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  • Satanisoverrated
    Unsaved trash
    • Sep 2010
    • 3

    #1

    I got my eyes open!

    The difference between evolution and Creationism is that evolution is real and Creationism is not real. Creationism is based on the Bible that says that God created the world in 6 days about 10,000 years ago. Clearly the world was not created in 6 days about 10,000 years ago, so therefore the Bible is just plain wrong. If the world were merely 10,000 years old then how do you explain the dinosaurs that are millions of years old? We've discovered life fossils that date back billions of years. Even the skeletons of modern humans date back before the time of Adam and Eve.

    If we were to believe the Bible, then we would have to believe the Earth was created before the stars, which is the wrong order. If the stars were created 10,000 years ago, we wouldn't be able to see stars that are more than 10,000 light years away. That's because if a star was further away than 10,000 light years, the light from that star wouldn't have got here yet. Our galaxy alone is about 100,000 light years across. If the Bible were true, we wouldn't be able to see but 1/10th the way across our own galaxy. We surely wouldn't be able to see other galaxies or galactic clusters or know that the universe is expanding.

    Our modern technology has proved the Bible wrong. That means that if there is a God, he didn't write the Bible and the Bible is not his word. If the Bible were the word of God and the Bible is wrong, then God is wrong. And if God can't be wrong, then the Bible, which is wrong, can't be the word of God.

    Men who lived thousands of years ago wrote the Bible. The authors had limited knowledge of the nature of the universe and wrote the Bible based on what they believed at the time. They didn't know the Earth was round and that it orbited the Sun, which is a star among billions of stars in the galaxy, which is but one galaxy in billions of galaxies that have existed for billions of years. To them, the world was flat. There was up and there was down and God lived in the sky. They didn't know the world was round and there was no such thing as "up". They didn't know that the sky was a thin layer of gas that surrounds the surface of this planet. We have been to the sky and we have been above the sky and God isn't living there.
  • Phebe Carlyle
    GALS 4 GOD Guidance Counseler
    Expert at baking, sewing, and rebuking unsaved scum
    True Christian™
    • May 2010
    • 2604

    #2
    Re: I got my eyes open!

    Please cite scripture to back up your claims.

    YIC

    Mrs Phebe Dewitt.




    There's Jesus here,
    Just see what He offers me....
    Down here my sins forgiven,
    Up there a home in heaven
    Praise God, That's the way for me!!

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    • Johannes Kirkeholm
      True Christian™
      True Christian™
      • Oct 2010
      • 395

      #3
      Re: I got my eyes open!

      Originally posted by Satanisoverrated View Post
      The difference between evolution and Creationism is that evolution is real and Creationism is not real. Creationism is based on the Bible that says that God created the world in 6 days about 10,000 years ago. Clearly the world was not created in 6 days about 10,000 years ago, so therefore the Bible is just plain wrong. If the world were merely 10,000 years old then how do you explain the dinosaurs that are millions of years old? We've discovered life fossils that date back billions of years. Even the skeletons of modern humans date back before the time of Adam and Eve.

      If we were to believe the Bible, then we would have to believe the Earth was created before the stars, which is the wrong order. If the stars were created 10,000 years ago, we wouldn't be able to see stars that are more than 10,000 light years away. That's because if a star was further away than 10,000 light years, the light from that star wouldn't have got here yet. Our galaxy alone is about 100,000 light years across. If the Bible were true, we wouldn't be able to see but 1/10th the way across our own galaxy. We surely wouldn't be able to see other galaxies or galactic clusters or know that the universe is expanding.

      Our modern technology has proved the Bible wrong. That means that if there is a God, he didn't write the Bible and the Bible is not his word. If the Bible were the word of God and the Bible is wrong, then God is wrong. And if God can't be wrong, then the Bible, which is wrong, can't be the word of God.

      Men who lived thousands of years ago wrote the Bible. The authors had limited knowledge of the nature of the universe and wrote the Bible based on what they believed at the time. They didn't know the Earth was round and that it orbited the Sun, which is a star among billions of stars in the galaxy, which is but one galaxy in billions of galaxies that have existed for billions of years. To them, the world was flat. There was up and there was down and God lived in the sky. They didn't know the world was round and there was no such thing as "up". They didn't know that the sky was a thin layer of gas that surrounds the surface of this planet. We have been to the sky and we have been above the sky and God isn't living there.
      Creationism vs. evolution is like God vs. science. And who is more powerful? God or a scientist? A scientist would never be able to make the following true:

      3+3=12

      But God who is omnipotent is able to do so. So who is the smartest one? Is it the one who is able to add 3 and 3 and get 12 or the scientist who isn't able to do it? The answer is obvious, God is smarter.

