[Adam Fag]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

He thinks the Bible is full of stuff about spaceships. You just need a great mind like his to be able to see it.
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There's not a lot but there is some.

Ezekiel 1:5-9 >> link
Ezekiel 1:16 "the wheels and their work" He's quite clear that these were made things, just not known things
Ezekiel 1:19,21 "When those went, these went, and when those stood, these stood" Now we'd say, "Yo dude an' they flew those things, like woooo0oooosh" a bit out of my age group there but that's how they talk these days "Cooooooooooool"
Ezekiel 1:22 >> link
Ezekiel 1:24 >> link

And so on.

Note also the wing tilt on this pod >> link it's a mock up but you can see what I mean here. Hope that helps, but in fact I'm here to see what you think. The words are plain, we don't need to make things up.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

Adam. I'm not being unfriendly here but seriously, you are believing in some way out stuff. Talking donkeys? Yep, it explicitly stated God made one talk. Space aliens? Not so clear.

Anyway this thread is not about whether woo woo flying saucers are what is meant by angels.
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[Lady Effect]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

Ezekiel 1:5-9 . And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.

The words are plain, we don't need to make things up.

Okay, then, stop making things up and finally show us a man-shaped spaceship! Or do you think Ezekiel had no idea how a man looked like?
Do we look like a spaceship? No. Or an airplane? No!

There you go.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

now don't come to me saing that I'm an Atheist, I'll tell you right now, I'm an Agnostic, do you know what that is? It means I dont necessarily believe in GOD, although I believe a little, and also the funny thing about being an Agnostic is that I need proof to believe in something,

All I see is that you don't know what "atheist" and "agnostic" mean. You don't even know that as neither is a concrete philosophy, neither is a proper noun and thus should not be capitalized.

Let me walk you through the accepted definitions:

A "gnostic" is someone who believes we can/do know God.
An "agnostic" is the opposite; someone who believes it is not possible to/we do not know God.

A "theist" actively believes in a god or gods.
An "atheist" does not actively believe in a god or gods.

Note that, unlike your apparent thought process, there is no continuum of "theist" <--> "agnostic" <--> "atheist".

There is "gnostic" <--> "agnostic" and there is "theist" <--> "atheist".

No overlap. They are not related words.

That is how we have "gnostic theists", like True Christians(tm), who know that we can know God and who believe in God.

We also have "agnostic theists", like you, who don't think we know or can know God, but think that some sort of god-type thing is probably floating around somewhere. Most self-described agnostics are actually agnostic theists.

Then there are "agnostic atheists", which is what most self-described atheists are. They say, "I don't think there's a god or gods because I haven't seen any evidence, and I don't think there's evidence that we can understand." The agnostic atheist is still open to evidence, and recognizes that saying "I know there is no God", since it is not possible to prove a negative, is an act of faith instead of knowledge.

Finally, the true God-haters are "gnostic atheists". They are certain that we would know God if He were out there, and therefore are certain that He is not. They are every bit as faith-driven as True Christians(tm); we understand their true motive to be a desire to live a life of sin, so they choose to believe there is no God to punish them for their perversions.

"Antitheists" are a whole separate bunch. These are people who are against religion in all its forms, because they think it is destructive to humanity.

I hope this has been educational for you.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

All I see is that you don't know what "atheist" and "agnostic" mean. You don't even know that as neither is a concrete philosophy, neither is a proper noun and thus should not be capitalized.

Let me walk you through the accepted definitions:

A "gnostic" is someone who believes we can/do know God.
An "agnostic" is the opposite; someone who believes it is not possible to/we do not know God.

A "theist" actively believes in a god or gods.
An "atheist" does not actively believe in a god or gods.

Note that, unlike your apparent thought process, there is no continuum of "theist" <--> "agnostic" <--> "atheist".

There is "gnostic" <--> "agnostic" and there is "theist" <--> "atheist".

No overlap. They are not related words.

That is how we have "gnostic theists", like True Christians™, who know that we can know God and who believe in God.

We also have "agnostic theists", like you, who don't think we know or can know God, but think that some sort of god-type thing is probably floating around somewhere. Most self-described agnostics are actually agnostic theists.

