[Hamish]

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[QUOTE=Alphonse Alban;804853]OK, except that I did not post any links. Anywhoo, it is true that I would like to see people saved, but if people choose not to follow word of God, it's their fault. If Jesus in heaven has no problem with listening people tortured in hell, then I won't see any problem with it.

So your god would have no problem letting innocent and good people burn in a lake of fire for all eternity even if they had never even heard of jesus or christianity? Not to mention he's killed more people than satan has in your stories. Even if he came down here and said everything in the bible were true I would still refuse to follow such an egotistical scum bag. That isn't a loving benevolent god, he's more akin to a bratty child with a magnifying class killing ants or a sociopath killing people that don't like him.

[Alphonse Alban]

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no problem letting innocent and good people burn in a lake of fire for all eternity even if they had never even heard of jesus or christianity?

Don't be silly, of course they are not innocent and good. They are heathens and sinners.

[Redeemed Papist]

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i found the quote button

for such an easy question you have succeeded in providing an incredibly vague answer. In any case, my question is directed to YOUR personal interpretation. How am I supposed to understand and be redeemed without seeing into the minds of those already saved?

We follow the Bible. How does MY opinion come into it? The Bible guides me in everything.

[Redeemed Papist]

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So your god would have no problem letting innocent and good people burn in a lake of fire for all eternity even if they had never even heard of jesus or christianity? Not to mention he's killed more people than satan has in your stories. Even if he came down here and said everything in the bible were true I would still refuse to follow such an egotistical scum bag. That isn't a loving benevolent god, he's more akin to a bratty child with a magnifying class killing ants or a sociopath killing people that don't like him.

You're free to hate God if you like. The problem with hating God is that He burns you forever if you do.

Luke 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

[Hamish]

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Would you stone your own son if he disobeyed you?

[Redeemed Papist]

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Would you stone your own son if he disobeyed you?

What? I'd thrash him at first. But of course I wouldn't stone him if he was still stubborn and wouldn't respond to being chastened.

Biblical law demands that if he will not obey me even though I have tried everything possible then I should bring him to the elders.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 18If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: 19Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; 20And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. 21And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

So I wouldn't stone him; all the men of the city would stone him.

However, at the moment secular law prevents this so we have to put up with stubborn rebellious brats growing up into stubborn, rebellious men who then fill our prisons to breaking point. Secular law is so wise.

[ProvingTheistsWrong]

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Not to worry, atheism is increasing dramatically all over the country, so if your "stubborn rebellious brat" becomes atheist, I think he will do better in life then if he was Christian.

[Redeemed Papist]

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Not to worry, atheism is increasing dramatically all over the country, so if your "stubborn rebellious brat" becomes atheist, I think he will do better in life then if he was Christian.

I hope you get the chance to explain your point of view when you are both being tortured forever in Hell.

[ProvingTheistsWrong]

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I wont be able to, Hell doesn't exist, its a myth just like God and unicorns. I'll be fine laying in the ground like you, forever.

[Redeemed Papist]

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I wont be able to, Hell doesn't exist, its a myth just like God and unicorns. I'll be fine laying in the ground like you, forever.

But unicorns are (or at least were) real.

Look, I'm not trying to be argumentative here but you really aren't very good at praising Jesus.

[ProvingTheistsWrong]

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But then the Flying Spaghetti Monster would be real too. He has the same amount of proof. I'll be going to spaghetti land when I die, to bath in the spaghettish glory. Flying Spaghetti Monster is the one true God!

[Hamish]

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I look forward to the day when people like you are recognized by society for what you truly are: immoral, hateful, disgusting human beings, known to only cause emotional scarring to their children. You can call atheists, agnostics, Hindus, Buddhists and the entirety of the human population heathens and threaten us with hellfire for not believing in your specific god and your specific bible translation (of which there are many) but you are the immoral person. Attempting to stifle creativity and knowledge, dictating others who they are supposed to love and how they are allowed to enjoy their lives. You would stone your own son because of a book and that is absolutely appalling. I expect you to end up in jail with the rest of the child molesting priests but then that would mean you took the life of your own family so I hope for their sake they are able to escape your evil grasp. You need psychiatric help.

[ProvingTheistsWrong]

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I look forward to the day when people like you are recognized by society for what you truly are: immoral, hateful, disgusting human beings, known to only cause emotional scarring to their children. You can call atheists, agnostics, Hindus, Buddhists and the entirety of the human population heathens and threaten us with hellfire for not believing in your specific god and your specific bible translation (of which there are many) but you are the immoral person. Attempting to stifle creativity and knowledge, dictating others who they are supposed to love and how they are allowed to enjoy their lives. You would stone your own son because of a book and that is absolutely appalling. I expect you to end up in jail with the rest of the child molesting priests but then that would mean you took the life of your own family so I hope for their sake they are able to escape your evil grasp. You need psychiatric help.

Not sure if troll
Or huge Hypocrite.

[Redeemed Papist]

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But then the Flying Spaghetti Monster would be real too. He has the same amount of proof. I'll be going to spaghetti land when I die, to bath in the spaghettish glory. Flying Spaghetti Monster is the one true God!

Oh dear.

Look, friend, I know some of you kiddies believe everything you read on the interwebs but oddly enough some of it is not true.

Obviously we are referring to the true word of God when we quote scripture whereas the whole FSM fad is based on a snarky letter from some net nerds. I wonder which is more likely to result in you burning in a lake of fire if you disbelieve it!

[ProvingTheistsWrong]

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Well, look, I know you guys believe everything you read in a book, but God was created by humans. Jesus was real, but he was crucified along with 1000's of others, nothing makes him more important that the others that were killed.