[Alvin Moss]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

You do realize that scientists are responsible for the medicine that saved millions of lives each year, for the cars that you drive, and for the computer that you typed this on? Scientists perform experiments to figure out how the universe works and then invent things based off of that knowledge. Without science, you would be unable to have any of these things. Also, if you live in certain regions, you probably get the majority of your electricity from uranium atoms splitting in a machine called a nuclear reactor.

Also, like almost everyone, I find the conversion between US and Metric units to be rather annoying.

Matthew 10:29 tells us that the Lord is aware of every sparrow's fall. In other words, He knows all things, guides all things and is responsible for all things. Your fancy science gibberish is all hogwash.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Originally Posted by Graphite
By easier calculation, I meant that I wanted the final result to be in US customary units... blah, blah, blah... Sorry for confusion regarding this.

Sorry for the confusion, he says. See what I mean?

Well exactly, Brother Alvin!

Also, like almost everyone, I find the conversion between US and Metric units to be rather annoying.

One of my 9-year-olds offers this tip for the future, dear. If you are doing a calculation like that, with the data in metric units, and you want the result in proper American units, then:

1. Do the calculation in metric.
2. Convert the result to American.

James says you will find this a lot quicker than your usual method, though the result will still be nonsense because GIGO, whatever that means.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

We know the Earth is flat

You've heard of gravity, yes? It's the answer to your questions. A whole lot of experiments have been done in space illustrating the different behavior of objects and substances without gravity.

If the earth is flat, those people who go up in spacecrafts where it is clearly seen to be round are what, hallucinating? There's an extra dimension we can't perceive. Put an ant on a ball, it will walk all the way around, thinking it's on an infinite flat surface. We, are like ants on the ball.

You left a rather glaring omission there too. If Earth is flat, what about the edge? Why has no one ever fallen off or even seen the edge? What's supposed to be on the other side?

[BuddyBraeswood]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

You've heard of gravity, yes? It's the answer to your questions. A whole lot of experiments have been done in space illustrating the different behavior of objects and substances without gravity.

Even after all these years, still a theory. No ones been in space like you think. Newton's book, Principia, is nothing but if statements (like anything, look for original) surrounded by the idea earth is a globe.

If the earth is flat, those people who go up in spacecrafts where it is clearly seen to be round are what, hallucinating?

No, they're just part of the problem selling the lies to get more of your money with fish eye lenses and good artistry. Here's a previous post with references, please take a look, do your research. Also, just a quick one...red bull jump, watch when he opens the door, FLAT horizon. There are a number of people who have sent up there own balloons and rockets...check it out, dare ya!!

There's an extra dimension we can't perceive. Put an ant on a ball, it will walk all the way around, thinking it's on an infinite flat surface. We, are like ants on the ball.

Dimension we can't perceive? Witchcraft. Besides, doesn't exist. Trust your own senses.

You left a rather glaring omission there too. If Earth is flat, what about the edge? Why has no one ever fallen off or even seen the edge? What's supposed to be on the other side?

We're surrounded by a wall of ice. Look into Antarctica explorers (before the 1900's, well, Op High Jump should be on your list too but don't start with that one). A few have calculated it to be over 70,000 miles. Bring on the GPS, got that too and not enough time. Check military bases an notice how they don't go passed a certain latitude. Also, look at the "division of the land," makes more sense on a flat earth. Not supposed to pull from it but the Book of Enoch tells of venturing out the "dome" and he describes a nothingness beyond. Also gives description of what we're in and the mechanics of it.

Ha. The only thing glaring is your utter persistence to prove the Bible wrong. Rely on your logic, fine...just, at least, do your own research. Don't rely on the knowledge given to you by those in power. They don't care about you (too much fluoride in your water, hope you're filtering). Look, I understand it's a lot to take in, to believe that you've been lied to all these years and what about...truth hurts but hell is going to hurt worse.

One more that opened up my eyes to this (there are so many examples), is flight durations. If the "globe" is spinning at ~1100mph (at the equator) then how is it the same amount of time traveling east or west? Commercial planes go no faster than 500mph. Traveling east, you'd never make your destination. I'll pull from red bull again, if the earth was spinning how did he land so close to his take off point? There are more holes in your theory than you realize. Again, lean on your logic, fine but at least show some signs of intelligence with it. Then, when you realize your errors, come back, take the next step in your salvation. You're already here, "playing with fire" which is really just your own salvation.

