[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Another of satans pawns have come to mock us... satan can't stand it when good Christian men and women spread the truth about God and his glory.

Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

I know Brother, I know. When will they ever learn that they are merely relying on feeble "theories" conjured up by imperfect men. It's certainly a shame that they don't realize the TRUTH of God, which makes all their little "theories", moot.

All we can do is pray for them.

YIC

Sister Phebe.

[Athiest4answers]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

First of all, that verse is out of context, I am not mocking you or persecuting you. The beatitudes in their full context read as such;

Matthew 5;

1And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:

2And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying,

3Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

4Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.

5Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

6Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

7Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.

8Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.

9Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

10Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

12Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.



So the verse would appropriately apply if I were mocking or persecuting you, I am attempting to have an intelligent conversation with you and allow you to give me good reasons that I am incorrect in my evaluations of the situation. I have refrained from insulting you in any way and would appreciate it if you did not refer to me as "satans pawn" when I was given the impression that I am a soul to be saved.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Thinking in such a secular way mr atheist will not lead you to salvation.

Also, we can only tell you of God and His Glory. The rest is between you and He.

YIC

Phebe Carlyle.

[Master Gordon]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Thinking in such a secular way mr atheist will not lead you to salvation.

Also, we can only tell you of God and His Glory. The rest is between you and He.

YIC

Phebe Carlyle.

Amen to that Sister Phebe...

I continue to pray for the poor lost soul.

[plvary]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

bye wat you people haven't given any facts to prove the earth is flat. all you've done is quote a 6000 year old book that has already prooven to be false, the earth wasnt created in 7 days it was created over MILLIONS of years. evolution does exists other wise their wouldn't be any cures to any disease. so creationism has been rebuked back in the 1800's

1000 years or so is "=" to one day of god. so you are right to think that earth was not made in "6" days of our time (he rested on the 7th) and i had a very christian teacher who belived that god created every thing with evoluian (typo i know) he belived that god created every thing but did so in a way that took time to be right in the end. hiss thoughts wear very interesting. showed me how magnents worked. (this was like in 1st grade) now i don't belive it took millions of years. maybe 3 but not this 65 million or 300 billion crap.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

1000 years or so is "=" to one day of god. so you are right to think that earth was not made in "6" days of our time (he rested on the 7th) and i had a very christian teacher who belived that god created every thing with evoluian (typo i know) he belived that god created every thing but did so in a way that took time to be right in the end. hiss thoughts wear very interesting. showed me how magnents worked. (this was like in 1st grade) now i don't belive it took millions of years. maybe 3 but not this 65 million or 300 billion crap.

Your teacher will burn in Hell for misleading and raping you. God needed 6 actual days to create everything and not a minute more.

[plvary]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Your teacher will burn in Hell for misleading and raping you. God needed 6 actual days to create everything and not a minute more.

what the -? i never said he raped me. (and yet the fox news reporter wont? it's in another thread) and that was his opion not mine, i personly don't belive in the idea of evolving from apes *shivers in dissgust from the thought* but i do belive that it takes almost or even more then a 1000 years. he told adem and eve not to eat the fruit for if they do they will surelly die in the day of eating and the bible says adem was like what over 600 years old when he died? so that could only mean that god ment one of his days not one of mans days. i'm not trying to argue on this matter. and it has nothing to do with the thread i was just saying that there are ppl that belive god created every thing and just used evolion to do it.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

but i do belive that it takes almost or even more then a 1000 years

You seem to have Stockholm syndrome for believing everything your rapists told you.

Everything you need to know is in the Holy Bible. There is no need to make up stuff of your own, at all!

• The Bible says Earth is flat, so Earth is flat.
• The Bible says God needed 6 days to create everything, so that is the time it took.
• The Bible doesn't mention evolution, so evolution is clearly a hoax.
• If the Bible says people can be 600 years old, then they can be 600 years old.

Get it?

[zacattarack12]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Let me just start this off that everyone has the right to believe whatever they want, that's what makes this country what it is.

But there are very simple explanations for all of the experiments.

1. Jump. The reason that you do not land miles and miles from where you started is because you are moving at the same speed of rotation with the earth. If you are on a flat bed truck moving at 75 miles an hour and jump, you will land in the same place (given that the wind is not blowing you back). And i know this for sure, I've actually done this exact experiment.

A simple way to test this is to ask the question; when you're driving on the highway in your car, and you hold up a pen an drop it, does it go shooting to the back of the car because the car is moving at 80 mph? (I'm from Chicago, thats how fast we go on the highways) No, it drops to the floor.


2. Blow. This one is also not true, I'm sorry to say. The reason that nobody south of the equator falls off is the same reason everything in your house is not tilted. Rev. Osbourne, i see you live in Iowa. The latitude of Iowa (degrees above the equator) is only about 42°. If what you're saying was true, then you and everything around you would be tilted and sliding towards the equator. This may seem like I'm proving your theory, but theres something called gravity. This pulls everything down towards the center of the earth. Things with astronomically large masses (such as planets) have an attraction force. Even if the earth was flat, gravity would have to be present or everyone would float off into space. Saying that if the earth was flat, everyone and everything would not fly off into space is saying theres gravity. Gravity could not exist on a flat planet.

