[Rellefg8]

Re: Water Proves Atheism is False!

Ok, it might have not been Pastor Ezekiel who wrote that, but whoever did is bad in math and knowing facts.
According to science, humans only appeared 200000 years ago. Not 3 billion. Also used much less water than we do today. That means that it's going to take much more time to "use it all".

Oh and for those who are actually discussing water evaporation... Seriously?

I do not intend to offend anyone nor their religion, this is me putting some facts straight, i'm actually a christian myself and have nothing against atheist, because every person has free will to believe whatever they want.

[proud-athiest]

Re: Water Proves Atheism is False!

My fellow Residents of the Internet,
My mother taught me what to do in situations such as these, and, like any good boy, I say thank you. Thank you all for a good laugh. With everyone so smart on the internet these days, it's so hard to find genuine stupidity.It makes me feel good inside to know, that, if I want a good hearty laugh, I can just browse to the closest Christian forum and get my daily dose of down home right wing fundamentalism with a heavy Jesus flavor.
Sincerely,
Kirk, the Hypocritical, Unforgiving, Homosexual, Fornicating, Wicked, Covetous, Malicious, Envious, Murdering, Deceitful, Backbiting, Spiteful, Proud, Boasting, Evil-inventing, Disobedient, Covenant-breaking, Unmerciful, Implacable, Unrighteous, Idolatrous, Adulterous, Effeminate, Thieving, Drunk, Reviling, Extortioning, Fearful, Unbelieving, Abominable, Whore-mongering, Sorcerous, Lying, God-hater.

[Jack O'fagan]

Re: Water Proves Atheism is False!

How can you be a proud atheist? You atheists say that atheism is just a lack of belief. That means that you are proud of nothing. Your name shows that atheism is just another faith system.

Accept Jesus now, tomorrow may be too late,

YiC

Jack

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Water Proves Atheism is False!

I can't believe the hatred for God's bounty that's apparent in this thread.

God works to provide you with a steady supply of clean water to drink and so on by making it rain and you throw it back into His face by saying He has actually made us drink the pee of our ancestors.

Shame!

[Theurgist]

Re: Water Proves Atheism is False!

Ended up here somehow while researching Jehovah's Witnesses. Decided I'd sign up to comment anyway. Got 20 minutes to kill and I've never debated religious people outside of Tasmania.

This face describes my reaction to the first page of this thread.

In my experience, religion cannot win a debate using science. It will not happen under any circumstances. I'm 15 and I've only been an atheist for 8 months, but I think this is true on a global scale. I'm happy to debate it if you feel so inclined.

Your argument assumes a closed system in which there have been x number of people for y number of years drinking z amount of water every day where once the water has been consumed it no longer exists or cannot be reused.

You did not take into consideration that the human population has been multiplying at an exponential rate for an extended period of time, or that water does not simply vanish once it has been consumed by an organism (as well as a few minor factors not worth mentioning).

Waste products do not simply stagnate in the place at which they were deposited.

A few ways the wastes are purified that come to mind include filtering through the ground which deposits urea (a byproduct of most animal's metabolic reactions), salts (primarily Na), and some other things in the earth which are utilized by plants in synthesizing new proteins.

Some are evaporated, resulting in pure water vapor, which is then involved in the formation of clouds (I'll happily explain the process to those whom attribute it to God rather than taking the time to understand if so requested. This is first grade science). Some is carried to the ocean, etc.
Through dilution, filter purification, plants absorbing byproducts, the evaporation/transpiration -> precipitation cycle and a few other things water is recycled naturally, meaning your argument is severely flawed.

I could also address life/population growth, but I'm out of time for now.

[Zechariah Smyth]

This face describes my reaction to the first page of this thread.

Sooo...you're a chinaman?

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth
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[cobdog]

Re: Water Proves Atheism is False!

Here's a suggestion right: an atheist reading this aint gonna be swayed by the christian argument, and a christian isn't going to be swayed by the atheist argument. So to revive the work of one Immanuel Kant, 18th century German philosopher, how is this not a pointless argument? I think perhaps it's better to respect each others beliefs and rather than focusing on the hypocrisies of other beliefs focus on your own. You do no good by trying to ram christianity or atheism down somebodies throat, you simply come across as an arrogant, narrow minded, dogmatic tool

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Water Proves Atheism is False!

Here's a suggestion right: an atheist reading this aint gonna be swayed by the christian argument, and a christian isn't going to be swayed by the atheist argument. So to revive the work of one Immanuel Kant, 18th century German philosopher, how is this not a pointless argument? I think perhaps it's better to respect each others beliefs and rather than focusing on the hypocrisies of other beliefs focus on your own. You do no good by trying to ram christianity or atheism down somebodies throat, you simply come across as an arrogant, narrow minded, dogmatic tool

We're not here to debate.