Then there are "agnostic atheists", which is what most self-described atheists are. They say, "I don't think there's a god or gods because I haven't seen any evidence, and I don't think there's evidence that we can understand." The agnostic atheist is still open to evidence, and recognizes that saying "I know there is no God", since it is not possible to prove a negative, is an act of faith instead of knowledge.

Finally, the true God-haters are "gnostic atheists". They are certain that we would know God if He were out there, and therefore are certain that He is not. They are every bit as faith-driven as True Christians™; we understand their true motive to be a desire to live a life of sin, so they choose to believe there is no God to punish them for their perversions.

"Antitheists" are a whole separate bunch. These are people who are against religion in all its forms, because they think it is destructive to humanity.

I hope this has been educational for you.

Amen, Reverend. I would like to point out that while there are many points of contrast between monkey worshiping atheists, cross-burning antitheists, and fence humping agnostics, they have a great deal in common as well. Namely, none of them has any moral foundation at all, and therefore they constantly give into the temptation to have sex with members of their own gender, particularly through the anus, which angers Jesus. It makes me heave just thinking about it.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

Amen, Reverend. I would like to point out that while there are many points of contrast between monkey worshiping atheists, cross-burning antitheists, and fence humping agnostics, they have a great deal in common as well. Namely, none of them has any moral foundation at all, and therefore they constantly give into the temptation to have sex with members of their own gender, particularly through the anus, which angers Jesus. It makes me heave just thinking about it.

That's an excellent point, BBJ. All morality comes from God; the man who is without God is without morals!

[RoryReloaded]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

Wow.
This is singlehandedly the stupidest thread I've ever seen.
Attributing volcanic eruptions to God.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

Wow.
This is singlehandedly the stupidest thread I've ever seen.
Attributing volcanic eruptions to God.

So who makes volcanoes happen then? Darwin?

Don't tell me! They just happen at random and kill indiscriminately to no purpose. How ridiculous.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

So who makes volcanoes happen then? Darwin?

Don't tell me! They just happen at random and kill indiscriminately to no purpose. How ridiculous.

Oh yes, don't you know, Brother? Everything happens for no reason at all and at random times according to the radical evilutionists.

[The Lord's Sword]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

Oh yes, don't you know, Brother? Everything happens for no reason at all and at random times according to the radical evilutionists.

The Holy Bible is clear that everything was created in 7 days. How many times does a person have to read Genesis to understand this? Satan is obviously has a very powerful hold over them.

[The Lord's Sword]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

Does He need to scream, "I'm sending you to hell!", before he creates tornadoes? Do they not understand that he requires us not to question Him?

