[Didymus Much]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

...How Do We Know That Evolution Has Occurred?

The evidence for evolution has primarily come from four sources:

1. the fossil record of change in earlier species...

Now prove that God did not place the fossils there to fool us into disbelieving the Bible and condemning ourselves to Hell.

...2. the chemical and anatomical similarities of related life forms
3. the geographic distribution of related species...

Baraminology covers both of these, with no need for evolution.

...4. the recorded genetic changes in living organisms over many generations

Just because types of dogs become other types of dogs does not mean that fish become dogs that become whales.

And back to your:

...How Do We Know That Evolution Has Occurred?

It's so easy to Know things when you refuse to look at any other possible explanation.

[Titus Templeton]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

I have to watch the video again just to understand everything.

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

Now prove that God did not place the fossils

Wouldn't that make god a liar and a prankster? Saying that God created the conditions for life to form is one thing, but saying God is trying to trick us into going to hell with fossils is a little much.

"Prove that God did not place the fossils" is same as saying:
"Prove that there isn't a teapot orbiting Mars" - it does not prove that there is a teapot in Mars orbit, just like your argument does not prove that God exists. The burden of proof is on you.

Also, evolution is true because we have not found any evidence that is contrary to it, e.g. a mammal with six limbs, or an organism with DNA completely different from any other living thing. But creationism cannot be proven because there is no evidence that would be contrary to it.

Finally, if God gave us a ton of evidence for evolution, then sends us to hell for believing it, isn't that a bit mean? It's kinda like a girl who tells a guy "Sure, go hang out with your buddies at a bar, I do not care", and then gets mad at him when he does. A girl like that would be called a passive-aggressive psychopath. How is your "God" different?

If god had put the fossils there to fool us, trick us, condemn and send us to hell, as you suggest, that would be a frigging mormon of a god. Not the one you should be putting your faith one. I certainly wouldn't want to expend eternity in the company of such a mental case, with such tyrannical instincts.

Baraminology covers both of these, with no need for evolution.

I have not heard of this until now. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Another poor attempt to reconcile sheer idiocy (creationism) with the fact of evolution.

Baraminology isn't science because it relies on very vaguely-defined words (like "kinds"), and blatantly disregards and ignores evidence that disagrees with it. It's point isn't to explain and educate, but to muddy the waters and confuse people to the point where they accept your faith. What a joke, delusional pseudo-science invented by desparate creationists to justify their ludicrous and primitive view of the universe. Please, get yourself some real education while there is still hope for you. The ideas you are being brainwashed by are pathetic. You will not get far in life if you choose to remain ignorant and superstitious and accept lies like this as "correct". Creationists should be ashamed of purveying such rubbish.

It's so easy to Know things when you refuse to look at any other possible explanation.

There's the matter of inconsistency. The idea that a loving God would trick people is ridiculous. Are you so blind that you can't see the huge disconnect between a God that supposedly loves humanity, but would also plant false evidence that, combined with free will, would lead people to making a logical yet incorrect conclusion that would damn them to unimaginable torment for all eternity? Can you seriously not see that that would be hateful, monstrous thing to do, and would fit any definition of "evil" that one could possibly make?

How do we know evolution happened? Evidence. Mountains and mountains of evidence. If you are willing to put a tiny little bit of effort into researching this then you could see for yourself. Why post this question here and not in the science section where you could get some informative answers? Perhaps your just here to preach and aren't really interested in learning?

[Didymus Much]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

...saying God is trying to trick us into going to hell with fossils is a little much...

Who are you to place limits on God?

2 Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:"

Start here.

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

Start here.

I have read it. It's hilarious; a great tool to become an atheist. You believe what is in this book because you're foolish, ignorant and scared. There is a distinction to be drawn between those who claim access to the view of truth, therefore, claim to know what happens to after we're dead on the basic of the text, which is nonsensical. If you want to believe it, that's fine, just don't push it down our children throats, and you must not tell me who I'm allowed to go to bed with and who I'm not allowed to go to bed with. It's no acceptable - anyone who tells me what happens after I'm dead is either a liar or a fool because you don't no.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

I have read it. It's hilarious; a great tool to become an atheist. You believe what is in this book because you're foolish, ignorant and scared. There is a distinction to be drawn between those who claim access to the view of truth, therefore, claim to know what happens to after we're dead on the basic of the text, which is nonsensical. If you want to believe it, that's fine, just don't push it down our children throats, and you must not tell me who I'm allowed to go to bed with and who I'm not allowed to go to bed with. It's no acceptable - anyone who tells me what happens after I'm dead is either a liar or a fool because you don't no.

You do realize that this is a Christian forum...Why are you here? Did your master satan send you?

[AtheistDemonBuffoon]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

You keep saying there is no evidence for God but the Bible is, in fact evidence.

If you ignore the document we called the Bible you must also ignore the document known as On the Origin of Species.

Otherwise you are guilty of cherry picking evidence to suit your a priori assumptions.

YIC

Your "proof" of God's existence uses circular logic, which never works.
So God wrote the Bible, and the Bible said that God wrote the bible, which means that God wrote the Bible, because it said that God wrote the bible...
That's not proof.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

Your "proof" of God's existence uses circular logic, which never works.
So God wrote the Bible, and the Bible said that God wrote the bible, which means that God wrote the Bible, because it said that God wrote the bible...
That's not proof.