      Evolution is a hypothesis that has not been proven. Who knows best what happened? God, who created the World and described how he did it in the KJV, or the scientist who makes a guess based on some old bones? In fact paleontologists are like necromancers and therefore they are wicked:

      Deuteronomy 18:10-11
      There shall not be found among you any one ... that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

      And only the stupid believe the Words of The Wicked:

      Proverbs 2:12
      Wisdom will save you from the ways of wicked men, from men whose words are perverse

      It has now been established that people who believe in evolution are stupid. This is to many good Christians an obvious fact because after all nobody has a grandfather who is a monkey. Also, if Darwin was so good at evolution, why did he die?

      You must always keep in mind that a lot of the 'proof' for evolution are infact manufactured fossils that satanic scientists have spread upon the earth.
      To the atheists:

      To the false christians:

      Feel like pissing off God? Perhaps this will change your mind:

      Hosea 13:16
      Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

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      • MitzaLizalor
        Completely CRAZY for the Lord
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2010
        • 14499

        #4
        Re: I got my eyes open!

        Originally posted by Satanisoverrated

        Men who lived thousands of years ago wrote the Bible..
        Hang on a minute .. .. ? ? weren't you saying that that would be "Men who lived hundreds of millions years ago" wrote The Bible ..

        JOHN 5:31-47
        31 If I beare witnesse of my selfe, my witnesse is not true.
        32 There is another that beareth witnesse of me, & I know that the witnesse which he witnesseth of me, is true.
        33 Ye sent vnto Iohn, and he bare witnesse vnto the trueth.
        34 But I receiue not testimonie from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saued.
        35 He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to reioyce in his light.
        36 But I haue greater witnesse then that of Iohn: for the workes which the Father hath giuen me to finish, the same workes that I doe, beare witnesse of mee, that the Father hath sent me.
        37 And the Father himselfe which hath sent me, hath borne witnesse of me. Ye haue neither heard his voyce at any time, nor seene his shape.
        38 And ye haue not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye beleeue not.
        39 Search the Scriptures, for in them ye thinke ye haue eternall life, and they are they which testifie of me.
        40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might haue life.
        41 I receiue not honour from men.
        42 But I know you, that ye haue not the loue of God in you.
        43 I am come in my Fathers name, and ye receiue me not: if another shall come in his owne Name, him ye will receiue.
        44 How can ye beleeue, which receiue honour one of another, & seeke not the honour that commeth from God onely?
        45 Doe not thinke that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, euen Moses, in whom ye trust?
        46 For had ye beleeued Moses, ye would haue beleeued me: for he wrote of me.
        47 But if ye beleeue not his writings, how shall ye beleeue my words? ©1611

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        • Phebe Carlyle
          GALS 4 GOD Guidance Counseler
          Expert at baking, sewing, and rebuking unsaved scum
          True Christian™
          • May 2010
          • 2604

          #5
          Re: I got my eyes open!

          Mr Kirlholm,

          Praise Jesus!!

          You make sound and valid points.

          As a woman, I obviously cannot even contemplate God's might, but I will say that even I can make 3+1+1+1+3=1. Science of course thinks this is a crazy notion but I know it's true as with God ALL is possible.

          3 cups of flour

          1 Egg

          1 pinch of salt

          1 cup of milk

          3 Tablespoons of sugar.

          =

          1 great pie crust to fill for the Church bake sale!

          YIC

          Mrs Phebe Dewitt.




          There's Jesus here,
          Just see what He offers me....
          Down here my sins forgiven,
          Up there a home in heaven
          Praise God, That's the way for me!!

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          • MitzaLizalor
            Completely CRAZY for the Lord
            True Christian™
            • Sep 2010
            • 14499

            #6
            Re: I got my eyes open!

            Originally posted by Mrs. Phebe Dewitt View Post
            Mr Kirlholm,

            Praise Jesus!!

            You make sound and valid points.

            As a woman, I obviously cannot even contemplate God's might, but I will say that even I can make 3+1+1+1+3=1. Science of course thinks this is a crazy notion but I know it's true as with God ALL is possible.

