[Cranky Old Man]

Re: other planets do not exist!

I already have if you actually looked at the the other thread. Go onto the thread and look at the scientific evidence you are all ignoring.

We are not ignoring scientific evidence. We are disputing it. There is a difference, though that probably is beyond your reach.

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: other planets do not exist!

We are not ignoring scientific evidence. We are disputing it. There is a difference, though that probably is beyond your reach.

And your disputing it by saying "that isn't true because the Holy Bible says different." That's really good evidence fro most of the book being real. It is a book of stories nothing more. Every culture has their own creation stories, and stories that deal with social norms and how to act in society. The problem with the bible and many other books is that they are outdated, and no longer apply to today's world. I'd hardly consider it written by a group of schizos. I'd imagine times were different 4000 years ago, and that it was more or less actually believed. You have central heating, air conditioning, television, public education, and motor vehicles. Your life is so convenient, so sanitized. Imagine trying to make sense of things back then. Sure, they're wrong, but it's not because they were insane.

Your disputing really isn't going well because science is still finding the reality of the universe around us, in contrast to what you are saying.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: other planets do not exist!

And your disputing it by saying "that isn't true because the Holy Bible says different."

I am glad you figured at least that part out.

The problem with the bible and many other books is that they are outdated, and no longer apply to today's world.

No. The problem is that people are ignoring God more and more. More crime, more suffering, all caused by less God. We get what we deserve.

I'd imagine times were different 4000 years ago

You think...

I know, this to be true as the Bible tells us exactly what happened 4000 years ago (or 2000 years ago). The Bible was written in 1611, it's not as out of touch as you think.

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: other planets do not exist!

The problem is that people are ignoring God more and more. More crime, more suffering, all caused by less God. We get what we deserve.

How do you know it is caused by "less God"? That's a pretty big assertion, considering most people in prison are Christian. The USA is a far more Christian and religious country than any northern European country. But the USA also has, by far, the highest prison population on the planet and higher levels of crime. The problem you have is with people not believing *your* god. Most cultures got on perfectly fine before Christianity was foisted upon them. Actually, the fact that criminals believe in god more than the average kinda blows that statement out of the water. And that atheists commit less crimes.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: other planets do not exist!

How do you know it is caused by "less God"? That's a pretty big assertion, considering most people in prison are Christian. The USA is a far more Christian and religious country than any northern European country. But the USA also has, by far, the highest prison population on the planet and higher levels of crime. The problem you have is with people not believing *your* god. Most cultures got on perfectly fine before Christianity was foisted upon them. Actually, the fact that criminals believe in god more than the average kinda blows that statement out of the water. And that atheists commit less crimes.

The problem with your logic is in assuming people in prison are really Christian. Anyone can say they are a Christian, but only a True Christian™ is incapable of sin, and therefore not going to be tempted to commit crimes (1st John 5:18).

The very trend you bring up shows the importance of being 100% obedient unto the LORD. There are more and more people in prisons today, and more and more liberal Christian wanna-be's, fluffy-bunny Bible cherry-pickers, "spiritual but not religious" fools, pagans, and atheists. This of course will have an impact on the crime rate of any society.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Son, if I told you I had personally seen Bigfoot playing monopoly with a four-headed donkey out in the fields east of Freehold, don't you think you might require some actual evidence to believe it? Claiming you've seen a planet that does not exist is no different. I'm sorry to break it to you, but you seem like a nice fellow, and so I offer you this advice in True Christian™ love.

They just don't get it that hearsay is not evidence of anything. And they claim to know how to be rational.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: other planets do not exist!

But the USA also has, by far, the highest prison population on the planet and higher levels of crime.

Again your logic is severely flawed.

America has less crime than the rest of the world. Why? We actually lock up our criminals instead of allowing them to continue stealing, raping and voting for Obama.

[Asshat Turdhead]

Re: other planets do not exist!

America does actually have a high crime rate. And your assertion of Christians causing less crime does not match the figures in a world survey. American Crime is more than the crime of Islamic yemen and Saudi Arambia, Atheistic China, and Hinduistic India.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: other planets do not exist!