HARRISBURG, Ill. (AP) — A pre-dawn twister flattened entire blocks of homes in a small Illinois town Wednesday as violent storms ravaged the Midwest and South, killing at least 12 people in three states.Winds also ripped through the country music mecca of Branson, Mo., damaging some of the city's famous theaters just days before the start of the busy tourist season.
The tornado that blasted Harrisburg in southern Illinois, killing six, was an EF4, the second-highest rating given to twisters based on damage. Scientists said it was 200 yards wide with winds up to 170 mph.
By midday, townspeople in the community of 9,000 were sorting through piles of debris and remembering their dead while the winds still howled around them.
Not long after the storm, Darrell Osman raced to his mother's home, arriving just in time to speak to her before she was taken to a hospital with a head injury, a severe cut to her neck and a broken arm and leg.
"She was conscious. I wouldn't say she was coherent. There were more mumbles than anything," he said. "She knew we were there."
Mary Osman died a short time later.
The twister that raked Branson seemed to hopscotch up the city's main roadway, moving from side to side.
As sirens blared, Derrick Washington stepped out of his motel room just long enough to see a greenish-purple sky. Then he heard the twister roar.
"Every time the tornado hit a building, you could see it exploding," he said.
At least 37 people were reported hurt, but most suffered only cuts and bruises. After the start of Branson's peak season in mid-March, up to 60,000 visitors would have been in hotels on any given day.
Just six guests were staying at J.R.'s Motor Inn, and all of them escaped injury by taking refuge in bathtubs. Engineers deemed the building a total loss after the second floor, the roof and all windows were destroyed.
Manager Lori McGauley choked back tears thinking about what might have been.
"We had 25 people booked for next week," McGauley said. "If this happened a week later, we would have lost some people."
At the 530-room downtown Hilton, intense winds sucked furniture away. Hotel workers were able to get all guests to safety.
Looking at the city's main strip, it was difficult to believe there weren't more serious injuries. A small mall was nearly completely demolished. The Legends Theater, the Andy Williams Moon River Theater and the Branson Variety Theater all sustained significant damage.
The Veterans Memorial Museum was in shambles, and a small military jet that sat in front of the museum was blown apart.
Some of the most popular theaters were barely damaged. The popular Presley's Country Jubilee was virtually unscathed, as was Yakov Smirnoff's theater. A manager at the Baldknobbers Jamboree Show expected to cancel just three or four shows before performances resume next week.
Other venues weren't so lucky. Branson Variety Theater's 1,600-seat auditorium was intact, but the lobby and gift shop were nearly destroyed. It could be almost two months before the theater's popular Twelve Irish Tenors and Shake, Rattle & Roll shows perform again.
Back in Harrisburg, Nell Cox woke up during the tornado and glanced out her window with a flashlight to see her neighbor being blown out a window.
"She crawled back to the front of my house," Cox said. She ventured outside to grab the woman, brought her indoors and summoned an ambulance.
The winds were strong enough to blow the walls off some rooms at the Harrisburg Medical Center. The staff had enough warning to move the most endangered patients. Then they heard the walls collapse, officials said.
The hospital discharged patients who could go home or moved them to other medical facilities. But they also had to confront an influx of injured.
"Helicopters have been coming in and out here all morning," said Vince Ashley, the hospital's CEO.
In the shattered neighborhoods, debris was strewn everywhere — washing machines and dyers tossed in neighbors' yards, along with kitchen sinks and sticks of lumber with nails protruding. Chunks of pink insolation added color to the disarray.
Osman and his sister sorted through the wreckage at the site of their mother's duplex, looking for photos and financial records. They found 10 old picture slides that were among a collection of hundreds. Some were caked in mud and damaged by water.
"My mother was a Christian," Osman said. "I know she's in a better place. That is the only thing getting me through this."
In Missouri, one person was killed in a trailer park in the town of Buffalo, about 35 miles north of Springfield. Two more fatalities were reported in the Cassville and Puxico areas.
Three people were reported killed in eastern Tennessee — two in Cumberland County and another in DeKalb County as storms that dropped pingpong ball-sized hail in some areas collapsed homes and downed power lines.
Emergency crews worked after nightfall to rescue injured people trapped inside homes. A medical helicopter was seen helping some of the injured.
"We have no idea what the damage is because this happened just before dark," said Doug Scarlett of the Cumberland County American Red Cross.
Mobile homes and houses were flattened in multiple cities in Kentucky, including Elizabethtown in the north-central part of the state, where a tornado with winds of 125 mph touched down. Tommy Turner, the judge-executive in nearby LaRue County, said the storm just missed a large day care and three schools.
Three buildings belonging to an Elizabethtown trucking company were heavily damaged by the violent weather, which also lashed parts of Kansas, Arkansas and Oklahoma.
"It picked the whole building up," said Jim Owen, son of the owner of Harry Owen Trucking. "It would take a group of 20 men five days with equipment to tear that down."
The tornado that barreled through the tiny eastern Kansas town of Harveyville was an EF-2, with wind speeds of 120 to 130 mph, state officials said. It left much of the community in rubble.
The twisters headed toward the East Coast were spawned by a powerful storm system that blew down from the Rockies on Tuesday. Authorities were sending teams to investigate Thursday to determine if tornadoes were involved in Tennessee.
Corey Mead, lead forecaster at the Storm Prediction Center in Norman, Okla., said a broad cold front was slamming into warm, humid air over much of the eastern half of the nation.
Long a tourist destination for visitors attracted to the Ozark Mountains, Branson rose to prominence in the 1990s because of its theaters, which drew country music stars including Merle Haggard and Crystal Gayle, as well as other musical celebrities such as Chubby Checker and Andy Williams.
Branson is about 110 miles southeast of Joplin, which was devastated by a monstrous twister last May that killed 161 people. Memories of that disaster motivated people to take cover after the sirens sounded early Wednesday.
"I think so many people from Branson went over to help in Joplin, and having seen that, it was fresh on our minds," said Mayor Raeanne Presley, whose family owns Presleys' Theater. "We all reached for our loved ones a little sooner and got to the basement a little faster."
The Midwest and South were to get a reprieve from the menacing weather Thursday, ahead of another strong system expected Friday.
Ryan Jewell, a meteorologist with the Storm Prediction Center in Norman, Okla., said the next system is forecast to take a path similar to Wednesday's and has the potential to inflict even more damage.
On Friday, he said, both the Midwest and South would be "right in the bull's eye."