            3 cups of flour

            1 Egg

            1 pinch of salt

            1 cup of milk

            3 Tablespoons of sugar.

            =

            1 great pie crust to fill for the Church bake sale!

            YIC

            Mrs Phebe Dewitt.
            I will try that right now! I have to meet some friends tomorrow, and that is the perfect ice breaker. Thank you Mrs. Dewit, and praise Him for directing your words. (It is a particularly sensitive meeting).

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            • Lisa H
              Proud to be Blonde, Beautiful, and Baptist
              True Christian™
              • Jun 2010
              • 5070

              #7
              Re: I got my eyes open!

              What a marvelous fairytale you have written. I am sure children will find it amusing. I hope you have not plagiarized it.
              Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
              Proverbs 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
              Ezekiel 16:14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
              Proverbs 6:25 Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
              Genesis 24:16 And the damsel was very fair to look upon, a virgin, neither had any man known her: and she went down to the well, and filled her pitcher, and came up.
              Song of Solomon 1:15 Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast doves' eyes.

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              • Rev. M. Rodimer
                Honorary True Christian™
                Forum Member
                • May 2008
                • 13996

                #8
                Re: I got my eyes open!

                Originally posted by Lisa H View Post
                What a marvelous fairytale you have written. I am sure children will find it amusing. I hope you have not plagiarized it.
                Yes, that would only prove that atheists have no morals because they lack God.

                After all, plagiarism is stealing.

                Here's hoping it wasn't stolen from somewhere else.
                Bible boring? Nonsense!
                Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                • RomanK
                  Unsaved trash, rabid godmocker
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 189

                  #9
                  Re: I got my eyes open!

                  Originally posted by Satanisoverrated View Post
                  The difference between evolution and Creationism is that evolution is real and Creationism is not real. Creationism is based on the Bible that says that God created the world in 6 days about 10,000 years ago. Clearly the world was not created in 6 days about 10,000 years ago, so therefore the Bible is just plain wrong. If the world were merely 10,000 years old then how do you explain the dinosaurs that are millions of years old? We've discovered life fossils that date back billions of years. Even the skeletons of modern humans date back before the time of Adam and Eve.

                  If we were to believe the Bible, then we would have to believe the Earth was created before the stars, which is the wrong order. If the stars were created 10,000 years ago, we wouldn't be able to see stars that are more than 10,000 light years away. That's because if a star was further away than 10,000 light years, the light from that star wouldn't have got here yet. Our galaxy alone is about 100,000 light years across. If the Bible were true, we wouldn't be able to see but 1/10th the way across our own galaxy. We surely wouldn't be able to see other galaxies or galactic clusters or know that the universe is expanding.

                  Our modern technology has proved the Bible wrong. That means that if there is a God, he didn't write the Bible and the Bible is not his word. If the Bible were the word of God and the Bible is wrong, then God is wrong. And if God can't be wrong, then the Bible, which is wrong, can't be the word of God.

                  Men who lived thousands of years ago wrote the Bible. The authors had limited knowledge of the nature of the universe and wrote the Bible based on what they believed at the time. They didn't know the Earth was round and that it orbited the Sun, which is a star among billions of stars in the galaxy, which is but one galaxy in billions of galaxies that have existed for billions of years. To them, the world was flat. There was up and there was down and God lived in the sky. They didn't know the world was round and there was no such thing as "up". They didn't know that the sky was a thin layer of gas that surrounds the surface of this planet. We have been to the sky and we have been above the sky and God isn't living there.
                  Amazing how they say quote scripture with that when the foundation of everything you said has to do with reality.

                  The father of lies, satan. Is he the father of lies becasue he exposes them or becasue, you believe them?
                  Lies are just as good as truth is everyone believes them.

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                  • RomanK
                    Unsaved trash, rabid godmocker
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 189

                    #10
                    Re: I got my eyes open!

                    Oh yeah, I read where a conjurer of the dead is sorcerer, Duet i think. Kind of Odd how the old testament thinks one who does such things is evil yet I recall Jesus raising lazerus from the grave, what an evil spirit he must have been to sonsort with the dead. Nice double standard!
                    Lies are just as good as truth is everyone believes them.

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                    • Albasha
                      Unsaved trash
                      Under Investigation
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 22

                      #11
                      Re: I got my eyes open!

