A supposed case of "immaculate birth" within Komodo dragons.

[Eugene Hackwith]

I believe this to be a conspiracy by the liberal media to undermine Christianity! This article has the headline "Apparently Immaculate Komodos Hatched", as if these dragons were born like Christ. They are calling this a case of parthenogenesis; in this case, they are speculating that the dragon eggs didn't need to be fertilized by males to hatch. This is another one of science's ways to undermine the natural order of things...specifically, that it takes a male and a female to make babies.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080207/ap_on_fe_st/odd_komodo_dragons

An excerpt from the article:
"We never had a male dragon at the zoo. There were no tramps that came wandering through," said Nate Nelson, the zoo's curator of amphibians, reptiles and fishes.

Sure thing, buddy, these eggs just fertilized themselves.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: A supposed case of "immaculate birth" within Komodo dragons.

So, are they claiming that jap dragons are mary worshipers?

I swear these secular scientists just pull this stuff right out of their ass. Praise Jesus, I can't wait to see them try and explain themselves to Christ on Judgement Day.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: A supposed case of "immaculate birth" within Komodo dragons.

I'll tell you were the daddy is for those two lizards; the Darwinist zookeepers. They all atheist so they cast some satanic spell on the lizard and fornicated with it. Now we have some lizard human hybrid running around the Darwnists are going to claim proves evolution.

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: A supposed case of "immaculate birth" within Komodo dragons.

This is a mighty portent from God. These beasts, these dragons, may be the Earthly incarnations of the Devil himself.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Revelation 12:9

The Devil fornicates with himself, and -- being ambisextrous -- procreates unilaterally. He inhabits these Komodo dragons. Their tails twitch, their scaly eyelids droop, their sides heave...God alone know what foul internal ecstasies these dragons experience in the throes of self-fornication.

And they bring forth young, and they are an ABOMINATION!

That science embraces and celebrates these gender-depraved demons is a sign to good Christians and true that science is allied with the Devil.

Thank you, Brother Hackwith, for bringing this sign and portent before the congregation of Landover. In it is revealed a mighty teaching.

~~ OEJ

[Sacha-DG]

Re: A supposed case of "immaculate birth" within Komodo dragons.

I find it highly laughable that you all ridicule this, when this is one of the main beliefs that your religion is founded upon. Now you know how non-Christians feel towards your beliefs

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: A supposed case of "immaculate birth" within Komodo dragons.

I find it highly laughable that you all ridicule this, when this is one of the main beliefs that your religion is founded upon. Now you know how non-Christians feel towards your beliefs

Once again, you confuse us with the mary worshipers.

Can you quote for me the scriptures in the Holy Bible that claim that Mary remained a virgin after giving birth? Or do you believe that the Bible says Mary conceived the baby Jesus without any help from God?

[Sacha-DG]

Re: A supposed case of "immaculate birth" within Komodo dragons.

Once again, you confuse us with the mary worshipers.

Can you quote for me the scriptures in the Holy Bible that claim that Mary remained a virgin after giving birth? Or do you believe that the Bible says Mary conceived the baby Jesus without any help from God?

So Mary was not a virgin, but Jesus was not conceived of any human?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: A supposed case of "immaculate birth" within Komodo dragons.

So Mary was not a virgin, but Jesus was not conceived of any human?

Scripture explains this cleary;

Luke 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

You see, the Holy Spirit came upon Mary but never entered her.

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: A supposed case of "immaculate birth" within Komodo dragons.

Pastor Zeke is a mighty worker for the Lord, but he has many threads in the fire -- so to speak -- so I will attempt a partial answer out of my lesser knowledge of the Spirit.

First, the Lord God is not like the fake gods of the Greeks, who popped off a whole cartload of half-human half-immortal hybrids.

Jesus was God.You should not imagine a crowd of God's glowing haloed spermatozoa thrashing their way upstream into Mary's intimate plumbing to find an all-too-human egg to fertilize.

Instead, God (an immutable, ineffable, indefagitible supernatural Being) manifested Himself in earthly form as a fetus in Mary's womb. BLAMMO! Mary was preggers without any of the customary biological preliminaries, and wasn't Joseph surprised! Even her hyrax was still intact.

Now, Komodo dragons are sure as heck not being knocked up with a holy manifestation of God. These cold-blooded beasts grow 9 feet (3 meters) long, eat whatever meat they can catch or scavenge, and have breath that would gag a musk ox (see Komodo dragon fact #3) and probably even nauseate a hardened tuna-licker like Hillary Clinton.

These are NOT images of God on Earth, that's what I'm trying to say.

I suspect they are mutant offspring of the Devil, and that's why the perverted females can throw a litter without benefit of a male. God had Noah put all the animals on the Ark to save 'em from drowning, but I kind of think that the Komodo dragons made their own survival pact with another supernatural being...and God let it stand but made them hideous and foul as a reminder of their satanic nature.

Just a guess.

~~ OEJ

Postpartum scriptum: Oops, Brother Bobby-Joe, you posted while I was licking mayonnaise off my keyboard and composing the above drivel. Sorry.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: A supposed case of "immaculate birth" within Komodo dragons.

I'll tell you were the daddy is for those two lizards; the Darwinist zookeepers. They all atheist so they cast some satanic spell on the lizard and fornicated with it. Now we have some lizard human hybrid running around the Darwnists are going to claim proves evolution.

No doubt, if the Demonrats win the Presidency, they will divert billions of dollars of taxpayer's money away from the War on Islam to fund the impregnation of Komodo Dragons. And all in the name of political correctness.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: A supposed case of "immaculate birth" within Komodo dragons.

So Mary was not a virgin, but Jesus was not conceived of any human?

