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  • Bobby-Joe
    Landover Security Superviser
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    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 18405

    #1

    TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

    Brethren,

    For those of you how have never heard of it TAG, or Transcendental Argument for God is it one thing that will make any atheist quake in fear in his Birkenstocks. It is a gift Jesus gave us to drive the soulless secular humanist from the room like a vampire from garlic (or in an atheist case, repulse them like red meat). It very existence is suppressed by the scientific-educational humanist conspiracy

    The argument is this;

    Atheist reason is contradictory, they argue logical reason indicates there is no God. However this is contradictory because without God there can be no logic.

    Basically with this TAG Jesus tells us because the atheist can prove God does not exist with a constituent set of logical laws it proves God does exist and specifically proves the God of the Bible. If the universe was the naturalistic creation of pure chance as the atheists maintain then it goes to follow the rules of the universe would be random and arbitrary, but they are not. The laws of universe are consistent and logical. The only way you can have the benevolent, consistent and above all logical universe we observe is if it was created by the benevolent, consistent and logical God as He describes Himself in Bible.

    If you are having problems following this Divine Revelation™ it is, like any of Gods TRUTHS™ complex try this

    1. Reasoning involves using the laws of logic.
    2. Laws of logic are God's standard for thinking.
    3. The atheist's view cannot be rational because he uses things (laws of logic) that cannot exist according to his profession.


    You see an atheist can not account for Laws of Logic as developed by such classic Christian thinkers as Plato and Aristotle in their world view. Since The Laws of Logic are abstract and not made off matter. Logic is not something you can measure or hit someone in the head with. The materialistic world view by definition requires everything has to be made of or caused by matter. Logic isn't like time or gravity, logic is insubstantial without any explanation.

    If the universe was pure materialistic event we would expect random chaos and contradiction; animals to start talking, plants to burst into flames with out burning, masses of water to appear and drown the world without explain and disappear just as abruptly. The sun would stand still in the sky, snakes would talk, dust would turn into men and bread loves to turn into fishes. People would spontaneously come back to life after being dying, men would fly off into the heavens and women would turn into pillars of salt. Instead none of this catalog of absurdities happens showing why God has to be creator of this world.

    YIC,
    BJ Tabor

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  • cavinaugh17
    Foul Sinner on Moderation
    • Aug 2007
    • 11

    #2
    Re: TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

    Last edited by Jeb Stuart Thurmond; 04-16-2008, 03:46 PM.

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    • Bobby-Joe
      Landover Security Superviser
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      • Sep 2006
      • 18405

      #3
      Re: TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

      Originally posted by cavinaugh17 View Post
      Sister Jack-lyn seems to have a clear and balanced view of this issue, in her limited female way. Thank you for sharing this.

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      • Jonesy
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        • Apr 2008
        • 100

        #4
        Re: TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

        If theres no God then he could not have made logic, therefore logic is naturally occuring like irony or sarcasm.
        Luke 14:26-These Pigs are for Science, SCIENCE!

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        • Ezekiel Bathfire
          Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
          Christ's Rottweiler
           
          • Jan 2008
          • 22893

          #5
          Re: TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

          Originally posted by Jerry Jones View Post
          If theres no God then he could not have made logic, therefore logic is naturally occurring like irony or sarcasm.
          When it says God made the earth and all upon it and when it said He made Man in His own image, what makes you think He left out logic? Are you trying to make God sound as if He's a forgetful old man? This is blasphemy!
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          Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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          • Nobar King
            Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
            Christ's Guardian
            True Christian™
            • Sep 2007
            • 23748

            #6
            Re: TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

            Honestly, I thought you meant this:
            May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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            • Jonesy
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              • Apr 2008
              • 100

              #7
              Re: TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

              No what I am saying is that because there is not God that as the human brain evolved, it gain logic and God has nothing to do with it.
              Luke 14:26-These Pigs are for Science, SCIENCE!

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              • Bobby-Joe
                Landover Security Superviser
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                True Christian™
                • Sep 2006
                • 18405

                #8
                Re: TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

                Originally posted by Jerry Jones View Post
                If theres no God then he could not have made logic, therefore logic is naturally occuring like irony or sarcasm.
                No, the arguement is since logic has no naturalistic cause which only leaves a supernatural cause. The only supernatural cause we know of that is logical is God.

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                • Jonesy
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                  • Apr 2008
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                  #9
                  Re: TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

                  Irony has no naturalistic cause, sacasm has no naturalistic cause. loads of things have no naturalistic cause, you know what they were caused by EVOLUTION of the human brain and human emotions.
                  Luke 14:26-These Pigs are for Science, SCIENCE!

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                  • Bobby-Joe
                    Landover Security Superviser
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                    • Sep 2006
                    • 18405

                    #10
                    Re: TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

                    Originally posted by Jerry Jones View Post
                    Irony has no naturalistic cause, sacasm has no naturalistic cause. loads of things have no naturalistic cause, you know what they were caused by EVOLUTION of the human brain and human emotions.
                    Show me irony and sarcasm in nature so we might evolve them like your magical monkey theory claims.

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                    • Jonesy
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                      • Apr 2008
                      • 100

                      #11
                      Re: TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

                      I didn't say they were from nature i said that as we evolved to higher lifeforms naturally we developed emotions and thoughts of sarcasm and irony. I know you don't believe in evolution but trust me its alot more reasonable than God making the world and everything on it in 6 days.
                      Luke 14:26-These Pigs are for Science, SCIENCE!

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                      • Bobby-Joe
                        Landover Security Superviser
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                        • Sep 2006
                        • 18405

                        #12
                        Re: TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

                        Originally posted by Jerry Jones View Post
                        I didn't say they were from nature i said that as we evolved to higher lifeforms naturally we developed emotions and thoughts of sarcasm and irony. I know you don't believe in evolution but trust me its alot more reasonable than God making the world and everything on it in 6 days.
                        Again I will repeat question: what animal indulges in sarcasm or irony? Elephants? Dolphins? Apes?

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                        • Jonesy
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                          • Apr 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

                          Ok ill explain again, we are different to animals because we are self aware. When we evolved from lower forms of life which was completely naturally, as every living thing evolves to better suit there lifestyles, we developed very complecated feelings and thoughts, some of those thoughts including sarcasm, irony and logic.
                          Luke 14:26-These Pigs are for Science, SCIENCE!

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                          • Bobby-Joe
                            Landover Security Superviser
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                            • Sep 2006
                            • 18405

                            #14
                            Re: TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

                            Originally posted by Jerry Jones View Post
                            Ok ill explain again, we are different to animals because we are self aware. When we evolved from lower forms of life which was completely naturally, as every living thing evolves to better suit there lifestyles, we developed very complecated feelings and thoughts, some of those thoughts including sarcasm, irony and logic.
                            I've read that secular scientists have concluded that apes, dolphins and elephants are self aware. Now according to Darwinist thought shouldn't they also indulge in irony, sarcasm and logic?

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                            • Jonesy
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                              • Apr 2008
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                              #15
                              Re: TAG; Jesus uses it to kill secularist DEAD!

                              Sure their self aware to a point but not to the point that they can feel emotions and question everything around them like humans do and think of logic sarcasm and irony.
                              Luke 14:26-These Pigs are for Science, SCIENCE!

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