                      Originally posted by Mrs. Phebe Dewitt View Post
                      Please cite scripture to back up your claims.

                      YIC

                      Mrs Phebe Dewitt.
                      A wise man once told me of the grea prophets. I too have listened to ther message

                      REMOVED SATANIC LINKS

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                      • Ezekiel Bathfire
                        Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
                        Christ's Rottweiler
                         
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 22895

                        #12
                        Re: I got my eyes open!

                        Originally posted by RomanK View Post
                        Oh yeah, I read where a conjurer of the dead is sorcerer, [...]yet I recall Jesus raising lazerus from the grave, what an evil spirit he must have been to consort with the dead. Nice double standard!
                        A necromancer, i.e. a conjurer of the dead, attempts to have the dead speak; he does NOT attempt to make them come alive. Jesus on the other hand shows us in Lazarus that He has conquered death.
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                        • MitzaLizalor
                          Completely CRAZY for the Lord
                          True Christian™
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 14499

                          #13
                          Re: I got my eyes open!

                          Originally posted by RomanK View Post
                          Oh yeah, I read where a conjurer of the dead is sorcerer, Duet i think. Kind of Odd how the old testament thinks one who does such things is evil yet I recall Jesus raising lazerus from the grave, what an evil spirit he must have been to sonsort with the dead. Nice double standard!
                          Lazarus was raised in the flesh John 11:44 and restored to life.

                          Necromancers do not deal in life. They deal in death. King Saul employed the services of one such, but needed her to articulate what she saw.
                          I Samuel 28:13 To achieve that the witch herself was inadequate, and
                          Saul knew that when he ordered her I Samuel 28:7
                          God had already described the full horror of what happens in that environment: Leviticus 19:31 but Saul disregarded that. What happened as a result? I Samuel 28:20
                          That this was a result of his disobedience is confirmed by Isaiah, years later!

                          ISAIAH 8
                          15 And many among them shall stumble and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.
                          16 Binde vp the Testimonie, seale the Law among my disciples.
                          17 And I wil wait vpon the Lord that hideth his face from the house of Iacob, and I will looke for him.
                          18 Behold, I, and the children whom the Lord hath giuen me, are for signes, and for wonders in Israel: from the Lord of hostes, which dwelleth in mount Zion.
                          19 And when they shall say vnto you; Seeke vnto them that haue familiar spirits, and vnto wizards that peepe and that mutter: should not a people seeke vnto their God? for the liuing, to the dead?
                          20 To the Law and to the Testimonie: if they speake not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
                          21 And they shall passe through it, hardly bestead and hungry: and it shall come to passe, that when they shall be hungry, they shall fret themselues, and curse their King, and their God, and looke vpward.
                          22 And they shall looke vnto the earth: and behold trouble and darkenesse, dimnesse of anguish; and they shall be driuen to darkenesse.

                          Lazarus was not defiled because Lazarus was not simulated by an unclean spirit. People who seek out unclean spirits seek out falsehood. This is what happens next: Leviticus 20:6. Lazarus was not "cut off" he was restored. He was restored because he was not involved with unclean spirits. That is why your suggestion indicates psychosis. The pastors will be able to advise you further, in this matter and I would advise an urgent appointment.

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                          • ExGay Alex
                            Helping boys become upright model citizens
                            True Christian™
                            • May 2008
                            • 1295

                            #14
                            Re: I got my eyes open!

                            Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
                            Yes, that would only prove that atheists have no morals because they lack God.

                            After all, plagiarism is stealing.
                            Good Reverend, if he didn't plagiarize it from there, then maybe he stole it from HERE. Either way, he didn't do his own work.
                            "Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).

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                            • Brother Temperance
                              Senior Usher
                              True Christian™ missionary to the Unsaved Kingdom
                              A very nice young man
                              True Christian™
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 15621

                              #15
                              Re: I got my eyes open!

                              Originally posted by RomanK View Post
                              Oh yeah, I read where a conjurer of the dead is sorcerer, Duet i think. Kind of Odd how the old testament thinks one who does such things is evil yet I recall Jesus raising lazerus from the grave, what an evil spirit he must have been to sonsort with the dead. Nice double standard!
                              I see no contradiction there. That's like trying to claim that there's a contradiction between God telling us not to kill and the numerous occasions where He either kills people Himself or tells others to do so. I suppose by your secular logic, that's a "double" "standard" as well?
                              O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



                              God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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