America does actually have a high crime rate. And your assertion of Christians causing less crime does not match the figures in a world survey. American Crime is more than the crime of Islamic yemen and Saudi Arambia, Atheistic China, and Hinduistic India.

You, are a filthy liar.

[Asshat Turdhead]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Rate of Yemen crime, 1.16109 per 1,000 people.(lowest in the world)
Rate of Indian crime, 3.021 per 1,000 people.
Rate of Chinese crime. 3.1 per 1,000 people.
Rate of American crime. 6.2 per 1,000 people.

Citing the "NationMaster" for my finds

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Rate of Yemen crime, 1.16109 per 1,000 people.(lowest in the world)

Someone forgot to tell NATO
_http://www.nato.int/docu/review/2010/Yemen/Yemen_Terrorism/EN/

[Asshat Turdhead]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Terrorist groups tend to hide out there but they do not do very much of their crime in Yemen. Prior to the 2011 revolution, Yemen was a very wealthy oil nation. Mush to the shock of everyone, after the revolution, Yemen stabilized very quickly. Much like the US after its revolution.

[James Hutchins]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Terrorist groups tend to hide out there but they do not do very much of their crime in Yemen. Prior to the 2011 revolution, Yemen was a very wealthy oil nation. Mush to the shock of everyone, after the revolution, Yemen stabilized very quickly. Much like the US after its revolution.

Friend, everyone knows all the terrorists from third world countries like yemen, chechnya all commit thier atrocities on American soil. They have already destroyed thier own countries.
You have to get the crime figures of crimes caused by normal Americans. Not commies, beaners, mooslimes, eskimoes, micks, wops, frogs spics, indians, yids or nigras.
People like you are so narrow minded!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: other planets do not exist!

Terrorist groups tend to hide out there but they do not do very much of their crime in Yemen. Prior to the 2011 revolution, Yemen was a very wealthy oil nation. Mush to the shock of everyone, after the revolution, Yemen stabilized very quickly. Much like the US after its revolution.

Originally Posted by The CIA
North Yemen became independent of the Ottoman Empire in 1918. The British, who had set up a protectorate area around the southern port of Aden in the 19th century, withdrew in 1967 from what became South Yemen. Three years later, the southern government adopted a Marxist orientation. The massive exodus of hundreds of thousands of Yemenis from the south to the north contributed to two decades of hostility between the states. The two countries were formally unified as the Republic of Yemen in 1990. A southern secessionist movement and brief civil war in 1994 was quickly subdued. In 2000, Saudi Arabia and Yemen agreed to a delimitation of their border. Fighting in the northwest between the government and Huthi rebels, a group seeking a return to traditional Zaydi Islam, began in 2004 and has since resulted in six rounds of fighting - the last ended in early 2010 with a cease-fire that continues to hold. The southern secessionist movement was revitalized in 2008 when a popular socioeconomic protest movement initiated the prior year took on political goals including secession. Public rallies in Sana'a against then President SALIH - inspired by similar demonstrations in Tunisia and Egypt - slowly built momentum starting in late January 2011 fueled by complaints over high unemployment, poor economic conditions, and corruption. By the following month, some protests had resulted in violence, and the demonstrations had spread to other major cities. By March the opposition had hardened its demands and was unifying behind calls for SALIH's immediate ouster. The Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) in late April 2011, in an attempt to mediate the crisis in Yemen, proposed an agreement in which the president would step down in exchange for immunity from prosecution. SALIH's refusal to sign an agreement led to heavy street fighting and his injury in an explosion in June 2011. The UN Security Council passed Resolution 2014 in October 2011 calling on both sides to end the violence

How odd. The world's more law abiding regimes don't usually get UN Security Council resolutions calling for an end to violence. Did you forget to update the CIA too?

[Asshat Turdhead]

Re: other planets do not exist!

The big hole in your evidence is the date, October 2011, during the revolution. Since then, crime has largely died down.