[Jedediah]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

tl;dr

Until you understand exactly what it is you profess to believe in, you have absolutely no business calling yourself a Christian. But I understand all too well that we live in a depraved culture where pop spirituality is sold as a commodity just the same as the latest Harry Potter witchcraft book or Tila Tequila lesbean sex tape. Jesus has much to say about you know-nothing, bandwagon-hopping false pseudo-christians, including the following:

Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

The shallowness of your understanding is evidenced by your implication that claiming to be a Christian is sufficient for Salvation™, even when one continues to wallow in denial of the Word of God by adhering to the vain babblings of "science", so falsely called (I Timothy 6:20-21). Friend, it is not sufficient to merely raise your hand or to check the right box on a questionnaire. To be Saved® means to have a complete internal transformation, to the point where you can no longer be said to be the same person (I Peter 1:23)! To be Saved® means that you have not only had your past sins washed away, but that you are indeed incapable of committing sin!

I John 3:6-9
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

For you to suggest that a Christian would persist in denial of Bible Facts only goes to show how little you actually know about what it means to be a blood-bought son of the Lamb.

So please do not call yourself a Christian until you can actually trouble yourself the minimal effort required to understand exactly what it is you claim to be. I want you to join me in Heaven, singing praise songs for all eternity, but at this point I'd say your prospects are not looking very good.

I exhort you to take your faith more seriously, friend.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Why would anyone make up an invisible friend inside his own head, claim that that invisible friend is the creator of the earth and firmament and then worship that invisible friend? To furthermore claim that other people who are actually worshipping the real and living God (who was definitely not just made up inside people's heads but is real and did real things that are recorded infallibly in the Bible) are wrong and should worship his made up God inside his own head because he knows best seems a touch arrogant.

I really struggle to understand people like that who would work so tirelessly to mislead people from the only Salvation(R) game in town.

[Joshua.Wright]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

We know the Earth is flat because the Bible tells us so. But for those of you skeptical, close-minded types that flat out refuse to accept the overwhelming Biblical evidence, I have designed some experiments you can do at home that will show you, before your very eyes, that the world is indeed flat, and not spherical as some crazy scientists proclaim. It's amazing how many people blindly believe in a spherical Earth, without ever having seen it for themselves! I intend to change that.


1) Jump!
Now, scientists claim that Earth is spherical and rotating at a speed of between 700-1000 miles per hour, depending on your latitude. This is a very high rate of speed. You can disprove this nonsense by simply jumping up as high as you can. Really, it's that simple. What happens when you jump? You come straight down to where you were. But, if the Earth were indeed spinning at such a fast speed, wouldn't you land hundreds of feet away?

If you were to stand in the flat bed of a truck going 75 mph, and jump straight up, what would happen? You wouldn't fall straight down. You would fall out of the truck. That's because trucks move, the Earth doesn't. This experiment proves the Earth is fixed in space and doesn't move.

[SIZE=4]2) Momentum
While standing on the earth's surface, we move at the same speed as it does. This, combined with the momentum from the legs allows us to not fly around the earth when we jump.

2) Blow!
Since if the Earth is supposedly a sphere, it naturally comes to assume what would happen to people below the equator, like in Australia? Since they are underneath the sphere, wouldn't they fall off? This is where scientists come up with mumbo-jumbo like "gravity" and "centrifugal force" to explain away their theories. So, the scientists want you to think that because the earth is so much more massive than people or things, that people will naturally "stick" to the bottom of the earth because of gravity.

This can be disproved very simply. Get a balloon and inflate it as big as possible. It will be a spherical shape. Now, take a piece of paper and try to rip, tear, or cut the tiniest speck of paper possible. This paper represents a human being, much smaller in mass to the balloon, which represents the Earth. Now try and place the small piece of paper to the underside of the balloon. What happens? It falls off!

That's right. Even though the balloon is so much bigger in mass, it cannot hold the tiny paper. So if the Earth was a sphere, no one could live below the equator because they would fall off.

SIZE MATTERS
Tell me Jim, what's bigger, the planet earth or a balloon? gravity doesn't refer to size in comparison of something else, it refers to overall size, you'd have to be massive to have a gravitational pull.

3) Get High!
Ok, this one you really can't do at home, but you can do it out in the world. Stand on the ground and look around you. What's the farthest you can see? Maybe it's a building, tree, or mountain. Now, find some place very close to it where you can get a much higher vantage point. (This also works if you're on a jet and about to take off.) Notice how in the higher place you can see much farther? You can see more of the world the higher you get. This shows the world is flat because the higher you go, the easier it is to see over obstacles. At the same time, it shows the world cannot be spherical. Because if the world was curved, the far distance would forever remain out of view because of the Earth's curvature. It would eternally be over the horizon.

If the Earth was a sphere, it would not matter how high you went, you would still see the same thing. Since this is not the case, the Earth is flat.

OCEANS
If you look out at the ocean, there's only water, no obstacles, so shouldn't I be able to see until an obstacle did block my line of sight?

Now for a theory of my own.

