Nothing God made is evil in nature!

[Offcr. Albert Martin]

As much as commercialization has been used...GOD MADE RABBITS! HE MAKES NOTHING BAD OR EVIL-IF ANYTHING IS THAT WAY, MAN MADE IT SO! (Don't try using that Issaiah verse on me again, because I know you're twisting God's word to suit your own purpose)

The family whose rabbit you brutally and cruelly slaughtered will go to the resurrection of life...LBC will go to the resurrection of torment!

If the Tribulation happens, let me know...Right now I am just ITCHING to fire my bazooka & rocket launcher at this hellhole "church" which looks more like a sports arena!

[ForGodsSake]

Re: Nothing God made is evil in nature!

The family whose rabbit you brutally and cruelly slaughtered will go to the resurrection of life.!

Ecclesiastes 3:21(KJV)
21Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?

So as you see your wrong again. Animals go to the earth once they are dead. No resurrection for them, read your Bible hypocrite. Man goes to the heavens as we all will.

If the Tribulation happens, let me know...Right now I am just ITCHING to fire my bazooka & rocket launcher at this hellhole "church" which looks more like a sports arena!

Oh how very Christian of you. As always it does not come as much of a surprise, as that is what the Catlickers teach their heathen followers to do isn't it sodomite..

[Offcr. Albert Martin]

Re: Nothing God made is evil in nature!

So as you see your wrong again. Animals go to the earth once they are dead. No resurrection for them, read your Bible hypocrite. Man goes to the heavens as we all will.

If the Tribulation happens, let me know...Right now I am just ITCHING to fire my bazooka & rocket launcher at this hellhole "church" which looks more like a sports arena!
Oh how very Christian of you. As always it does not come as much of a surprise, as that is what the Catlickers teach their heathen followers to do isn't it sodomite..

I wasn't talking about the animal, dummy. I was talking about the family you traumatized!

Are you ready for your millstone and your seadive?

[Born Again Bob]

Re: Nothing God made is evil in nature!

Dear "Officer,"

You are a Tribulation unto yourself.

Yours in Him,
bab <---- God's Lil' Deputy

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Nothing God made is evil in nature!

As much as commercialization has been used...GOD MADE RABBITS! HE MAKES NOTHING BAD OR EVIL-IF ANYTHING IS THAT WAY, MAN MADE IT SO! (Don't try using that Issaiah verse on me again, because I know you're twisting God's word to suit your own purpose)

The family whose rabbit you brutally and cruelly slaughtered will go to the resurrection of life...LBC will go to the resurrection of torment!

If the Tribulation happens, let me know...Right now I am just ITCHING to fire my bazooka & rocket launcher at this hellhole "church" which looks more like a sports arena!

What, you mean this verse?

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.--Isaiah 45:7

How can you papists possibly spin that to mean something other than what it literally says?

I guess I wonder what you define as "bad or evil." God tells us that witches are evil. Queers too. In fact every human being on earth was made by God. Are you trying to say that God is wrong when he tells us to kill witches? The catlick cult is evil, and all of you were created by God....

Your whole rant is confusing.

By the way, your threats to our church have been passed along to the DOF and that lesbian police chief you call "boss" every day when you leave to go write parking tickets.

[RevColinJamesTodd]

Re: Nothing God made is evil in nature!

As much as commercialization has been used...GOD MADE RABBITS! HE MAKES NOTHING BAD OR EVIL-IF ANYTHING IS THAT WAY, MAN MADE IT SO!

Is it just me, or does the thought of a Mary-worshipping Police Officer trying to debate scripture not seem as ridiculous as a Priest trying to arrest a bunch of crack-head car-jacking negros?

Hey, officer Albert, don't give up your day job! I bet there's a nice couple of donuts with your name on them. Where's that heretic brother of yours when you need him? Eh? How long did he get anyways for touching those boys?

Next time you visit him in Prison, give him out love.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Nothing God made is evil in nature!

As much as commercialization has been used...GOD MADE RABBITS! HE MAKES NOTHING BAD OR EVIL-IF ANYTHING IS THAT WAY, MAN MADE IT SO! (Don't try using that Issaiah verse on me again, because I know you're twisting God's word to suit your own purpose)

So Satan is what? Self created? You sound like a Gnostic Martin. Humanity is not an anti-God capable of its own acts of creation in defiance of the Will of God(r).

[Offcr. Albert Martin]

Re: Nothing God made is evil in nature!

What, you mean this verse?

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.--Isaiah 45:7

How can you papists possibly spin that to mean something other than what it literally says?

I guess I wonder what you define as "bad or evil." God tells us that witches are evil. Queers too. In fact every human being on earth was made by God. Are you trying to say that God is wrong when he tells us to kill witches? The catlick cult is evil, and all of you were created by God....

Your whole rant is confusing.

By the way, your threats to our church have been passed along to the DOF and that lesbian police chief you call "boss" every day when you leave to go write parking tickets.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Isaiah-45-7.html

Question: "Why does Isaiah 45:7 say that God created evil?"