Your balloon experiment, while a good model, does not work the same way. The mass of the earth is roughly 6x10^24 kilograms. That's 6000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilograms. The average person weighs around 70kg lets say. The balloon in your experiment probably weight somewhere around a few grams. The spec of paper, a fraction of that. If the balloon did indeed have the same relative weight to the paper as the earth does to humans, then yes, it would stay there. The balloon is not much bigger in mass, just larger.


3. Get High. Again, this one can be easily disproved. If the earth was flat, then simply going to the top of the Empire State building would allow you to see England. You can't though, the Earth is so large that from our perspective, the curve is so minute that it's unnoticeable. The reason you can see farther when you get higher is because the earth is curved. If it was flat, you could see the same distance at the top of the empire state building than you could in an airplane. You can see much farther in an airplane. And yes, you can never see those far distances. They are eternally over the horizon... Until you get closer to them. Then the horizon becomes a further point.



I am all for alternate theories to explain things. We would not know what we do today if everyone blindly believed what they were told. You may ask how I know some of these things for sure. I don't. I've viewed all of the evidence, done my own personal experiments, and made my decision on what i believe. This may change if there is new evidence. Also, I'm an Astrophysics major at Indiana university and spend about 90% of my time studying these things.

This is, also, not me negating the existence of a higher power. I do believe there is some sort of higher power. The thing is, it's up to nobody but me to decide. I'm not sure if there's a god, and I'll most likely never know. but I do think there is. At least i hope there is. I'm not sure if he created heaven and earth, I'm not sure he created man (I believe in evolution), I am not against the church. Clergy have been some of the greatest scientists (and my personal favorite) and astronomers ever. Copernicus was a Priest, Gregor Mendel, the father of genetics was an Abbot. And probably one of the greatest scientists of all time, Issac Newton's 2 life passions were studying the bible, and science/mathematics.

Nobody can be 100% positive about anything. The Mayans were positive that the sun was god and would strike them down if they didn't make daily human sacrifices. Greeks believed that the sun was a chariot that was drawn across the sky by massive horses. And until 1960, the catholic church frowned upon interracial dating (sorry, i don't mean to be rude, but that's just not one of my favorite things). And up until a few seconds ago, you were sure that the earth was flat. It's the "Schrödinger's cat" paradox: we don't know, until we know.

-(also one question i've always had and never gotten a straight answer: jesus was jewish, so wasn't it good enough for him? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. And yes, I'm jewish. My relationship with god is what's important, that's what the bible teaches. I try to live my life like jesus. Not how the edited and edited and edited again bible says. Help people as often as i can. Do not do harm to others. Live by those two rules and you can never go wrong.)

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Mr catattack,

Jesus was not a jew.

YIC

Phebe Carlyle.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

[...]

-(also one question i've always had and never gotten a straight answer: jesus was jewish, so wasn't it good enough for him?

Jesus was NOT Jewish

And yes, I'm jewish. My relationship with god is what's important, that's what the bible teaches.

Yes your relaitonship with God is important, He knows you killed his son.

[Ksevio]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

• If the Bible says people can be 600 years old, then they can be 600 years old.

Get it?

Though not older than 120 since the days of Noah of course.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Though not older than 120 since the days of Noah of course.

No. that is incorrect.

Shem lived to be 600, Eber was 464, Terah was 205, Abraham 175 and Moses 120. ALL after Noah.


YIC

Sister Phebe.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

No. that is incorrect.

Shem lived to be 600, Eber was 464, Terah was 205, Abraham 175 and Moses 120. ALL after Noah.


YIC

Sister Phebe.

Ge:6:3: And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Probably the Lord had a winding down period so as to allow mankind to get used to the idea. We also know that God is outside time itself, and so His 120 years could be any time at all.

[Phebe Carlyle]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT

Ge:6:3: And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Probably the Lord had a winding down period so as to allow mankind to get used to the idea. We also know that God is outside time itself, and so His 120 years could be any time at all.

Indeed Brother! God does not have to explain His methods to us and if He deems that some (with whom His spirit DOES strive) can live longer, then so be it. Who are WE to question Him. As we know with God ALL and anything is possible.

Jeremiah 32 is a great example:

16 Now when I had delivered the evidence of the purchase unto Baruch the son of Neriah, I prayed unto the LORD, saying,

17 Ah Lord GOD! behold, thou hast made the heaven and the earth by thy great power and stretched out arm, and there is nothing too hard for thee:

18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name,

19 Great in counsel, and mighty in work: for thine eyes are open upon all the ways of the sons of men: to give every one according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings:

(the above is just a taste)

His perfection and ability to do and accomplish ALL and anything is confirmed in every scripture.

AMEN!!!!!

YIC

Phebe Carlyle.