[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

but didn't god choose my skin color? why would i have to be an 'ex-nigra' which is offensive you know!

What's offensive about rejecting your past life and being born again and washed free of sin in the blood of Christ? All you have to do is repent and then turn your back on theft and adultery and miscegenation.

[Christluvsme]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

It's offensive because you assume that skin colour has anything to do with the soul. Your beliefs are nothing more but a façade to allow you to spread the hate within yourself to others.

[Godsloveisinfinite]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

I am afraid I could not, for I believe that would be an act of hatred and judgement that belongs to the supreme Lord.

Do you know that some people 'become' homosexual because of a psychological defect due to childhood abuse and warped father - son relationships. Due to the complexities of human sexuality I could not hold a stone, because I too am a human, and in essence, flawed. Only the angels could hold stones. And I pray for homosexuals who are scared about the feelings they have, there are homosexuals who love God and who only want to please him, they deserve to be loved for the sheer power of their faith, they overcome hatred to still offer themselves to god.

Disobedient children - God made us so complex, because he loves us. He made us infinitely complex so we can discover things about ourselves and how our inner psychology works, we are truly artworks by a grand designer. Children are models of their parents, and different children have different capacities for behaviour. Physically punishing children also leads them to masochistic tendencies, and I believe God gave us the aptience and intelligence to teach children right from wrong in a sophisticated way. We are above animals, we are above violence. we are agents of Gods love and patience. Your dedication to the lord is beautiful, may I just say!

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

I am afraid I could not, for I believe that would be an act of hatred and judgement that belongs to the supreme Lord.

Do you know that some people 'become' homosexual because of a psychological defect due to childhood abuse and warped father - son relationships. Due to the complexities of human sexuality I could not hold a stone, because I too am a human, and in essence, flawed. Only the angels could hold stones. And I pray for homosexuals who are scared about the feelings they have, there are homosexuals who love God and who only want to please him, they deserve to be loved for the sheer power of their faith, they overcome hatred to still offer themselves to god.

Disobedient children - God made us so complex, because he loves us. He made us infinitely complex so we can discover things about ourselves and how our inner psychology works, we are truly artworks by a grand designer. Children are models of their parents, and different children have different capacities for behaviour. Physically punishing children also leads them to masochistic tendencies, and I believe God gave us the aptience and intelligence to teach children right from wrong in a sophisticated way. We are above animals, we are above violence. we are agents of Gods love and patience. Your dedication to the lord is beautiful, may I just say!

That's a shame. Because you seem rather happy to quote God to put your opinion above debate when it suits your purposes but reject God's love as soon as you get a bit jittery about what God clearly says and asks of you.

Romans 1:16-32
16For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Seems clear enough to me.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

Disobedient children - God made us so complex, because he loves us. He made us infinitely complex so we can discover things about ourselves and how our inner psychology works, we are truly artworks by a grand designer. Children are models of their parents, and different children have different capacities for behaviour. Physically punishing children also leads them to masochistic tendencies, and I believe God gave us the aptience and intelligence to teach children right from wrong in a sophisticated way. We are above animals, we are above violence. we are agents of Gods love and patience. Your dedication to the lord is beautiful, may I just say!

Can you just explain to me how God got it so wrong? What do you know that He doesn't?

Proverbs 13:24
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

YIC

Jack

[Godsloveisinfinite]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

I completely understand your point. The reason I would refuse to judge others is because I believe the bible was influenced by the writers. And for me I value biblical quotes about all-encompassing love over antagonistic quotes about hatred and death.

Prayer keeps me sane, if at the end of time It turns out I am wrong, then I will hold my hands up and beg for the mercy of God. But until the end of days I will forever hold love as a powerful force.

I wish I had your assurance, I wish I had the mindset you have, truly believing you are on the right path. All things are possible for one who believes.” Immediately the father of the boy cried out,

“I do believe, but help the little faith I have.”. - I believe this quote shows how I want God to show me my flaws explicitly so I can change them.

[Godsloveisinfinite]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

Can you just explain to me how God got it so wrong? What do you know that He doesn't?

Proverbs 13:24
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

YIC

Jack

Yes, I know nothing when compared to God. Please do not compare me to God, I am nothing in his shadow. The bible quote you provide represents discipline, and a time where physical punishment was a suitable option. We have developed as children of God.
Part of his blessing is our continual development, we have power in place to teach our children right from wrong. Isn't it beautiful to be able to raise a child without pain, to teach and discipline the sternly without the sword, but with the pen? God got nothing wrong, people do, we are not as perfect as the Supreme Creator, or his Son. I do not mean to compare us to God as I have said, any comparative style I seem to take is merely showing the effect of his love on us.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

Yes, I know nothing when compared to God. Please do not compare me to God, I am nothing in his shadow. The bible quote you provide represents discipline, and a time where physical punishment was a suitable option. We have developed as children of God.

I have checked the cover of my Bible and mine doesn't have a 'best before date'.

If you are using your own judgement over the word of God why not just become an atheist?

YIC

Jack

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

The reason I would refuse to judge others is because I believe the bible was influenced by the writers.

Why do you think that verses fitting your preexisting sinful lifestyle and secular values are truer than the verses that don't? You personally prefer love over hate. If it was that simple, why would you even need a Bible to cherry pick from? Obviously the Bible is meant to teach you something you didn't already know. If you only admit the propositions you already believe, what is the point of reading the book? You might as well wipe your anus with its pages and ignore God entirely. You have the same values as an atheist: your own conscience. The Bible helps us break free of our conscience by teaching us to condescend toward and execute people who are different than us, in ways that please God. It teaches a higher law than man's law.