Answer: Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” How does Isaiah 45:7 agree with the view that God did not create evil? There are two key facts that need to be considered. (1) The word translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery.” Notice how the other major English Bible translations render the word: “disaster” (NIV, HCS, “calamity” (NKJV, NAS, ESV), and “woe” (NRSV). The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil, and often does have this meaning in the Hebrew Scriptures. However, due to the diversity of possible definitions, it is unwise to assume that “I create evil” in Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence.

(2) The context of Isaiah 45:7 makes it clear that something other than “bringing moral evil into existence” is in mind. The context of Isaiah 45:7 is God rewarding Israel for obedience and punishing Israel for disobedience. God pours out salvation and blessings on those whom He favors. God brings judgment on those who continue to rebel against Him. “Woe to him who quarrels with his Master” (Isaiah 45:9). That is the person to whom God brings “evil” and “disaster.” So, rather than saying that God created “moral evil,” Isaiah 45:7 is presenting a common theme of Scripture – that God brings disaster on those who continue in hard-hearted rebellion against Him.

Or how about this:

http://www.learnthebible.org/q_a_god_creating_evil.htm

Q: In Isaiah 45:7 the scripture reads as follows: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Could you explain this scripture for me?

A: This verse has troubled many people for many centuries. However, it is not as difficult as it initially seems. Let me see if I can help you.
The problem is with God declaring that He creates evil. Though a small percentage of people teach that God is the source of all evil in the world, most people have trouble with the thought that God could be good and be the creator of evil at the same time. But the problem is in our understanding. God does create evil as He plainly states, but that evil is not what we assume it to be.
The word "evil" is used 613 times in the Bible (as a side comment, Jewish tradition teaches that the Torah has 613 mitzvahs or commandments). Although the Bible meaning of evil includes the idea of sinfulness or wickedness in many cases, it also has a broader meaning that is commonly used. In this broader meaning, evil refers to those things that are generally thought of as bad or undesirable; or as the dictionary says, "causing pain or trouble." This would include things such as wars or disease and this is the kind of evil referred to in Isaiah 45:7, not wickedness.
Of course, this answer has its own problems. Some would think God wrong to be the source of sorrow in the world. So, we must look at two things. First, I will give proofs that the "evil" of Isaiah 45:7 refers to sorrows and not to wickedness. Second, I will explain how God can righteously create sorrows.
Meaning of Evil
1. Isaiah 45:7 makes two contrasts. First, light is contrasted with darkness. That makes perfect sense because the two ideas are exact opposites. Then, the verse contrasts peace with evil - "I make peace, and create evil." If evil means wickedness, this does not make sense. Peace is not the opposite of wickedness. However, if evil refers to troubles and sorrows as those found in war, it makes perfect sense. The second pair of ideas would then be complete opposites.
2. The immediate context of the verse (Isaiah 45:5-10) also supports this definition. Two times in this passage, God states, "I am the LORD, and there is none else" (v.5, 6). God is not one god out of many. He is the only God. There is not a god of the rain, a god of the sunshine, a god of the storm, a god of the harvest, a god of war, a god of fertility, a god of death, and so on. There is one God who is responsible for all that is done. In this passage, God is not removing responsibility from man for the evil that he brings into the world, He is simply saying that there is no other god.
After the verse in question, we see this warning, "Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?" This continues the warning against thinking of God as a pagan thought of his gods. He is not to be trifled with. He can bring evil on you if you strive with Him.
3. The first reference to evil in the Bible is in Genesis 2:9 where the Bible speaks of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Notice that evil is the opposite of good. In other words, it corresponds closely to our concept of that which is bad or undesirable.
4. Lot feared to go into the mountain when he fled from Sodom, "lest some evil take me, and I die." He was not talking about iniquity catching him. He was referring to something bad happening.
5. Genesis 37:20, 33 both refer to an "evil beast." This obviously refers to a harmful beast; one that could hurt someone. The verses are not calling the beast sinful.
These examples could be continued on and on. Some references to evil do refer to that which is sinful but many do not. Evil has a much broader meaning in the Bible. Clearly, in Isaiah 45:7, the broader meaning of evil in meant.
Creator of Sorrow
This, however, does not entirely solve our problem. Is God the cause of all sorrow in the world? Do we blame Him for every tragedy we see? And, if so, how can this be right? If God is love, how can He bring such sorrows on mankind?
But please understand this: God is not the singular author of all evil--even when we understand that it refers to trouble and sorrow. Nothing in this verse states that God is the source of all evil. Man brings many evils on himself. Certainly, the declaration that God creates evil refers to His judgment of man's disobedience. That is, when man disobeys God and evil comes as the result of his disobedience, the God who is the only God is the source of that evil. He is the creator of it. Consider the following verses:
Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
Job 2:10 But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.
Psalm 75:7 But God is the judge: he putteth down one, and setteth up another.
1Samuel 2:6-7 The LORD killeth, and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up. The LORD maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up.
There are other verses, but you can understand the idea. Notice especially Deuteronomy 32:39 where the fact that God is the only God is placed alongside the idea that He kills and He makes alive. The Old Testament passages are dealing with pagan worshippers of many gods. They had a god for everything. In these verses, God is establishing the fact that everything that comes from any god comes from Him alone as the only God.
Conclusion
Therefore, God is not the author of sin as some would teach. Isaiah 45:7 is not talking about sin but about the sorrows of judgment. Sin came from the rebellion of Satan and entered the world through the disobedience of Adam and Eve. They partook of the forbidden fruit of their own free will and were not made to do so by God. Even most of the evils we see in the world today are caused by the wickedness of man.
However, when sorrows do come in judgment for sin. When peace is replaced by war because of iniquity. The evil that comes from above does not come from a different god than the God of love. There is just one God and He is absolute. The God of love is also the God of judgment. He is the balm of Gilead and He is a consuming fire. The Lord, He is the God. The Lord, He is the God. We must look to Him alone.
Till He comes,
David F. Reagan