ETERNAL WATERFALL

If the earth was flat, and the ocean is in constant motion, it should have already flowed off the edges (Which by the way have never been seen, Im sure someone would notice an infinite drop in their front yard) meaning that the ocean would no longer exist.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

If the earth was flat, and the ocean is in constant motion, it should have already flowed off the edges (Which by the way have never been seen, Im sure someone would notice an infinite drop in their front yard) meaning that the ocean would no longer exist.

God Himself has never been seen (unless you count Moses who saw his back parts).

Exodus 33:17-23
17And the LORD said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken: for thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name. 18And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory. 19And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy. 20And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. 21And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: 22And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: 23And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

What a good job for all of us that Noah didn't demand visual proof from God or all of us would never have been born!

Hebrews 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.

I don't really see what point you are actually trying to make here. You're trying to tell a bunch of True Christians™ that if they haven't seen a thing they can't believe it exists.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I don't really see what point you are actually trying to make here. You're trying to tell a bunch of True Christians™ that if they haven't seen a thing they can't believe it exists.

That doesn't even make sense. I've never "seen" the love I have for my children and yet I know it exists.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

That doesn't even make sense. I've never "seen" the love I have for my children and yet I know it exists.

Do atheists believe in love? How can they? I feel sad for poor loveless atheists.

[James Hutchins]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Friend, I understand your quandry. When I was at Princeton years ago, I too, had a feeling the Bible was, well preposterous.

2) Momentum While standing on the earth's surface, we move at the same speed as it does. This, combined with the momentum from the legs allows us to not fly around the earth when we jump.

I thought this too. Then I did an experiment. I walked backward at 3 mph and threw the ball at 3mph. According to your logic, the ball should of just hovered over the ground. It did not. Score One for God.

SIZE MATTERS
Tell me Jim, what's bigger, the planet earth or a balloon? gravity doesn't refer to size in comparison of something else, it refers to overall size, you'd have to be massive to have a gravitational pull.

Again, on the surface, what you are say makes sense. So I got a huge boulder and a pebble. You know what? The tiny bit of tissue did not go towards either one. God apparently did not want it to.
Score and ther for God.

OCEANS
If you look out at the ocean, there's only water, no obstacles, so shouldn't I be able to see until an obstacle did block my line of sight?

Friend, I do not know anyone that can see 100 miles, let alone 10,000 miles. If your eyes were that good, you should have no problem seeing the coals of the sun being stoked. Which you have not.
Score a third one for God.

Now for a theory of my own.

ETERNAL WATERFALL

If the earth was flat, and the ocean is in constant motion, it should have already flowed off the edges (Which by the way have never been seen, Im sure someone would notice an infinite drop in their front yard) meaning that the ocean would no longer exist.

On the surface, your premise makes sense. A man takes a glass of water, slowly pours it out, the glass will run dry, right? Except if the glass actually The Holy Grail. Now we all know the oceans are not The Holy Grail. However, we do know the Oceans wer made by God. So as the seas pour over the edges of the fimament, God replenishes them. Think about the great flood. Where did that water come from? Where did it go?
Score the fourth and final point for God.

Lets recap, shall we?
God-4
You-0

Even if God was wrong on one count, he still was resoundingly correct. I suggest repenting your doubt of Him immediately and pray He forgives you.

[sillysatin]

Re: silly babtist

centrivical force: grab a basket put a egg in it. spin the basket vertically fast enough and the egg wont fall out.

gravity: every object has mass and the greater mass will always pull other objects tword it depending factors of speed and momentum. hence when we jump were already moving at the same speed of the earth so it appears we land in the same place. and with the balloon. the balloon is filled with air so it would be attracted to the paper instead of the reverse. and since the earth has greater density and mass than eathier. they both fall to the ground. also to knowtic any gravitational attraction the mass sizes must be to an extream ammount.

round earth: just take a trip around the earth and you will knowtic you dont fall off. and eventually if you can use a damn gps youll end up where you started.

sincearly- Silly Satan

[Brother Enoch]

Re: silly babtist

centrivical force: grab a basket put a egg in it. spin the basket vertically fast enough and the egg wont fall out.

gravity: every object has mass and the greater mass will always pull other objects tword it depending factors of speed and momentum. hence when we jump were already moving at the same speed of the earth so it appears we land in the same place. and with the balloon. the balloon is filled with air so it would be attracted to the paper instead of the reverse. and since the earth has greater density and mass than eathier. they both fall to the ground. also to knowtic any gravitational attraction the mass sizes must be to an extream ammount.

round earth: just take a trip around the earth and you will knowtic you dont fall off. and eventually if you can use a damn gps youll end up where you started.

sincearly- Silly Satan

I'm sorry my colored sister, but I don't speak ebonics.

I'm sure you're praising the Lord but I can't make heads or tails of it. Can someone translate?

[Joshua.Wright]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Friend, I understand your quandry. When I was at Princeton years ago, I too, had a feeling the Bible was, well preposterous.I thought this too. Then I did an experiment. I walked backward at 3 mph and threw the ball at 3mph. According to your logic, the ball should of just hovered over the ground. It did not. Score One for God.