Grass is greener. Don't take my word for it though, look for yourself.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

There's an extra dimension we can't perceive.

You sound like one of those superstitious artsy-fartsy women who goes around spouting things like "The Essence of the All is the Godhead of the True".



The KJV will enable you to cast aside your blind, unthinking superstition and come to His Beloved Presence. Try it, dear. We will pray for you.


YiC
Joanna

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Even after all these years, still a theory. No ones been in space like you think. Newton's book, Principia, is nothing but if statements (like anything, look for original) surrounded by the idea earth is a globe.

Anyone rich enough can actually go into space. Anyone, rich or no, can look through a telescope and see these celestial bodies for themselves, of which earth is one.

No, they're just part of the problem selling the lies to get more of your money with fish eye lenses and good artistry. Here's a previous post with references, please take a look, do your research. Also, just a quick one...red bull jump, watch when he opens the door, FLAT horizon. There are a number of people who have sent up there own balloons and rockets...check it out, dare ya!!

Those references are ridiculous. One a video of yet another person trying to claim the moon landing is a hoax. This has been disproved repeatedly.
The other claiming the ISS is underwater? What a joke. Anyone with a telescope can see it in the sky, orbiting the earth due to that gravity thing.

Dimension we can't perceive? Witchcraft. Besides, doesn't exist. Trust
your own senses.

We know that we can perceive a dimension that the ant on the balloon cannot. We, outside of the ant, can clearly observe this phenomenon. Likewise those from space can see the Earth as a globe that we on the surface cannot.

We're surrounded by a wall of ice. Look into Antarctica explorers (before the
1900's, well, Op High Jump should be on your list too but don't start with that
one). A few have calculated it to be over 70,000 miles. Bring on the GPS, got
that too and not enough time. Check military bases an notice how they don't go
passed a certain latitude. Also, look at the "division of the land," makes more
sense on a flat earth. Not supposed to pull from it but the Book of Enoch tells
of venturing out the "dome" and he describes a nothingness beyond. Also gives
description of what we're in and the mechanics of it.

The bible doesn't count in any way as scientific evidence, sorry. Jules Verne is more accurate, not to mention a better writer, if you're looking at fiction.

Ha. The only thing glaring is your utter persistence to prove the Bible wrong.
Rely on your logic, fine...just, at least, do your own research. Don't rely on
the knowledge given to you by those in power. They don't care about you (too
much fluoride in your water, hope you're filtering). Look, I understand it's a
lot to take in, to believe that you've been lied to all these years and what
about...truth hurts but hell is going to hurt worse.

Let's not even get started on the whole 'hell' thing. If you look at the origin in that book you love so much it refers to 'sheol' and 'gehenna' but not hell.
'Hell' is a later invention. Seeing how xtians stole so much from pagans, one more thing seems right. Hel refers to one of the afterlife destinations in Norse paganism, and isn't a place of suffering at all. But the stories, edited by a christian (Snorri) slanted it to appear as a dark place and the death goddess Hel as a dark ruler.
But that's all off topic.

One more that opened up my eyes to this (there are so many examples), is flight durations. If the "globe" is spinning at ~1100mph (at the equator) then how is it the same amount of time traveling east or west? Commercial planes go no faster than 500mph. Traveling east, you'd never make your destination. I'll pull from red bull again, if the earth was spinning how did he land so close to his take off point? There are more holes in your theory than you realize. Again, lean on your logic, fine but at least show some signs of intelligence with it. Then, when you realize your errors, come back, take the next step in your salvation. You're already here, "playing with fire" which is really just your own salvation.

Grass is greener. Don't take my word for it though, look for yourself.

Really? You're going to try and make this argument? I guess I should have expected it. Did I not mention the gravity thing before? Anyway:

At

most latitudes, the Earth rotates eastward at a much higher speed than a
typical
jet airplane flies. So a passenger jet traveling in the same
direction as the
Earth’s rotation should never reach its destination, right?
Yet somehow it is
possible to fly east from Vancouver, British Columbia to
Toronto, Ontario—a
distance of over 3000 km—in just five hours! In fact, in
the Northern
Hemisphere, planes actually tend to fly faster when they’re
travelling in the
same direction as the Earth’s rotation. To understand why,
you also need to
understand how gravity and the jet stream come into play. -
See more at:
http://www.explorecuriocity.org/Cont....Z7VnOh7C.dpuf

The thorough explanation can be found here.