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

Yes, brother. Tornados are further proof. Atheists would say that it's all down to heat patterns in the air but who can deny that if you've just been sucked up into the air and dumped on the ground or been decapitated by flying debris God was getting up close and personal with you and was not telling you good things.

Survivors need to look at those examples and think, "It could have been me. I need to get on my knees before God kills me next."

Why would God make tornados just to randomly kill people regardless of sin?

But of course, atheists want us to ignore all the warnings and have anal sex.
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[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

Does He need to scream, "I'm sending you to hell!", before he creates tornadoes? Do they not understand that he requires us not to question Him?

Thank you for this undeniable evidence that GOD HATES COUNTRY MUSIC!

And then there's this:

Osman and his sister sorted through the wreckage at the site of their mother's duplex, looking for photos and financial records. They found 10 old picture slides that were among a collection of hundreds. Some were caked in mud and damaged by water.

"My mother was a Christian," Osman said. "I know she's in a better place. That is the only thing getting me through this."

I guess any place is better than Branson . . . but just imagine the consequences if the atheistards got their way and purged Christianity from America. Imagine this poor man having to live with the "knowledge" that he will never, ever see his mother again, and that she wholly ceased to exist in her last moments of terror and agony!

Society would simply collapse, I tell you. Just look at the chaos in those "atheist" countries in Europe! The people are miserable, because of their ridiculous belief that life ends at death!

[Adam Fag]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

Thank you for this undeniable evidence that GOD HATES COUNTRY MUSIC!

And then there's this:


I guess any place is better than Branson . . . but just imagine the consequences if the atheistards got their way and purged Christianity from America. Imagine this poor man having to live with the "knowledge" that he will never, ever see his mother again, and that she wholly ceased to exist in her last moments of terror and agony!

Society would simply collapse, I tell you. Just look at the chaos in those "atheist" countries in Europe! The people are miserable, because of their ridiculous belief that life ends at death!

I'm so glad I don't live in Europe.

I might stop reading Genesis and go straight on to Ezekiel.
(Re-reading) my earlier post has made me feel peculiar.

I know the Bible does talk about whirlwinds and earthquakes and that they are used to discipline man.

Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

If God disciplined you by sucking you up into the sky and decapitating you he'd be doing that because of love. But if he punished you for insulting him with idol worship or sex, would that be due to his hating you?

So if an earthquake can open a portal to Hell could a tornado become a stairway to Heaven? I will come back on this after . . .

[JACOB the queer scott]

Re: Volcanos and Earthquakes - yet more proof God created the world for Man

I'm so happy to be joining in on another debate xD wow ha ha right I'm sorry if you look at a globe or a map you can blatently tell all the contenants were once joined together and made the super contenant Pangea, it's almost like join the dots.
The earths core has lava running through it and the seismic wakes cause the tectonic plates to shift in another million years time the earth will look very different to what it is today.
Why do these natural dissasters never happen to places like Britain? Because there is continental tectonic plate! Yes there is Europe and how do you radical christians explain the San Andreas Fault line?! you can see the tectonic plates they're just moving very slowly!!
So you genuinly don't believe in prehistory?
Dinosaurs never roamed the earth or the reptiles before them? The age of mammals never happened?
Also on a side note if you join the continents together you can make them look like a chicken xD