Again, on the surface, what you are say makes sense. So I got a huge boulder and a pebble. You know what? The tiny bit of tissue did not go towards either one. God apparently did not want it to.
Score and ther for God.

Friend, I do not know anyone that can see 100 miles, let alone 10,000 miles. If your eyes were that good, you should have no problem seeing the coals of the sun being stoked. Which you have not.
Score a third one for God.

On the surface, your premise makes sense. A man takes a glass of water, slowly pours it out, the glass will run dry, right? Except if the glass actually The Holy Grail. Now we all know the oceans are not The Holy Grail. However, we do know the Oceans wer made by God. So as the seas pour over the edges of the fimament, God replenishes them. Think about the great flood. Where did that water come from? Where did it go?
Score the fourth and final point for God.

Lets recap, shall we?
God-4
You-0

Even if God was wrong on one count, he still was resoundingly correct. I suggest repenting your doubt of Him immediately and pray He forgives you.

1. There's still the momentum from your arm pushing the ball probably adding another 1-2 mph. Score one for science.

2. Your still thinking of gravity as being relative to size. If you want to prove me wrong, think massive. Score 2 for science
3. True, however looking with a telescope which is designed to let me see that far still doesn't let me. score 3 for science
4. Ok you got me here. Score one for you

RECAP
Science: 3
You: 1
p.s. Im not doubting god, I just find somethings he did illogical. For example, he created the dinosaurs just so he could kill them all off? He gave us the ability to feel pain and sickness when they cause nothing but suffering and sadness? And finally, if it was so important that Adam and Eve didn't eat from it, why did he make the tree with the forbidden fruit?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

1. There's still the momentum from your arm pushing the ball probably adding another 1-2 mph. Score one for science.

2. Your still thinking of gravity as being relative to size. If you want to prove me wrong, think massive. Score 2 for science
3. True, however looking with a telescope which is designed to let me see that far still doesn't let me. score 3 for science
4. Ok you got me here. Score one for you

RECAP
Science: 3
You: 1
p.s. Im not doubting god, I just find somethings he did illogical. For example, he created the dinosaurs just so he could kill them all off? He gave us the ability to feel pain and sickness when they cause nothing but suffering and sadness? And finally, if it was so important that Adam and Eve didn't eat from it, why did he make the tree with the forbidden fruit?

So because you don't understand God therefore God doesn't exist? Great job! You got me convinced.

[robi4567]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

So these are very easy to dissprove.
1.)Jumping
The reason you dont move far away from jumping is that you are also moving at the same speed as the earth. Think about when you are in a car you also move at the same speed as the car.
2.)Gravity
The experiment is just wrong because. Earts gravity comes from its metal core thats really dense and also a few other things but you cant see the gravitaitional effect of a baloon. By the way there is no up or down when talking in terms like this.
3.) Getting High
You can see the earth curvature on the horizon. Also once you get high enough you will be in space and see a spinning sphere.

Oh by the way if the earth is flat where is the edge because i cant find it.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

So these are very easy to dissprove.
1.)Jumping
The reason you dont move far away from jumping is that you are also moving at the same speed as the earth. Think about when you are in a car you also move at the same speed as the car.
2.)Gravity
The experiment is just wrong because. Earts gravity comes from its metal core thats really dense and also a few other things but you cant see the gravitaitional effect of a baloon. By the way there is no up or down when talking in terms like this.
3.) Getting High
You can see the earth curvature on the horizon. Also once you get high enough you will be in space and see a spinning sphere.

Oh by the way if the earth is flat where is the edge because i cant find it.

Why do you think the Bible is all lies?

[Noah Sole]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

So these are very easy to dissprove.
1.)Jumping
The reason you dont move far away from jumping is that you are also moving at the same speed as the earth. Think about when you are in a car you also move at the same speed as the car.

You move at the same speed as the car because you are physically sitting in it and so attached to it duh!!
When you are in the air from jumping you are not physically attached to anything so if the earth was spinning you should stay still.

2.)Gravity
The experiment is just wrong because. Earts gravity comes from its metal core thats really dense and also a few other things but you cant see the gravitaitional effect of a baloon. By the way there is no up or down when talking in terms like this.

You stay attached to the earth because of the pressure of the air and clouds above us pressing down not because of a 'metal core' which doesn't exist (if it does where is a photograph of it eh?).

3.) Getting High
You can see the earth curvature on the horizon. Also once you get high enough you will be in space and see a spinning sphere.

You cannot see the earth's curvature at the horizon, think about it logically, how could it curve? If it did it would bend downwards and disappear.

Oh by the way if the earth is flat where is the edge because i cant find it.

Nor can I but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Your answers show evidence of retardedness - so does your spelling.

All the best

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

You can see the earth curvature on the horizon.

Imagine you are on a small island and could see the horizon all around you. Now remember a point on the horizon and slowly do a 360 degrees turn looking at the horizon directly in front of you. If the horizon was curving then it wouldn't match up with your original starting position would it?

It does match up EXACTLY. This is proof that the horizon is straight and the Earth is flat.

YIC

Jack