We're here to praise Jesus but these rather rude atheist fellows keep coming in here and hating on God.

Oh, and we're not here to respect the beliefs of others, in fact God specifically tells us not to over and over again.

[Brother Enoch]

Re: Water Proves Atheism is False!

You do no good by trying to ram christianity or atheism down somebodies throat, you simply come across as an arrogant, narrow minded, dogmatic tool

Okay. So would you rather be a tool of God or a tool of Satan?

[Peter Roy]

Re: Water Proves Atheism is False!

Here's a suggestion right: an atheist reading this aint gonna be swayed by the christian argument, and a christian isn't going to be swayed by the atheist argument. So to revive the work of one Immanuel Kant, 18th century German philosopher, how is this not a pointless argument? I think perhaps it's better to respect each others beliefs and rather than focusing on the hypocrisies of other beliefs focus on your own. You do no good by trying to ram christianity or atheism down somebodies throat, you simply come across as an arrogant, narrow minded, dogmatic tool

Very wise words about how people should treat each other, too bad you posted it on this forum.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Water Proves Atheism is False!

*** strawman ***

Where is anyone forcing anything down anyone's throat? Or is that some sick "queer" code-talk that I am no longer privy to?



No, we righteously rebuke people and openly SHAME them for their queer private abominations:

(Proverbs 27:5) "Open rebuke is better than secret love."



Look, at the top of EVERY SINGLE PAGE in this forum it says, UNSAVED UNWELCOME.

How is it even conceivable that we are forcing ANYTHING down ANYONE'S throat when we tell people right up front that if they DO NOT AGREE with us to LEAVE?



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[cobdog]

Re: Water Proves Atheism is False!

sorry i have no idea how to quote so i'm just going to do it my way:

redeemed baptist:
We're not here to debate.

We're here to praise Jesus but these rather rude atheist fellows keep coming in here and hating on God.

Oh, and we're not here to respect the beliefs of others, in fact God specifically tells us not to over and over again.

first 2 points taken and conceded, fact of the matter is though, you are responding in a negative manner. And as I said, if you focused on your own belief system that would perhaps make christianity more appealing to especially youth who statistics show are turning away from the church.

brother enoch:

Okay. So would you rather be a tool of God or a tool of Satan?

call it what you want, as far as my understanding of the bible and God goes, the existence of Satan and a hell are debated amongst christians, and personally if I live a life by MY beliefs, doing as I believe is right then that fundamentally is at the heart of many of the major religions. Seeing as God is known to be this generous forgiving entity (apologies if entity is incorrect wording) considering my motives I am worthy of his forgiveness. So to answer your question, neither. I am nobodies tool. To bring more philosophy in, I name Foucault and his 'panopticism', rules which govern societies actions and reactions. If you want see these as being a 'tool of Satan' or 'tool of God' I don't care. That's your belief

[A Follower]

Re: Water Proves Atheism is False!

Very wise words about how people should treat each other, too bad you posted it on this forum.

Well, wise if you're an idiot. The guy said nothing good comes from ramming Christianity down someone's throat. Absolutely ludicrous. Christianity has saved an untold number of people from disease, accidents and most importantly from eternal hellfire. Christianity is the only religion that can make that claim, atheism, catholicism, budhism, etc only cause evil, but Christianity helps people, that's why we are so forceful with this, it's for your own good, you are just too stupid to see it.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Water Proves Atheism is False!

as far as my understanding of the bible and God goes, the existence of Satan and a hell are debated amongst christians

You are badly misled then. You have to follow the word of God, the bible, to be a Christian. If you follow the bible, it is clear that Satan and hell are very real. So you see, there ain't no debate about this among the Christians. Sure, there might be some fluffy bunny false-Christians debating about it, but in reality they are just as much heathen as muslims, catlicks or swedish.

[cobdog]

Re: Water Proves Atheism is False!

Zechariah Smyth: fair enough. Just so you're aware, I'm not lashing out at christians, it's an attack on both christians and atheists. This is not a debate that's going to be won or lost. Oh and as for your use of the word 'queer', I really hope you're using it as a synonym for weird, strange, odd etc.

A follower: thats your belief, for all us 'doomed' people it clearly is not. for all us 'doomed' people we see all the hypocrisies within your beliefs, you see all the hypocrisies within ours. Here's my question to you, why is yours more right than mine?