[Godsloveisinfinite]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

I am wearing my heart on my sleeve and in this discussion I am being totally honest. Please do not puns and sarcasm against me because I am not trying to mock you.

The bible is applicable yesterday, now and forever. But the way we use those values grows with us as we grow closer to God as a race of people. We are only children under God, still growing, still learning, still making mistakes.

I will not be an atheist because the struggle of overcoming my flaws is beautiful because it brings me closer to God.

Total dedication to the saviour. Now and forever.

[Godsloveisinfinite]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

If you only admit the propositions you already believe, what is the point of reading the book? You might as well wipe your anus with its pages and ignore God entirely. You have the same values as an atheist: your own conscience. .

This is a very strong point, one I have often internally debated myself. The quotes I say I favour more I didn't necessarily always believe, they didn't naturally fit in with who I already was. I have worked hard to try and develop the loving, unbiased nature that the bible says I should have. I have strived hard to adhere to the rules of lying, and respect that I know I should have. I admit propositions I believe, and ones that I know I have. i admit ALL propositions, but I believe that quotes to do with hatred and death must be read with a knowledge of the Zeitgeist of the time it was written, and that the true message may lie underneath, that only the beautiful intelligence God gave us can unearth. Thank you for your challenging and relevant question

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

"the brown-eyed performed better, making them more likely to succeed at activities such as football, hockey and rugby."

And picking cotton, which unlike the above is actually useful. And pulling wagons, but we have animals for that.

Swarthy people are always so proud that they are "better" at animal skills. "Look at me, I can run fast!" No, horses and cheetas can run fast. And White People can think. You can't do either.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

Your point is very strong and relevant.

Because at that time, pro-creation was essential. The world needed to be populated by God's children, homosexual relations would encumber this act.

So why hasn't God, the all-powerful Creator of the entire Universe, seen fit to edit His Bible?

What other Commands of God do you think you should disregard, and why?

Also, as I'm sure you agree, God is perfect in every way, shape and form. Humans are not, I'm sure you will agree. When humans compiled the bible, it is naiive to assume that they compiled it without any influence of their own opinion, for this very reason I believe that homosexuality is condemned in the bible for social/historical reasons. The views of the writers permeated the text.

So explain this to me.

You appear to think the Bible is somehow not what God wants us to read. I'm guessing the parts you think God doesn't want us to read are the parts you personally disagree with, but that's beside the point.

If the Bible is not correct, then one of the following must be the case:

1. God is not all-powerful, and can't fix His Bible.
2. God is not all-knowing, and doesn't care that it's wrong.
3. God knows it is wrong and chooses not to fix it, so that we can all be confused, war amongst ourselves, and end up in His Lake of Fire anyway.
4. God does not exist.

Which of these do you think is the case?

God has so much power, and i believe he would rather rehabilitate those who have done wrong then destroy his creation.

Do you recall the Flood?

God gave Noah ONE HUNDRED YEARS to build a big boat. During that time, He surely could have popped in to visit others and convince them to obey Him, no? But instead of "rehabilitating" them, He chose to drown all humans, including unborn babies and toddlers, and all the animals, because the adult humans refused to obey Him.

So, upon what do you base your belief that He would "rather rehabilitate"?

[Godsloveisinfinite]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

So why hasn't God, the all-powerful Creator of the entire Universe, seen fit to edit His Bible?

What other Commands of God do you think you should disregard, and why?


So explain this to me.

You appear to think the Bible is somehow not what God wants us to read. I'm guessing the parts you think God doesn't want us to read are the parts you personally disagree with, but that's beside the point.

If the Bible is not correct, then one of the following must be the case:

1. God is not all-powerful, and can't fix His Bible.
2. God is not all-knowing, and doesn't care that it's wrong.
3. God knows it is wrong and chooses not to fix it, so that we can all be confused, war amongst ourselves, and end up in His Lake of Fire anyway.
4. God does not exist.

Which of these do you think is the case?


Do you recall the Flood?

God gave Noah ONE HUNDRED YEARS to build a big boat. During that time, He surely could have popped in to visit others and convince them to obey Him, no? But instead of "rehabilitating" them, He chose to drown all humans, including unborn babies and toddlers, and all the animals, because the adult humans refused to obey Him.

So, upon what do you base your belief that He would "rather rehabilitate"?

I base all my views on God's love. The flood is metaphorical, the Old-Testament God is obviously more violent than the New-Testament god. Yes I disagree with them with the Morality that is given to me by God.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Study proves blue eyed white people are smarter.

I base all my views on God's love. The flood is metaphorical, the Old-Testament God is obviously more violent than the New-Testament god. Yes I disagree with them with the Morality that is given to me by God.

Oh really? So how do you counter the atheist who says everything in the Bible is metaphorical? What makes you so special that you get it right while everyone else is on a continuum of a bit wrong to plain wrong based on arbitrary standards in your own head?

You're just making up your own idea of God and having the arrogance to mock us for believing in Him based on the Bible more than you. How does it feel to be a smug false prophet? How dare you make up your own version of God then question people for having actual faith?

It's super easy to believe in a God that's actually you. So what happens when you decide in your head that there is no God and you can just make up your own morals and cut out the fake middle man? And what's stopping you?

Shame on you!