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    what you might not understand is.. that guy may be wrong in trying to promote weed to children..i agree..but in Europe most likly in Holland.. its Legal.. but they do have age limits there to 18 and over. so you cant just asume by seeing..you have to look into it.

    Marijauna does not make you want to reject God, it relaxes.. you dont go out yelling i hate God or anything like that.. whats a big killer towards God is Meth and Alcohol and other hardcore drugs..

    i know lots of Christian people that have illness and use Marijuana to get better. Marijuana and Alcohol work the same way..sum people like to come home and drink a beer to relax and not get drunk..other people like to come home and smoke a joint to relax.. and not get overly intoxicated ..

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    • Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

      i already stated why a Adult would suck on a Lolly for the simply reason, they CANT SMOKE do to there condition

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      • Re: Facts not ideas

        Originally posted by Hebrew90 View Post
        its Legal..
        Pornography is (still) legal in the USA. Is it therefore moral?

        Originally posted by Hebrew90 View Post
        Marijauna does not make you want to reject God, it relaxes..
        Relaxation does not bring us closer to God.

        Originally posted by Hebrew90 View Post
        i know lots of Christian people that have illness and use Marijuana to get better.
        Then they are not Christian: prayer works. They will be in for a big surprise when they meet God in person, for their houses are built on sand, not on a rock.
        I take my orders from Jesus H. Christ, supernatural born US citizen

        Be wary of false Kumbaya Christians who use a highlighter and scissors to read the Bible. God wants us to read the lines, not between the lines. False Christians will go to Hell:
        Matthew 7:22
        Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
        Matthew 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

        Asking a Christian to prove God exists is like asking him to prove his phone rings because yours doesn't. Make that call yourself! Dial 0800-get-on-your-knees-and-pray.

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        • Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

          I was reading this forum and made an account just because this bothered me so much. Remember guys you are supposed to be nice at all times even when others accuse or have a certin belief on something. He obviously wants to learn weather marijuana is sinful or not or he would of not of even posted on here. Instead of you guys helping him in the right direction you just called him a sinner and tell him to get his devil weed out of here and ban him ...... really? those are the same actions in history which have lead to wars. So before you guys go off judging maby you should sit back and look at yourself.
          Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

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            And btw, i know none of you or maby one of you have, created this forum but whats up with the, "unsaved trash" rank when you make a new account and the motto of the site is ""unsaved welcome." I know its supposed to symbolize you being new to faith but that's the sort of stuff that drives people away how about new comer or something of a much more peaceful nature?
            Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

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            • Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

              Originally posted by Tom Bob View Post
              ILLITERATE JUNKY BABBLING SNIPPED
              Originally posted by Tom Bob View Post
              SEE ABOVE
              Listen Cheech, if you don't like hearing the truth about the evils of marihuana, you could always, I don't know, NOT READ OUR HOLY FORUM!!!

              If we wanted the opinion of an unsaved drug addict, we could always just drive to downtown DesMoines and talk to some of the local Negros.
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                Originally posted by Capt. A. Portway View Post
                Listen Cheech, if you don't like hearing the truth about the evils of marihuana, you could always, I don't know, NOT READ OUR HOLY FORUM!!!

                If we wanted the opinion of an unsaved drug addict, we could always just drive to downtown DesMoines and talk to some of the local Negros.
                wow okay, first, really mature calling me cheech, 2nd when did i ever say i did smoke marijuana, if you would of actually read what i was saying i stated pushing in the right direction away from marijuana. 3rd racism? and you say your a holy forum? and it even says at the bottom of the site that everything is biblicaly accurate yet you just try to take a stab at anyone who try's to speak. 4th Judgment? even when i agreed with you that marijuana is the wrong way to turn you call me a druggie? Matt. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged."
                And even if he did smoke marijuana, Jesus died for our sins and saying he's doomed to eternal damnation is ignorant.
                Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

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                • Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

                  Originally posted by Tom Bob View Post
                  Matt. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged."
                  And even if he did smoke marijuana, Jesus died for our sins and saying he's doomed to eternal damnation is ignorant.
                  Look here, druggie. As blood-bought children of God, we glorify Him in our bodies and our spirits. We do not poison God's temple with deadly narcotics. Our bodies are not ours to abuse by smoking marihuana cigarettes!