Son, you remind me of a story. This is the story of a hunter who year after year kept bringing to market huge quantities of wild boar. Nobody could figure out how he did it. He never told his secret. Finally, on his deathbed, some of his friends asked him how he had done it.

"Well, it took a lot of planning. First, I set out troughs of food. The older hogs refuse to get near it at first, but the younger ones do come sniffing around, and they eventually start eating. I let them do this for about a month. Even the older boars start joining the younger ones at the trough. Then I build a fence behind the trough. This scares them at first, but they find it easier to eat here than forage for themselves, so they come back.

"Then I build a second fence at a 90-degree angle to the back fence. That takes them a while to get used to, but they eventually do. Then comes the third side, and then the back side. There's a large gate in that final strip of fencing, and it's always wide open. It's on hinges. The hogs keep coming. After all, it's free food for one and all. When enough of them come in for their free food, I just shut the gate. The rest is easy."

This is precisely the strategy used by New Atheists against unsaved people. The free food is called "science" But the New Atheist High Priests are even smarter than that hunter. They make the atheists pay for the fencing and the darwinist slop in the trough. This system is called "public education." The short-sighted pigs pay for the slaughter of their own offspring. Pigs love their free slop, even when it isn't free. Warn them that the slop in the trough is a trap for their piglets, and you will hear a lot of outraged squealing. You will make a lot of enemies.

You don't have to be our enemy, friend. You don't have to fight Jesus any more. You can walk away from the trough and be free. We're here to help.

[AtheistDemonBuffoon]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

Son, you remind me of a story. This is the story of a hunter who year after year kept bringing to market huge quantities of wild boar. Nobody could figure out how he did it. He never told his secret. Finally, on his deathbed, some of his friends asked him how he had done it.

"Well, it took a lot of planning. First, I set out troughs of food. The older hogs refuse to get near it at first, but the younger ones do come sniffing around, and they eventually start eating. I let them do this for about a month. Even the older boars start joining the younger ones at the trough. Then I build a fence behind the trough. This scares them at first, but they find it easier to eat here than forage for themselves, so they come back.

"Then I build a second fence at a 90-degree angle to the back fence. That takes them a while to get used to, but they eventually do. Then comes the third side, and then the back side. There's a large gate in that final strip of fencing, and it's always wide open. It's on hinges. The hogs keep coming. After all, it's free food for one and all. When enough of them come in for their free food, I just shut the gate. The rest is easy."

This is precisely the strategy used by New Atheists against unsaved people. The free food is called "science" But the New Atheist High Priests are even smarter than that hunter. They make the atheists pay for the fencing and the darwinist slop in the trough. This system is called "public education." The short-sighted pigs pay for the slaughter of their own offspring. Pigs love their free slop, even when it isn't free. Warn them that the slop in the trough is a trap for their piglets, and you will hear a lot of outraged squealing. You will make a lot of enemies.

You don't have to be our enemy, friend. You don't have to fight Jesus any more. You can walk away from the trough and be free. We're here to help.

I do understand that the message you attempted to convey here was about not being enemies, but as I've stated before, when the people on this forum have no counter to a post of mine, they attempt to evade the post (very poorly) and they go off topic. All you did was criticize public education and imply that I'm "short-sighted." I've had a wonderful education; I learn at school, and I also learn from various sources that are completely unrelated to school.
You didn't address my post properly.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

I do understand that the message you attempted to convey here was about not being enemies, but as I've stated before, when the people on this forum have no counter to a post of mine, they attempt to evade the post (very poorly) and they go off topic. All you did was criticize public education and imply that I'm "short-sighted." I've had a wonderful education; I learn at school, and I also learn from various sources that are completely unrelated to school.
You didn't address my post properly.

What you've learned is a lie. You've been fenced in and are being led to eternal slaughter. Only, in Hell, there is no end. There is no death. The torture and suffering will go on forever and ever and ever, and you will have no choice but to experience it for all eternity. Son, you have the option to walk away! You have the opportunity to see the open gate in the corner - the Way of Christ! You have the ability to turn away from this free slop you call education, this slop that tricked you into believing what your teachers told you is right. Don't miss this opportunity! I implore you - get right with Jesus now, before it's too late!

[AtheistDemonBuffoon]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

What you've learned is a lie. You've been fenced in and are being led to eternal slaughter. Only, in Hell, there is no end. There is no death. The torture and suffering will go on forever and ever and ever, and you will have no choice but to experience it for all eternity. Son, you have the option to walk away! You have the opportunity to see the open gate in the corner - the Way of Christ! You have the ability to turn away from this free slop you call education, this slop that tricked you into believing what your teachers told you is right. Don't miss this opportunity! I implore you - get right with Jesus now, before it's too late!

Pass.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

Pass.

Enjoy hell.

[IdiocyofMYUniverse]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

Enjoy hell.

Do you have evidence of hell existing or are you just bringing faith to the table?

[AgnosticsAreCowards]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

We evolved, we didn't just become humans out of thin air. If God did make us in human form, does that not make him a witchcraft practitioner?

Evolution has more of an stance in human society than a wizard in the sky.

[Des]

Re: 100 Reasons Why Evolution Is So Stupid

We evolved, we didn't just become humans out of thin air. If God did make us in human form, does that not make him a witchcraft practitioner?

Evolution has more of an stance in human society than a wizard in the sky.

Then why hasn't all that pond scum evolved into monkeys already?