Checkmate, heretic!

[JennyD]

Re: Nothing God made is evil in nature!

GOD MADE RABBITS! HE MAKES NOTHING BAD OR EVIL-IF ANYTHING IS THAT WAY, MAN MADE IT SO!

I see.

So, you're saying that man made Satan evil?

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Nothing God made is evil in nature!

The family whose rabbit you brutally and cruelly slaughtered will go to the resurrection of life...LBC will go to the resurrection of torment!

What, you mean if we sacrifice someone else's rabbit, the owner, regardless of accepting Christ may just accept that he's on his way to heaven?

I suppose now you'll be telling your citizens to slaughter all rabbits so their neighbours can go to heaven!

The things you catlickers believe...

[Brother Temperance]

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Right now I am just ITCHING to fire my bazooka & rocket launcher at this hellhole "church"

That's got to be one of the most convoluted metaphors for spilling your seed in an alterboy's backside I've ever seen. Where in the Holy Bible does the Lord God ever give you permission to fire your "bazooka" anywhere except your lawfully wedded wife's naughty parts, eh?

[One-eyed Jack]

Re: Nothing God made is evil in nature!

Personally, Off. Martin, you must be glad that God made tapeworms, bilharzia, bonebreak fever, syphilis, the Sahel drought which killed a million people, and of course the late Asian tsunami.

Since God made these things, and you do not consider them evil, I sincerely hope you get to enjoy at least bilharzia, syphilis, and tapeworms. Remember, God makes only good stuff! Rejoice in your illness, Off. Martin!

And how can one forget the work done in His name by Catholics like Hernan Cortez, who killed 30,000 souls at Cholula alone? Certainly a Catholic like yourself -- much in sympathy with the missionary (not to say inquisitorial) zeal of Cortez, one imagines -- must count this massacre a mighty fine work in the name of the Lord's benevolence, and not an evil.

Oh, oh, my goodness. Those pieces you quoted...I have never read such mealy-worded, wet-brained misrepresentations of the Lord. Verily, they are as the yellow crust that hides a pustulent plague-sore. A foul evidence of diseased blasphemy before the Lord! THAT, Off. Martin, is what these limping screeds amount to.

~~ OEJ

[Offcr. Albert Martin]

Re: Nothing God made is evil in nature!

Personally, Off. Martin, you must be glad that God made tapeworms, bilharzia, bonebreak fever, syphilis, the Sahel drought which killed a million people, and of course the late Asian tsunami.

Since God made these things, and you do not consider them evil, I sincerely hope you get to enjoy at least bilharzia, syphilis, and tapeworms. Remember, God makes only good stuff! Rejoice in your illness, Off. Martin!

Maybe they aren't evil...God just sent them to teach people a lesson (Don't you think so?)

And how can one forget the work done in His name by Catholics like Hernan Cortez, who killed 30,000 souls at Cholula alone? Certainly a Catholic like yourself -- much in sympathy with the missionary (not to say inquisitorial) zeal of Cortez, one imagines -- must count this massacre a mighty fine work in the name of the Lord's benevolence, and not an evil.

I thought you said the Aztecs were pagans who were going to hell anyway...

Oh, oh, my goodness. Those pieces you quoted...I have never read such mealy-worded, wet-brained misrepresentations of the Lord. Verily, they are as the yellow crust that hides a pustulent plague-sore. A foul evidence of diseased blasphemy before the Lord! THAT, Off. Martin, is what these limping screeds amount to.

~~ OEJ

I shoulda known; you take every Bible verse literally (except for the Last Supper accounts and John 6!)

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Nothing God made is evil in nature!

I thought you said the Aztecs were pagans who were going to hell anyway...

Do you agree with us on that position or don't you? If you do agree with us, why do you try and deflect attention from your beliefs onto ours? If you don't, why do you think the heathen Aztecs were Saved?

[Offcr. Albert Martin]

Re: Nothing God made is evil in nature!

Do you agree with us on that position or don't you? If you do agree with us, why do you try and deflect attention from your beliefs onto ours? If you don't, why do you think the heathen Aztecs were Saved?

I do agree with you there...But how could you say the conquests were evil if you think the Aztecs were going to hell anyway?