                  I Corinthians 6:19-20
                  What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
                  For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

                  You pretend to be a Christian, but your poor understanding of the Word is evidence that you do not put God first in your life. Otherwise, you would have read the entire Bible, be guided by the Holy Spirit, and not cherry-pick verses that only agree with your vain preconceptions of what is right and wrong. I suspect that your narcotics abuse is what is causing you to put such great distance between yourself and your Creator.

                  Typical of false christians, you take Matthew 7:1 entirely out of context. Even worse, you quote a false translation of the Bible. God's Perfect Bible (the King James Authorized Version © 1611) reads thusly:

                  Matthew 7:1-5
                  Judge not, that ye be not judged.
                  For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
                  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
                  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
                  Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


                  For a piece of drug-abusing unsaved trash like yourself, this must sound like a stern warning against passing judgment. And for you, it is. You do not abide in righteousness, you do not have the Spirit in you, and any judgment you make is made hypocritically, because you continue to wallow in sin, perversion, and depredation.

                  However, I am a True Christian™, and my sins have been washed away by Christ's Blood (I John 1:7, II Corinthians 5;17, Revelation 1:5) . Further, my thoughts, words, and deeds are guided by the Holy Spirit, and I am incapable of sin (I John 3:6-9, Romans 8:33)! It is, in fact, no exaggeration to say that I am perfect. I welcome God's judgment, because on that day, I will be at the right hand of Jesus Christ. As such, I will follow the Word of God as it pertains to judging unsaved trash like yourself:

                  Psalm 37:30
                  The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

                  John 7:24
                  Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

                  II Timothy 4:2-5
                  Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
                  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
                  And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
                  But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

                  Indeed, God tells us that we will judge angels! Praise!

                  I Corinthians 6:2-3
                  Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
                  Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?


                  Son, if you continue the path you are on, you are in for a very unpleasant surprise when you die. Your false hippy Jesus will pass you a marihuana cigarette and offer you a "toke." While you suck down the narcotics, he will reveal his true demon form, mock you for being so easily deceived, grab you by the ankle and hurtle you into the fiery pits of hell!!

                  This isn't what we want for you, son. We want you to join us in Heaven, pressed against the bosom of Jesus. We want you to quit your vain distorting of Scripture and for you to accept the Word of God as given in the KJV 1611 in its entirety. So, son, won't you please put down the marihuana cigarettes and spend more time glorifying God and reading His Word? Jesus and I love you, and we want you to join us. You too can be a perfect True Christian™ if you will only accept Him and follow all of the instructions He left us, His Chosen Elect.
                  II Thessalonians 1:7-9
                  And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
                  In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
                  Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



                  The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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                  • Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

                    Ive stated now 3 times that i dont even smoke marijuana and you call me a druggie like a immature 5 year old, why? lol im not taking a stab at you guys im just wondering why you judge people so much, that you say things like "unsaved trash" and "pretending to be a christan" and you didn't respond yet to Matt. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged." And no its a different version, same meaning do your homework. Cause alls your doing is judging me when i am agreeing with you that drugs are bad and you must follow the lord. And how can you say another living human being is trash ...... come on man lol be peaceful.
                    Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

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                      Originally posted by Tom Bob View Post
                      Ive stated now 3 times that i dont even smoke marijuana and you call me a druggie like a immature 5 year old, why? lol im not taking a stab at you guys im just wondering why you judge people so much, that you say things like "unsaved trash" and "pretending to be a christan" and you didn't respond yet to Matt. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged." And no its a different version, same meaning do your homework. Cause alls your doing is judging me when i am agreeing with you that drugs are bad and you must follow the lord. And how can you say another living human being is trash ...... come on man lol be peaceful.
                      First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

                      Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

                      Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .


                      Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.


                      And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

                      I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.
                      Who Will Jesus Damn?

                      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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                      • Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

                        why so negative? i thought you were supposed to greet others with open arms, especially other christans who are agreeing with you the whole time lol
                        Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

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                          Originally posted by Tom Bob View Post
                          why so negative? i thought you were supposed to greet others with open arms, especially other christans who are agreeing with you the whole time lol
                          Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

                          And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.
                          Who Will Jesus Damn?

                          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                          Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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                          • Re: Marijuana is God's Gift to Christianity!

                            Originally posted by Tom Bob View Post
                            and you didn't respond yet to Matt. 7:1 "Do not judge, or you too will be judged."
                            Originally posted by Myself
                            Typical of false christians, you take Matthew 7:1 entirely out of context. Even worse, you quote a false translation of the Bible. God's Perfect Bible (the King James Authorized Version © 1611) reads thusly:

                            Matthew 7:1-5
                            Judge not, that ye be not judged.
                            For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
                            And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
                            Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
                            Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


                            For a piece of drug-abusing unsaved trash like yourself, this must sound like a stern warning against passing judgment. And for you, it is. You do not abide in righteousness, you do not have the Spirit in you, and any judgment you make is made hypocritically, because you continue to wallow in sin, perversion, and depredation.

                            However, I am a True Christian™, and my sins have been washed away by Christ's Blood (I John 1:7, II Corinthians 5;17, Revelation 1:5) . Further, my thoughts, words, and deeds are guided by the Holy Spirit, and I am incapable of sin (I John 3:6-9, Romans 8:33)! It is, in fact, no exaggeration to say that I am perfect. I welcome God's judgment, because on that day, I will be at the right hand of Jesus Christ. As such, I will follow the Word of God as it pertains to judging unsaved trash like yourself:

                            Psalm 37:30
                            The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.

                            John 7:24
                            Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

                            II Timothy 4:2-5
                            Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
                            For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
                            And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
                            But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

                            Indeed, God tells us that we will judge angels! Praise!

                            I Corinthians 6:2-3
                            Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
                            Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

                            In what way did I not respond to your false interpretation of Matthew 7:1? In the same sense that you are a Christian, perhaps?
                            II Thessalonians 1:7-9
                            And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
                            In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
                            Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



                            The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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                              whats wrong with you guys it clearly says in the bible to be nice to everyone even ones enemy, be nice guys lol why so much hate, we need to unite not drive each other away.
                              Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

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                                Originally posted by Tom Bob View Post
                                whats wrong with you guys it clearly says in the bible to be nice to everyone even ones enemy, be nice guys lol why so much hate, we need to unite not drive each other away.
                                Please cite relevant verses of Scripture for your vain assertions. I believe you will find yourself unable to do so. Have you even bothered to read the Holy Bible (KJV 1611)?

                                Because you are not a True Christian™, you do not have the Holy Spirit inside you, guiding your understanding of God's Plan. In other words, you lack discernment and the ability to truly understand His Word because you are in rebellion against your Creator and continually refuse Jesus' kind offer of Redemption. So you take one nice-sounding verse out of context and try to negate the rest of God's Word because of your own lack of understanding.

                                If you had one iota of Christian discernment, you would recognize our Christian love for what it is. Why do you think we are here, spreading God's Word to lost souls? It is precisely because of our love for them. We even love you, which is why we scourge you and chasten you. If we didn't love you, we would just ignore you and let you continue to wallow in drug-addled depredation without trying to get you to wake up and realize that you will burn in the lake of fire for all eternity if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your personal LORD and Savior. After all, our Salvation™ is already assured.

                                Even worse, if we hated you, we would molly-coddle you and tell you that your narcotics abuse is a-okay. But we love you, and we want you to join us in Heaven, believe it or not.

                                Hebrews 12:5-8
                                And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
                                For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
                                If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
                                But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
                                II Thessalonians 1:7-9
                                And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
                                In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
                                Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



                                The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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