This is what happens when amateurs come out to play with the veterans..

[James Hutchins]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Anyone rich enough can actually go into space. Anyone, rich or no, can look through a telescope and see these celestial bodies for themselves, of which earth is one.
.................

Anyone foolish enough (feel familiar?) can go to Hell. That is a fact, recorded in history.

I can look at a picture my kid drew of a tomato yet I cannot eat it or go into it.
To see the Earth, a person only needs to look down.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Anyone foolish enough (feel familiar?) can go to Hell. That is a fact, recorded in history.

Oh really? Please cite me an observable instance of this actually happening. And no, sorry, death doesn't count. For all you know when they died their consciousness may have been transported to Teletubby land. Although in terms of afterlife destinations, that would be pretty horrific if there were such a thing.... I find those Teletubby things infinitely disturbing..

I can look at a picture my kid drew of a tomato yet I cannot eat it or go into it.
To see the Earth, a person only needs to look down.

Yawn. So basically, being unable to refute actual facts as I've previously presented, you revert to insults and 'cuz I said so'.

[WickedWitch]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Oh really? Please cite me an observable instance of this actually happening. And no, sorry, death doesn't count. For all you know when they died their consciousness may have been transported to Teletubby land. Although in terms of afterlife destinations, that would be pretty horrific if there were such a thing.... I find those Teletubby things infinitely disturbing..


Yawn. So basically, being unable to refute actual facts as I've previously presented, you revert to insults and 'cuz I said so'.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU SO MANY GOOD REP POINTS FOR THIS BECAUSE IT IS AMAZING BUT I CAN'T!

[Didymus Much]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I WANT TO GIVE YOU SO MANY GOOD REP POINTS FOR THIS BECAUSE IT IS AMAZING BUT I CAN'T!

Huge type and purple all-caps is all good and everything, but you really need to use Comic Sans to get people to take you seriously.




























/sarcasm

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

I WANT TO GIVE YOU SO MANY GOOD REP POINTS FOR THIS BECAUSE IT IS AMAZING BUT I CAN'T!

Aww, thanks.

Next thing you know, these guys will start talking about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide.

[WickedWitch]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Huge type and purple all-caps is all good and everything, but you really need to use Comic Sans to get people to take you seriously.

GOOD POINT.


P.S.
THIS IS WHAT PURPLE LOOKS LIKE.

Aww, thanks.

Next thing you know, these guys will start talking about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide.

Dihydrogen monoxide can kill!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Anyone rich enough can actually go into space.

As BuddyB said "No one's been in space like you think."

Anyone, rich or no, can look through a telescope and see these celestial bodies for themselves, of which earth is one.

(i) Oh, so you're handing out telescopes to the poor now, are you? (ii) Looking through a telescope at the earth is very difficult unless you are in heaven (where you will have perfect eyesight and not need a telescope.)

Those references are ridiculous. One a video of yet another person trying to claim the moon landing is a hoax. This has been disproved repeatedly.

And the Bible has been read repeatedly, and that is true: Checkmate, witch.

Anyone with a telescope can see it in the sky, orbiting the earth due to that gravity thing.

(i) Where's my free telescope? Why do I need a telescope to see the sky? I can see the sun and that's over 500 miles away! (ii) Well, you say it is due to "gravity" - let's see your proof of how 'gravity' actually works...

We know that we can perceive a dimension that the ant on the balloon cannot.

No we don't.

We, outside of the ant, can clearly observe this phenomenon.

I challenge you to get inside of an ant... I seem to be losing your drift here.

Likewise those from space can see the Earth as a globe that we on the surface cannot.

You said we could see the earth as a celestial body with a telescope (one of your free ones). Now you say you have to be in heaven to see earth - you need your bumps feeling.

The bible doesn't count in any way as scientific evidence, sorry.

Bald statement - If I put my mnd to it I can say stupid things too!