The Immaculate Deception of Mary which the Catholic Church teaches is actually the false doctrine IMMACULATE CONCEPTION OF MARY; but I renamed it to the "Immaculate Deception," because that is exactly what it is. There is NO bigger lie today than the heresy that Mary was without sin.

Read what the Catholic's teach for yourself...

The Immaculate Conception means that Mary, whose conception was brought about the normal way, was conceived without original sin or its stain—that’s what "immaculate" means: without stain. The essence of original sin consists in the deprivation of sanctifying grace, and its stain is a corrupt nature. Mary was preserved from these defects by God’s grace; from the first instant of her existence she was in the state of sanctifying grace and was free from the corrupt nature original sin brings...

Since this term is in the perfect tense, it indicates that Mary was graced in the past but with continuing effects in the present. So, the grace Mary enjoyed was not a result of the angel’s visit. In fact, Catholics hold, it extended over the whole of her life, from conception onward. She was in a state of sanctifying grace from the first moment of her existence. [emphasis added]

SOURCE: http://www.catholic.com/library/Imma..._and_Assum.asp

Only a fool would believe that Mary was sinless in lieu of Romans 5:12... "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned." Of course, the Catholics, in an attempt to cover up one lie, had to fabricate another lie--the Assumption of Mary. If Mary never sinned, then how could she die, because the Bible says the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23). So Catholics manufactured another heresy which claims that Mary was bodily "assumed" into Heaven and never saw death. This reminds me of a little child who is telling one whopping lie after another to weasel his way around the truth. Why don't Catholics just admit the truth that Catholicism is of the Devil!

According to WIKIPEDIA.COM...

The Immaculate Conception is, according to Roman Catholic dogma, the conception of Mary, the mother of Jesus without any stain of original sin, in her mother's womb: the dogma thus says that, from the first moment of her existence, she was preserved by God from the lack of sanctifying grace that afflicts mankind, and that she was instead filled with divine grace. It is further believed that she lived a life completely free from sin. [emphasis added on last sentence]

SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immaculate_Conception

Lies! Lies! and more lies! Jesus' mother was a dirty, rotten, sinner just like Adolf Hitler or any other sinner. James 2:10 states, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." I don't care if you've only committed a small handful of sins in your life, you are as guilty IN THE EYES OF GOD as a mass-murdering criminal. Committing even one sin is enough to bring a person under the condemnation of God's Law; thus, sentencing them to eternal Hellfire. So the question is... did Jesus' mother ever sin one time? According to the Bible she did. Catholics pervert the Scriptures, claiming that Romans 3:23 doesn't apply to Mary, when it states... "For ALL have sinned." What part of ALL don't Catholics understand? We know Jesus never sinned because the Bible tells us so (2nd Corinthians 5:21; Hebrews 4:15). There is nothing mentioned in the Scriptures about Mary being sinless, without any corruption, or assumed into Heaven.


Luke 1:28 Does Not Support the Catholic Heresy of Immaculate Conception

According to Catholic.com...

When discussing the Immaculate Conception, an implicit reference may be found in the angel’s greeting to Mary. The angel Gabriel said, "Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you" (Luke 1:28). The phrase "full of grace" is a translation of the Greek word kecharitomene. It therefore expresses a characteristic quality of Mary.

SOURCE: http://www.catholic.com/library/Imma..._and_Assum.asp

A literal translation of the TEXTUS RECEPTUS Greek in Luke 1:28 reads, "And entering, the angel said to her, Hail, one having received grace! The Lord is with you. You are blessed among women!" (SOURCE: THE INTERLINEAR BIBLE, Jay P. Green, Sr.; Sovereign Grace Publishers, ISBN: 1-878442-81-3). Luke 1:28 in the King James Bible reads, "And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women." The Greek word for "favoured" is charitoo, meaning, "to be highly favoured, make accepted." The King James Bible is 100% correct. The term "FULL OF GRACE," which Catholics have idolized in their Rosary recitals, is not a Biblical term concerning Mary. The original Greek NEVER says Mary was "FULL" of grace; rather, it says that Mary received grace from God, just as every believer is entitled to by the precious blood of Jesus (Hebrews 4:16).

Luke 1:28 in NO way gives credence, or implies, that Mary was born without a sin-nature or that she lived a sinless life. For Roman Catholics to attempt to justify such a far-fetched and unbiblical doctrine on mere speculation is the height of unscholarly rubbish. The ONLY mention of the phrase "full of grace" is reserved for Jesus Christ in the Scriptures, in John 1:14... "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." Mary was never full of grace; but rather, she was the blessed recipient of God's grace, as is every born again believer. Catholics have perverted the truth once again. So the next time you hear a Catholic saying that Mary was "full of grace," you know they're full of something else.


The Bible needs no interpretation. God said what He meant, and meant what He said! The doctrine of the Immaculate Conception of Mary is an immaculate DECEPTION!

[Father Thomas Martin]

Re: A supposed case of "immaculate birth" within Komodo dragons.

So, are they claiming that jap dragons are mary worshipers?

Why do you have no respect for Jesus' mother? (You could at least capitalize her name like you do a traditional human being's)

I swear these secular scientists just pull this stuff right out of their a**. Praise Jesus, I can't wait to see them try and explain themselves to Christ on Judgement Day.

Will rank right alongside your attempts to explain your disregard for His mother and the Sacrament of His Body, Blood, Soul, & Divinity!

(BTW, in accordance with your "decency" policies, I've edited the vulgarity)

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: A supposed case of "immaculate birth" within Komodo dragons.

(BTW, in accordance with your "decency" policies, I've edited the vulgarity)

Joh:12:14: And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,
Joh:12:15: Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.

Something else you want to edit? Or was it just something on your mind?

[Roberta]

Re: A supposed case of "immaculate birth" within Komodo dragons.

Have any of you ever seen a komodo dragon?