wicked still exist?

Because He made all. Very simple.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

As far as I know, the Bible says nothing about gravity, right?

No, it does not. Also bible does not say anything about aardvarks. Still, aarvarks are very real while gravity is just wild theory cooked up by some secular scientists.

[MichaelJohnson]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Because He made all. Very simple.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

1) This raises another question that might go to another thread. How could God, who is perfectly good, create evil? Isn't evil against God's character? Sorry about the new topic, there is probably a better thread for that question.

2) Again this does not address my question. You have explained the origin of wickedness and evil-doers. What I asked, however, is why said evildoers have not met their destruction. In particular - again, to bring it back to the subject of this thread - since gravity is nothing more than an unproved theory and God controls what goes up and down, why does God tolerate evil and wickedness to survive on Earth.

No, it does not. Also bible does not say anything about aardvarks. Still, aarvarks are very real while gravity is just wild theory cooked up by some secular scientists.

Since the Bible says nothing about aardvarks, how do you know they exist?

Thank you all for being so patient with a soul searching for answers. I appreciate the love and kindness you have shown me thus far. Patiently waiting for a response.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Who are you to question God? He knows more than you and everyone in your family put together.

Isaiah 55:8-9: For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

[MichaelJohnson]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Who are you to question God? He knows more than you and everyone in your family put together.

You're right. Our God is an awesome God. However, I don't believe it is loving or logical to resort to ad hominem attacks in the form of words or infractions when there is a question that cannot be answered with solely the Bible.

I am truly searching for an answer to my question. I believe there are plenty of brilliant scientists working on an answer to my question. That's all I want. I don't see any point in which I blasphemed the Holy Spirit. All I did was ask a question about the theory proposed concerning gravity.

We are told to love our friends AND our enemies - although I hope I'm not considered an enemy - and the Bible is very clear about brotherly love. All I want is to be guided by those who know the truth.

Please help.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

You're right. Our God is an awesome God. However, I don't believe it is loving or logical to resort to ad hominem attacks in the form of words or infractions when there is a question that cannot be answered with solely the Bible.

I am truly searching for an answer to my question. I believe there are plenty of brilliant scientists working on an answer to my question. That's all I want. I don't see any point in which I blasphemed the Holy Spirit. All I did was ask a question about the theory proposed concerning gravity.

We are told to love our friends AND our enemies - although I hope I'm not considered an enemy - and the Bible is very clear about brotherly love. All I want is to be guided by those who know the truth.

Please help.

There's your problem.

Trust in God, not scientists.

[MichaelJohnson]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

There's your problem.

Trust in God, not scientists.

I was referring to Creation scientists working on my question. I'm sorry for the confusion.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

I was referring to Creation scientists working on my question. I'm sorry for the confusion.

Which is more important to you: knowledge, or Eternal Salvation(tm)? Your soul is in mortal peril and here you are asking questions about science for entertainment purposes. You need to get your priorities straight:

Priority #1: Jesus

Priority #2: Everything else.

[MichaelJohnson]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Which is more important to you: knowledge, or Eternal Salvation™? Your soul is in mortal peril and here you are asking questions about science for entertainment purposes. You need to get your priorities straight:

Priority #1: Jesus

Priority #2: Everything else.

In my instance, I have already acquired salvation through my Faith in Jesus Christ. Now I want to know how God works in our world, which is called Creation Science. I'm not debating anyone. I'm not doing this for entertainment. I am genuinely looking for an answer to a question I have. If this is not the purpose of this thread, I am sorry. However, I don't think I'm wrong in assuming that creation scientists have an answer to my question. It still hasn't been answered, so I'll ask it again:

Since gravity (as the secular theorists call it) does not exist and God controls the all things, why does He allow atheists, secularists, naturalists, homosexuals, Satan, and blacks to continue to roam our green earth? Why does God choose to tolerate things He can't tolerate?

I am so confused. Please help.