Jules Verne is more accurate,

Jules Verne is dead so he's not being very accurate at the moment - being a Catlick, he's in Hell, so his mind is probably on other things.

not to mention a better writer, if you're looking at fiction.

Buddy wasn't: he was looking at the Bible.

Let's not even get started on the whole 'hell' thing. If you look at the origin in that book you love so much it refers to 'sheol' and 'gehenna' but not hell.

I took you more as the handmaiden of Satan rather than a fluffy-bunny Christian with your shiny apologetics: Hell's real enough. A spade should be called a spade.

'Hell' is a later invention.

This has nothing to do with the flatness of the earth. Please keep on topic!

This is what happens when amateurs come out to play with the veterans..

The word was that you were crushed to death by a particularly large broccoli stalk you were worshiping - I can't say I'm pleased to see you back, anyway, you've had your irrelevant say: you can get back to writing your messages of hatred for all things good and American to the liberal press.

SHOO!

[WickedWitch]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

Now you say you have to be in heaven to see earth - you need your bumps feeling.

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?! ARE YOU COMING ON TO HER?!?!

[Rachael Van Helsing]

Re: 3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT!

As BuddyB said "No one's been in space like you think." (i) Oh, so you're handing out telescopes to the poor now, are you? (ii) Looking through a telescope at the earth is very difficult unless you are in heaven (where you will have perfect eyesight and not need a telescope.)

In this case I was referring to looking at the other planets which revolve around the sun. As to people being in space, I've covered that in my other post, so please go back and re-read, I'm not overly fond of repeating myself.

And the Bible has been read repeatedly, and that is true: Checkmate, witch.

Um, no it isn't. I've given you examples of factual, observable phenomena, you're referring to a collection of bronze age stories later edited by a bunch of angry old Romans, going through further edits by even more angry old perverts along the way until you have your dear KJV that you love so much.
As I mentioned, Jules Verne has written FICTION in which actual observable phenomena is accurate (from Earth to the Moon). The bible, on the other hand, says that the Earth is flat, something conclusively disproved.
Don't you know how to play chess? Checkmate is when you beat the other person, not when you get your rear end handed to you.

(i) Where's my free telescope? Why do I need a telescope to see the sky? I can
see the sun and that's over 500 miles away! (ii) Well, you say it is due to
"gravity" - let's see your proof of how 'gravity' actually works...

As I said, this is covered in my previous post(s). Again, repeating myself, not cool! I do that enough in the office, thankyou.
You can get telescopes pretty cheap:

http://www.telescopes.com/

Check it out, surely there's something even those who keep popping out kids for social welfare and/or reality TV can afford!

No we don't. I challenge you to get inside of an ant... I seem to be losing your
drift here.You said we could see the earth as a celestial body with a telescope
(one of your free ones). Now you say you have to be in heaven to see earth - you
need your bumps feeling.

The bumps thing....what??
Also, I think you need to read carefully. I said you can see celestial bodies, the Earth being such a celestial body. I never claimed you can see earth as a globe from on the surface - in fact I explained decisively why you need to be outside of it to do so.
You're really grasping at straws here, buddy.

Bald statement - If I put my mnd to it I can say stupid things too! Jules Verne
is dead so he's not being very accurate at the moment - being a Catlick, he's in
Hell, so his mind is probably on other things.Buddy wasn't: he was looking at
the Bible.

Your point?
And I'm looking at an Excel spreadsheet, which contains more factual information than a bible ever will.
All hail Lord Miros Of Office.

I took you more as the handmaiden of Satan rather than a fluffy-bunny Christian with your shiny apologetics: Hell's real enough. A spade should be called a spade.

Don't ever call me that. That there is one horrific insult. I would sooner worship a steaming pile of turd than be a christian/any kind of abrahamic believer. In this topic I'm talking about science. Observable fact.

This has nothing to do with the flatness of the earth. Please keep on topic!

I believe I already apologized for going OT.

The word was that you were crushed to death by a particularly large broccoli stalk you were worshiping - I can't say I'm pleased to see you back, anyway, you've had your irrelevant say: you can get back to writing your messages of hatred for all things good and American to the liberal press.
SHOO!

I'm on a break, I'll get back to my writings for the liberal press shortly.